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Mon Jul 13, 2009 5:18 am |
Has anyone experienced this yet?? I just ordered some Lumigan and was going to give my sister some to try. She is green eyed. I have light brown eyes so I don't think I need to be concerned, but I am worried about her eyes turning brown. |
_________________ Vehicle is a 1952 scratch and dent model....olive-ish, dry skin, long curly gray hair. Staples: Tazorac, 2mm Dermaroller, Anti Aging Light Stim, Devita Sunscreens, homemade C serums, some positive affirmations and whatever else it takes! Kicking and screaming the whole way... |
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Mon Jul 13, 2009 5:36 pm |
Week 14 here on Lumigan, and still green-eyed for sure!
But be warned, even light brown eyes can get darker splodges. Saying that, as far as I am aware, all iris changes were noted with Glaucoma patients who placed drops DIRECTLY INTO the eye. The Latisse (Lumigan) studies run for FDA approval of use for growing eyelashes, showed no change in iris color (278 participants, I think) but that was only for about 16 weeks,
So, jury still out I suppose on whether any of us just using Lumigan along the lashline will get changes. But I have NONE, at 14 weeks, and know of no'one else in my internet travels and browsings who has experienced any iris change, as yet.
For what it's worth, I already have my next two Lumigan bottles stashed away for further use!
I'll certainly post LOUD and CLEAR all over the place if I get my green eyes turning brown! |
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Tue Jul 14, 2009 2:39 am |
I've been using Lumigan for almost 8 months now and my green eyes are still just as green as they always were. |
_________________ Age 45, caucasian, normal - combination skin, dedicated Renova user. |
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Tue Jul 14, 2009 5:52 am |
I was really wondering this too, because I really don't want my green eyes to change...
you know green eyes are a rarity! |
_________________ 33 yrs old - female - light brown hair with high lights - green eyes - medium/light skin tone yellow undertones : ROUTINE : (AM) Cold Water (PM) Facial Massage , OCM (1-2x Weekly) Home Facial (Monthly) Pro Facial ---- Things I am thinking about: Dermaroller, Facial Exercises, DIY Creams...JUST BOUGHT BABY Q POWER PACK -- Can't wait! |
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Tue Jul 14, 2009 3:34 pm |
I went through two tubes of the original Jan Marini product, & now dilute Lumigan in a tube of MD Lash Factor - green eyes have not changed. |
_________________ born in 1957, fair complexion |
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Tue Jul 14, 2009 4:29 pm |
My are a browny-goldy-green, so I'll be watching this with interest. I wouldn't mind thicker lashes (although mine aren't bad) but don't want to lose the mix of colors in my eyes. |
_________________ I am from LI, New York, and enjoy reading and sometimes posting on beauty boards |
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Wed Jul 15, 2009 6:31 pm |
Oh goody. Fellow green eyed monsters!
Don't ask me why, but my first husband always used to say "Green eyes spell trouble!"
Don't know what he meant by that, I'm sure...
End of hijack! |
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Wed Jul 15, 2009 9:44 pm |
It's us green/hazel eyed lot that are most susceptible to the change in iris color, because of the natural bits of brown pigment we have naturally..
The risky part is that if indeed the brown pigment starts to spread out, there is no stopping it.. Even stopping Lumigan application won't halt it. And once it happens it cannot be reversed.
The other thing is, in most cases it doesn't happen till 6 months, a year or even more into treatment.. It can also happen to some after even short term Lumigan use, and doesn't show up for a year or more..
I'm 13 months into an average 3 X per week use, with occassional 2 week breaks, and recently noticed a *teensy* bit more brownish gold speckles around my pupils.. (Barely noticable without a 10X magnifying mirror). Time will tell if it continues to spread...
