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Thu Sep 10, 2009 4:42 pm  |
I hope this is not addressed else where, before I shell out a fortune on yet another eye cream that I end up using on lip lines, cuticles ect. Does anyone have any suggestion for a really good eye cream. Not heavily scented or no sent at all. My eyes get easily irritated not lids my eyes tend to tear and burn.
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Thu Sep 10, 2009 6:12 pm |
Thank you SusieQ!!
Very interesting information, I guess this is one area where the ads get the best of us! It never dawned on me compare ingredients until now. I hope more people check out the link.
Thanks again.... The search is over for me. |
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Thu Sep 10, 2009 6:49 pm |
Paula isn't one of my favorite "authorities" but it is true that eye cream isn't necessary for many.
(She is totally against facial exercises)
I'll ask the question again: What is Paula's background that makes her an expert? Noone has ever been able to answer this. |
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Thu Sep 10, 2009 7:26 pm |
I know a lot of people have posted about this cream
http://perfectcomplexion.net/cart/index.php?main_page=product_info%26products_id=35
I just got it and the instructions say for an eye lift apply then hold the eyes open for 2 minutes, results are cumulative also. It's not just for eyes, but as the article says, it doesn't have to be.
I'll let you know how it goes, also will take a pic after one week of use. |
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Thu Sep 10, 2009 7:44 pm |
Lori
what is the name of the cream? When I clicked the link it said page not found.
TIA
Sis I guess I'll have to dig into my mountain of creams and do my own comparison of ingredients, want to come help?  |
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Thu Sep 10, 2009 7:54 pm |
weird, let me try the link again.
http://perfectcomplexion.net/cart/index.php?main_page=product_info%26products_id=35
If it still doesn't work, just put HA Soy in the search.
I'm to lazy to type all the ingredients from the sheet I got 
but mainly it is CQ10, poly lift, HA and vitanol.
It says to apply at bedtime, also apply to upper and lower eye, then hold open eyes for 2 mins (in the am). The picture on the website is pretty impressive, almost looks like the ones you see on the Flex Effect site.
I also got the Amazing Day and Eye Cream, full size. I have heard you should do a light peel, then apply this stuff 4 or 5 times about an hour apart once a week for an amazing lifting mask. I'll try that Saturday. |
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Thu Sep 10, 2009 7:56 pm |
From a link on her site clicked
About Paula:
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About Paula Begoun
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Paula Begoun is the creator and innovative force behind Paula's Choice skin care and cosmetics. With more than 25 years of extensive experience in the beauty industry, combined with in-depth research and study of skin and cosmetic ingredients, Paula has the knowledge and expertise to develop truly extraordinary, state-of-the-art formulations for her own line.
Paula guarantees that her products meet her exact criteria for excellent skin care, and she won't make any exaggerated claims about them. Her goal is to help women obtain and maintain the skin they've always dreamed of having.
Paula Begoun is the author and publisher of seven best-selling books on the beauty industry, including Don't Go to the Cosmetics Counter Without Me 7th Edition, Blue Eyeshadow Should Be Illegal, The Beauty Bible 2nd Edition, and Don't Go Shopping for Hair-Care Products Without Me, which have sold more than 2.5 million copies worldwide. Her work as a nationally-recognized consumer expert for the cosmetics industry has led to repeat appearances on CNN, as well as programs such as Oprah, The Today Show, 20/20, Dateline NBC, The View, and Primetime.
Well-known for her extensive knowledge of the cosmetics industry, she is a respected resource amongst professionals in a variety of fields impacting the world of skin care. Over the years Paula has been and remains a consultant for dermatologists, plastic surgeons, major cosmetics companies, and industry insiders. How Paula does her reviews...
Paula's Story
At first, my quest was personal. I had suffered with acne for many years. I visited countless dermatologists, tried hundreds of skin-care products in all price ranges, and still I had acne. How could that be? Sometimes one product worked a little, but not as well as I hoped and never for very long. And there were always side effects. Most products made my skin so red and irritated I thought it was going to fall off.
