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Thu Nov 18, 2004 3:05 pm  |
Hi Everyone
I am really not happy with Botox (- can anyone suggest an alternative for lines between the eyebrows and for crows feet - maybe fillers? Have not got a huge amout to spend though...
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Thu Nov 18, 2004 3:11 pm |
There are several products that forum members seem to be happy with that contain Argireline: AlphaDermaCE, Relaxaline, Ester Secret. You can do a search and read reviews on each.
You mentioned a filler? Sorry, can't help on that one.
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Thu Nov 18, 2004 3:59 pm |
| fatsia wrote: |
Hi Everyone
I am really not happy with Botox (- can anyone suggest an alternative for lines between the eyebrows and for crows feet - maybe fillers? Have not got a huge amout to spend though...
Thanks
Fatsia |
Hi Fatsia,
I am really happy with Botox although I only get it for my crow's feet. As a matter of fact, I just got botoxed again today. Just curious though, what didn't you like about it?
-Cheri |
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Thu Nov 18, 2004 4:19 pm |
Hi there.
I only had botox once, for my forehead and lines between my brows. Was really disappointed - the lines between my brow improved for less than a month, and not much even then. I've really had much better success with relaxaline, which I've used for about a month. It's great stuff. |
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Thu Nov 18, 2004 5:13 pm |
| Mogwai wrote: |
Hi there.
I only had botox once, for my forehead and lines between my brows. Was really disappointed - the lines between my brow improved for less than a month, and not much even then. I've really had much better success with relaxaline, which I've used for about a month. It's great stuff. |
The argireline just never worked for me. Suppose I just wasn't using enough? I know I used it long enough, it's going on 3 months now. Maybe my crow's feet are just too deep?  |
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Fri Nov 19, 2004 3:49 am |
collagen, restalyene and hylauronic acid are all used as fillers (I'm having a can't spell day  ) |
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Fri Nov 19, 2004 7:55 am |
Hi
Thanks for your replies. I've had botox in three areas crows feet, forehead and between eyebrows.
I don't have many lines under my eyes and only one side started getting a crease when I smiled. Botox seems to have sorted that out.
On my forehead I only one half line but doctor said to have it done there and it has made no difference at all.
The area between my eyebrows was done and there has been a limited improvement.
The problem is I feel like Frankinstein. My eyebrow area feels really heavy and they have come down so I look really hard looking now. It also feels and looks like my eyes are puffy in between the eyecrease and eyebrow.
Has anyone else experienced this or could recommend a botox place in London UK?
Thanks
F
Do you know which injection site could have caused the eyebrows to droop a bit? |
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Fri Nov 19, 2004 8:11 am |
I've heard where Botox injections have caused brows to droop. 
http://www.cosmetic-surgery.gb.net/
if you search for cosmetic surgery advice uk you should get some hits beaware of any site that promotes itself. |
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Fri Nov 19, 2004 12:51 pm |
My crow's feet are actually along my upper cheekbone so maybe that is why it works so well for me. I don't have the same lines on the sides of my eyes.
If anyone decides on a filler I'd like to hear the outcome though. Does anyone know how long it usually lasts?
-Cheri |
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Fri Nov 19, 2004 3:55 pm |
| fatsia wrote: |
Hi
Thanks for your replies. I've had botox in three areas crows feet, forehead and between eyebrows.
I don't have many lines under my eyes and only one side started getting a crease when I smiled. Botox seems to have sorted that out.
On my forehead I only one half line but doctor said to have it done there and it has made no difference at all.
The area between my eyebrows was done and there has been a limited improvement.
The problem is I feel like Frankinstein. My eyebrow area feels really heavy and they have come down so I look really hard looking now. It also feels and looks like my eyes are puffy in between the eyecrease and eyebrow.
Has anyone else experienced this or could recommend a botox place in London UK?
Thanks
F
Do you know which injection site could have caused the eyebrows to droop a bit? |
Hi Fatsia....
This article from Cornell University does talk about how Botox MAY cause the face to wrinkle in other areas. Perhaps it can be of some help to you. 
A NEW WRINKLE IN THE BOTOX FAD ... BOTOX MAY CAUSE NEW WRINKLES
Advice, Expertise, and the Latest Treatment Options from Weill Cornell Dermatologists and Journal of Cosmetic Dermatology
New York, NY (January 23, 2003) -- Can use of Botox cause new facial wrinkles? Is laser hair removal safe for those with darker skin? What are some alternatives to plastic surgery? From skin safety to anti-aging procedures, dermatologists at Weill Cornell Medical Center at NewYork-Presbyterian Hospital answer these questions and more, providing expert advice on a range of cosmetic skin treatments.
For patients receiving Botox injections to remove facial wrinkles, skin adjacent to the treatment area may become more wrinkled, says Dr. David S. Becker, Clinical Assistant Professor of Dermatology at Weill Cornell Medical College and Assistant Attending Physician of Dermatology at Weill Cornell Medical Center at NewYork-Presbyterian Hospital.
"After receiving Botox, a patient may unconsciously attempt to re-create the facial expressions in the area where treatment has paralyzed their facial muscles," said Dr. Becker. "What can happen is that other, nearby muscles compensate -- this can have the effect of actually creating new wrinkles."
One of the most popular areas for treatment is the so-called scowl lines between the eyebrows. "In this case, following treatment, muscles in the upper nose, middle eyebrow, and eyelid, may try to recreate the expression of a scowl. Repetitions of this action cause new wrinkles." While the resulting new wrinkles are less prominent, the patient and their physician will need to observe carefully this development and decide whether to discontinue treatment or use Botox on additional areas.
Dr. Becker emphasizes that Botox has been proven to be safe and effective for treatment of wrinkles.
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