Okay, curiosity just got the better of me and I took a flashlight and looked in the magnifying mirror... I have a definite change in color all around the entire pupil in both eyes.. It is a paleish gold like 'cat' eyes in a complete 1/8th " circle around each pupil.. (If anybody can tell me how to capture a closeup with a camera or webcam, I'll post the pictures.) I don't know how to do it, that the flash wouldn't make it blank.. Does a webcam use a flash..
I would also tell you guys that overall I don't think the change in my length at this point was worth the risk involved in using a serious medication, just to increase what were already fairly long/dense lashes.. And I happen to like gold/brown eyes, so that isn't an issue really.
I'll keep ya posted on increased changes, or the lack thereof.. Let me know about the picture bit, for those in the know. |
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Thu Jul 16, 2009 4:19 am |
Thanks Kassy for your post, I would love to see pics but Im not really sure how you could take a closeup of your eye, unless you do it outside and the sun is the "flash" you know.
Yeah, i dont think I will be using lumigan. |
_________________ 33 yrs old - female - light brown hair with high lights - green eyes - medium/light skin tone yellow undertones : ROUTINE : (AM) Cold Water (PM) Facial Massage , OCM (1-2x Weekly) Home Facial (Monthly) Pro Facial ---- Things I am thinking about: Dermaroller, Facial Exercises, DIY Creams...JUST BOUGHT BABY Q POWER PACK -- Can't wait! |
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Thu Jul 16, 2009 7:43 am |
Can you purchase this over the counter or do you need a prescription? I think I saw this on one of the overseas websites that sell retin-a, do you know if the formulation is the same? |
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Fri Jul 17, 2009 4:33 am |
kdd2411 wrote: |
Can you purchase this over the counter or do you need a prescription? I think I saw this on one of the overseas websites that sell retin-a, do you know if the formulation is the same? |
Yes, you can buy it without a prescription under the name of Latisse or buy the "medical" version from the overseas websites. |
_________________ Vehicle is a 1952 scratch and dent model....olive-ish, dry skin, long curly gray hair. Staples: Tazorac, 2mm Dermaroller, Anti Aging Light Stim, Devita Sunscreens, homemade C serums, some positive affirmations and whatever else it takes! Kicking and screaming the whole way... |
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Fri Jul 17, 2009 5:01 am |
Thanks Kassy for your accounting. I have green eyes as well and with even one anecdotal account such as yours, along with the other possible side effects, I don't think I'll be trying the Lumigan. |
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Sun Jul 19, 2009 5:23 pm |
Kassy_A wrote: |
It's us green/hazel eyed lot that are most susceptible to the change in iris color, because of the natural bits of brown pigment we have naturally..
The risky part is that if indeed the brown pigment starts to spread out, there is no stopping it.. Even stopping Lumigan application won't halt it. And once it happens it cannot be reversed.
The other thing is, in most cases it doesn't happen till 6 months, a year or even more into treatment.. It can also happen to some after even short term Lumigan use, and doesn't show up for a year or more..
I'm 13 months into an average 3 X per week use, with occassional 2 week breaks, and recently noticed a *teensy* bit more brownish gold speckles around my pupils.. (Barely noticable without a 10X magnifying mirror). Time will tell if it continues to spread...
Okay, curiosity just got the better of me and I took a flashlight and looked in the magnifying mirror... I have a definite change in color all around the entire pupil in both eyes.. It is a paleish gold like 'cat' eyes in a complete 1/8th " circle around each pupil.. (If anybody can tell me how to capture a closeup with a camera or webcam, I'll post the pictures.) I don't know how to do it, that the flash wouldn't make it blank.. Does a webcam use a flash..
I would also tell you guys that overall I don't think the change in my length at this point was worth the risk involved in using a serious medication, just to increase what were already fairly long/dense lashes.. And I happen to like gold/brown eyes, so that isn't an issue really.
I'll keep ya posted on increased changes, or the lack thereof.. Let me know about the picture bit, for those in the know. |
Eek! How strange. But I thought the brown splodges were supposed to be just that. Not a neat and pretty golden cat eyed effect around the pupil.
