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Tue Mar 27, 2007 9:50 pm  |
| I had electrolysis treatments around my mouth..afterwards I noticed on the lower part of the lip area I hyperpigmented. It happened right after the treatments.What should I do to get rid of it?Retin A...triluma?Any ideas I would appreciate. |
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Tue Mar 27, 2007 11:20 pm |
Hi lucyluc,
I would keep away from the sun and wear proper sunscreen.
How long ago did you have electrolysis? |
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about to hit my 40s, retin-a user, differin, LRP |
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Wed Mar 28, 2007 5:54 am |
| it was a month ago, and believe me I do stay out of the sun. |
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Wed Mar 28, 2007 8:12 am |
I used to go for electrolysis for years and even though it did me some good, it hurt my skin as well. I have scars in that area and I think I started getting lines along my upper lip faster because of the electrolysis.  |
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Wed Mar 28, 2007 8:53 am |
| skincarefreak wrote: |
| I used to go for electrolysis for years and even though it did me some good, it hurt my skin as well. I have scars in that area and I think I started getting lines along my upper lip faster because of the electrolysis. |
I agree. I was having electrolysis for about two years (every two-three weeks), and it also gave me some scars. Just like you I think that I developed some lines along my upper lips because of this.  Otherwise, I am happy with the results. Now I only have to do it every six-eight months just for my chin area.  |
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Wed Mar 28, 2007 9:47 am |
| skincarefreak wrote: |
| I used to go for electrolysis for years and even though it did me some good, it hurt my skin as well. I have scars in that area and I think I started getting lines along my upper lip faster because of the electrolysis. |
Oh!!!!!!!
we have the same experience! |
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Wed Mar 28, 2007 9:49 am |
| Is electrolysis the same as laser treatment? |
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Wed Mar 28, 2007 9:56 am |
| no its not.Electrolysis is still the only permanent hair removal thats been proven for over 100 years. Lasers dont always work and did absolutely nothing for me.I do not like the skin discoloration I have gotten from it though and will never do it again. |
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Wed Mar 28, 2007 10:10 am |
| lucyluc wrote: |
| no its not.Electrolysis is still the only permanent hair removal thats been proven for over 100 years. Lasers dont always work and did absolutely nothing for me.I do not like the skin discoloration I have gotten from it though and will never do it again. |
Did you get the skin discoloration from laser hair removal treatment or electrolysis? |
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Wed Mar 28, 2007 10:24 am |
| it was definitely electrolysis.I had no bad side effects from laser,it just didnt do anything. I did not react well to electrolysis,I did get selling and even little * spam * pimples.a couple weeks after the treatment on my lip area I noticed a slight darkening in one area-right where the treatment was. |
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Wed Mar 28, 2007 11:47 am |
I've gotten a light brown area on my upper lip during laser hair removeal. I'm not sure what type of laser she used.
To get rid of it you need another laser (Ruby or Alexanderite perhaps,others). Some people have luck with Clear by Obagi and sunblock is a MUST. |
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Wed Mar 28, 2007 1:35 pm |
Hi,
Do you know if you had true electrolysis or whether it was in actual fact electrical epilation (still referred to technically incorrectly as electrolysis).
The difference is that true electrolysis works by producing a chemical reaction in the hair follicle that kills the hair by interfering with the blood supply(the actual chemical meaning of electrolysis happens in the follicle) where as electrical epilation an electric current produces heat in the follicle cauterizing the blood flow to the follicle. Both result in permanant loss of that hair (if it is done correctly and the hair is in the correct phase).
You can usually tell the difference because in true electrolysis you hold an electrode (rod) whereas in electrical epilation you don't. The reason I ask is the reason for your pigmentation will be different for each method.
(Phew sorry for the essay). If you can let me know which one you had I may be able to tell you why you have the pigmentation and if you will be able to remove it.
(Beauty Therapist in previous life - qualified in electrolysis/epilation  )
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Lucia, VERY fair (ghostly so!)redhead, combination skin prone to dehydration. |
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Wed Mar 28, 2007 10:34 pm |
| I had true electrolysis,I held that little rod and I had a lady that had over 20 years of experience doing this,its funny but I only hyperpigmented in one small area but regradless I will never do this again. |
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Thu Mar 29, 2007 2:08 am |
Right then I think I know what happened!
If the therapist doing the electrolysis got the polarity wrong (they have to set it correctly - which is probably why you only have it in one place - she probably realised very quickly what had happened and corrected the error!), the chemical reaction actually causes the chemicals to change colour deep within the hair follicle - in effect giving you a 'tattoo'! There's not a lot you can do about it unfortunately. Sometimes the body works and breaks down the pigment - if it is a brown mark it may fade over time (at its worst this can produce a black or very dark brown mark almost like a mole)but you may be stuck with it I'm afraid.
If you want to have further permanant hair reduction I would highly recommend Electrical Epilation - it is as successful as true electrolysis. a tiny needle is still slid into the follicle and a small current applied for a few seconds; but the risks of pigmentation are wayyyy lower (only real risk is if they apply the current too high or too long and burn the follicle but this would leave you with the sort of PIH type mark (like you get after a spot) which will fade given time -a good therapist will be happy to do a couple of hairs on your arm or leg if you are unsure so you can see what its all about.(In fact when we trained this is how we practised on each other or ourselves LOL!)
Sorry you experienced this, you should tell the therapist/salon who did it that you have had this effect, there's nothing they can do but they may look at ongoing training and prevent someone else having this - in the UK Electrical Epilation is much more popular than electroysis for just this reason.
HTH's |
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Lucia, VERY fair (ghostly so!)redhead, combination skin prone to dehydration. |
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Thu Mar 29, 2007 6:36 am |
| you would think someone with 20 years experience would know what they were doing! I am not taking any more chances no more electrolysis I will just finish off my moustache by plucking or shaving or bleaching! |
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Thu Mar 29, 2007 12:18 pm |
Well yes but I guess everyone has 'off days' when they have things on their minds, not excusing her but I sometimes you are better off with someone not long qualified as the training is fresh - when you've been doing it a while it becomes so second nature you almost can do it without thinking! (That's why I always had ongoing training to improve my skills, keep them fresh and keep me upto date with developments).
I can't say I blame you for not wanting to risk it again - all I would say is if you pluck you run the risk of damaging the hair follicle and distorting it so if you did ever change your mind and want to give some sort of epilation another go you might not be able to have it done.
Again so sorry you had a bad experience and hope the pigmentation fades eventually.
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Lucia, VERY fair (ghostly so!)redhead, combination skin prone to dehydration. |
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Mon Apr 13, 2009 12:10 pm |
Hi! Question for Lucia:
I had electrical epillation on my upper lip many years ago - the area is slightly blanched, due presumably to the destruction of capillaries in the area. Additionally, there is some minor pitting, which gives the overall affect of darkening on the upper lip. Is there anything that can be done for this? I'm afraid that using skin lightener will worsen the problem, due to the blanching in that area...
Thanks for the informative posts!
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