Are you quite sure about this Kassy? Have you ever looked that closely at your eye with a flashlight before? Sorry, but it's worth asking, just to be sure, as this is important. |
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Sun Jul 19, 2009 7:49 pm |
semayden wrote: |
Eek! How strange. But I thought the brown splodges were supposed to be just that. Not a neat and pretty golden cat eyed effect around the pupil.
Are you quite sure about this Kassy? Have you ever looked that closely at your eye with a flashlight before? Sorry, but it's worth asking, just to be sure, as this is important. |
"It is a paleish gold like 'cat' eyes in a complete 1/8th " circle around each pupil"..
It is most definitely directly around the pupils right now, and is a gold color ("neat and pretty" are your words)... From what I read on the subject, it *can* keep spreading outward, and is irreversible.. The spreading can happen even if Lumigan use is stopped.. I also read that most of the folks who experienced the iris color change, did so at around the 1 year mark or later.. I also read one account of someone who used the product only about 6 weeks, stopped use, and experienced color change many months later..
I've been taking pictures since my initial post, but can't get it clear/sharp.. It's not showing up as it looks in the mag mirror.. they just look like a blur..
I have a webcam, but don't know how to use it.. I don't even know if that would take a better shot.. Suggesstions anyone? |
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Sun Jul 19, 2009 8:54 pm |
Kassy (welcome back by the way when you say "spread outwards", do you mean into the sclera? |
_________________ Born in 1952. Blonde, very good skin. A few noticeable wrinkles. |
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Sun Jul 19, 2009 9:32 pm |
Antonia wrote: |
Kassy (welcome back by the way when you say "spread outwards", do you mean into the sclera? |
No, I've had no changes to the whites of the eyes..
My eye color is exactly the color of the darkest shade in grass, and now, all around the pupil, there is a quite solid circle of deep gold (like a ring around the pupil but a bit jagged edges.)
I didn't notice how prominent it was, until I looked in my 10 X magnifying mirror.
My husbands eyes are a distinct gold, quite akin to cat's eyes, and this is the same color I am seeing right now around the pupil.. Only time will tell if they darken further, or it continues to spread throughout the iris. |
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Mon Jul 20, 2009 7:12 pm |
I just don't know what to think now Kassy.
I've exchanged posts with some else on another forum who has been using this for as long as you, if not longer (I'll doublecheck tomorrow) and she insists she's had no color changes, as another green-eyer!
Myself, I already have tawny-gold flecks around my pupil (had them all my life) with the rest of the iris being a very dark foresty green. |
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Mon Jul 20, 2009 7:17 pm |
I believe Latisse says that the change to eye color occurs in 3% of users. My doctor says Lumigan has changed the eye color of half her patients who are on it. So I suspect the 3% is a very conservative estimate. I have grey-green eyes and haven't noticed a change (yet). |
_________________ Born in 1952. Blonde, very good skin. A few noticeable wrinkles. |
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Mon Jul 20, 2009 11:09 pm |
semayden wrote: |
I just don't know what to think now Kassy.
I've exchanged posts with some else on another forum who has been using this for as long as you, if not longer (I'll doublecheck tomorrow) and she insists she's had no color changes, as another green-eyer!
Myself, I already have tawny-gold flecks around my pupil (had them all my life) with the rest of the iris being a very dark foresty green. |
Only a small percent of people have adverse effects as Antonia said.. I just have crappy luck, and Murphy's law is ever present in my life..
I wish I didn't have to be the bearer of the side effect news so many were dreading, but what kind of selfish member would I be, if I had stayed silent? (Believe me it crossed my mind to mind my own business after the STOP fiasco, but integrity and caring about ya'll won out.)
I also need to tell you guys that I never averaged more than 3 times per week, always applied sparingly and allowed to thoroughly dry before going to sleep, and never let it near the outer or inner corners of my eyes.
Here's a bit of info from an older article I came across;
Side/Adverse Effects
Note: Bimatoprost may gradually change eye color by increasing the number of melanosomes (pigment granules) in the melanocytes, thereby increasing the amount of brown pigment in the iris. The long-term effects on the melanocytes, the consequences of potential injury to the melanocytes, and the possibility of deposition of pigment granules to other areas of the eye are not known. The change in iris color occurs slowly and may not be noticeable for several months to years. In addition, bimatoprost has been reported to cause increased pigmentation of the periorbital tissue (eyelid). |
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Tue Jul 21, 2009 6:35 am |
That's interesting, Kassy, as your new color is gold and not brown. I have a dark limbal ring around my iris and I love it so I'll be watching very carefully. Thanks for all the fascinating info. |
_________________ Born in 1952. Blonde, very good skin. A few noticeable wrinkles. |
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Tue Jul 21, 2009 10:37 am |
Antonia wrote: |
That's interesting, Kassy, as your new color is gold and not brown. I have a dark limbal ring around my iris and I love it so I'll be watching very carefully. Thanks for all the fascinating info. |
It's goldish for now, *if* it continues to darken, or spread further, I'll keep everybody informed.. |
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Tue Jul 21, 2009 4:59 pm |
Kassy_A wrote: |
"It is a paleish gold like 'cat' eyes in a complete 1/8th " circle around each pupil"...
I've been taking pictures since my initial post, but can't get it clear/sharp.. It's not showing up as it looks in the mag mirror.. they just look like a blur..
I have a webcam, but don't know how to use it.. I don't even know if that would take a better shot.. Suggesstions anyone? |
A good old 35mm SLR (the kind that uses film) with a telescopic lens will do it. You can either have someone else take the photo, or you can use the "remote" bulb. Or wait! If you're using a digital camera, take a picture from as close as you can get & have the eye be clear, then blow it up in PhotoShop or something, select the eye, create a new file in PS (or whatever), and paste the eye into it. You can change the size of the picture so that it's big enough for us all to see in great detail. Yeah, digital is better for that.
Do the rings show when your pupils are large? |
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Tue Jul 21, 2009 5:58 pm |
ruby2zdy wrote: |
Kassy_A wrote: |
"It is a paleish gold like 'cat' eyes in a complete 1/8th " circle around each pupil"...
I've been taking pictures since my initial post, but can't get it clear/sharp.. It's not showing up as it looks in the mag mirror.. they just look like a blur..
I have a webcam, but don't know how to use it.. I don't even know if that would take a better shot.. Suggesstions anyone? |
A good old 35mm SLR (the kind that uses film) with a telescopic lens will do it. You can either have someone else take the photo, or you can use the "remote" bulb. Or wait! If you're using a digital camera, take a picture from as close as you can get & have the eye be clear, then blow it up in PhotoShop or something, select the eye, create a new file in PS (or whatever), and paste the eye into it. You can change the size of the picture so that it's big enough for us all to see in great detail. Yeah, digital is better for that.
Do the rings show when your pupils are large? |
LOL! You know not to whom you speak... I am totally inept with everything that comes after getting the pictures downloaded..
I just have a digital camera, but I took a bunch of pictures, and not one shows the color acurately.. They all just look like hazel eyes, with no distinct colors, like I'm seeing in the mag mirror..
I have a webcam on my new laptop, but don't have a clue how to use it.. I'm hopeless! |
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Tue Jul 21, 2009 6:35 pm |
Okay, this is the best I could do, so I hope you all can see what I'm talking about.. It looks more defined in the mirror, than in the picture, and the color looks more gold than the reddish hue the picture shows..
Hope that helps.. ![Confused](images/smiles/confused.gif) |
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Tue Jul 21, 2009 7:20 pm |
I do see what you're talking about, Kassy...but damn, look at those beautiful lashes! I can't get over how full and long the lowers look. |
_________________ Nadine, age 50, live in VA; half-Asian, slight yellow tone; sensitive, dry/combo skin |
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