Slowly but surely, I worked my way through the confusion and began to recognize some fundamental problems with the cosmetics industry and prescription skin-care products. I realized that the cosmetics industry's information was little more than marketing mumbo jumbo. In the area of prescription skin-care products, there was little if any research or information about how irritation or even sun damage affected skin.
For years I earned my living as a makeup artist. Occasionally, I would work at department-store makeup counters. But each new job for a cosmetics line resulted in problems. Inevitably, the line representative would want me to tell a customer that a toner could close pores or a moisturizer could get rid of wrinkles. I knew that wasn't true. (If a toner could close pores, everyone who used toners would have poreless skin, and if moisturizers could get rid of wrinkles, no one would have wrinkles.)
My view on the cosmetics industry and my refusal to perpetuate falsities resulted in regular appearances on KIRO-TV, a local TV station in Seattle. I also received some national and international TV and print exposure. I left KIRO in 1986 after finishing my first book, Blue Eyeshadow Should Be Illegal. This was an exposé of the cosmetics industry revealing everything they didn't (and still don't) want you to know.
After I wrote Blue Eyeshadow, I received thousands of letters from women asking, now that they knew how crazy the cosmetics industry was, what should they buy or what did I think of this product or that? An overview of the cosmetics industry was helpful but they wanted me to name names and be specific. That's when I wrote the first edition of Don't Go to the Cosmetics Counter Without Me. Since then, the demand to know what works and what doesn't has grown, mostly because there are always new products on the market.
The Here and Now
I didn't know it at the time, but between department store lines, infomercials, multilevel direct marketing lines, home shopping network lines, drugstore cosmetics companies, and the endless parade of new product launches, my job was only beginning. Today, to keep up with the industry, I continually review new products in my newsletter, Beautypedia.com, and there have now been seven editions of Don't Go to the Cosmetics Counter Without Me; the most recent is over 1,400 pages. Combating the endless parade of useless and bizarre information can be maddening. But it's my job and, thankfully, it has been far more rewarding than I ever expected.
A Note to the Industry
Although I complain about the way cosmetics companies twist the truth, and the fact that some won't send me information, I want to give my heartfelt thanks to the companies that actually do provide me with research and interviews. I may not agree with everything they send my way, but these resources are always welcomed and appreciated more than I can say. It is my intent to provide the best information possible, and whenever I can see the cosmetics industry's point of view it makes my reporting that much more accurate. There are wonderful, exquisite products out there. I tend to harp on the negative and crazy claims, prices, and poor quality, but the major reason I do what I do is because the cosmetics world does have so many amazing products to choose from.
I am hardly anti-makeup or anti-skin care. I am in awe of how well most cosmetics work. Where would we be without the brilliant work of the cosmetic chemists who make the exquisite products we use? It is because of their astonishing skill that we have moisturizers that take care of dry skin, mascaras that build thick, lush lashes without flaking or smearing, foundations that smooth out skin tone, sunscreens that protect skin from sunburn as well as wrinkles and skin cancer, lipsticks that add elegant color and definition to the mouth, blushes that softly accent cheekbones, and on and on and on.
So thank you to all cosmetic chemists everywhere who strive to produce better products and who continue to make the beauty industry more beautiful. Please, do the best you can to combat the insane marketing departments you have to work with. Your work is rooted in science, not hyperbole.
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Thu Sep 10, 2009 8:02 pm |
Lori,
it did the same thing, I'll bet it is because I am on my stupid Iphone. Loooooong story I will try from the PC tomorrow and I bet it will work!
Thanks for posting twice that is so sweet of you!
Rona |
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Thu Sep 10, 2009 8:02 pm |
ack, that link doesn't work either, well here is more detail
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Wrinkleraser
$50.00 $25.00
Save: 50% off
New Product Promotion! This is 25.00 for 1 oz. expires September 30, 2009
Wrinkleraser extracts include a phytosteroid complex of Wild Yam and Soya for even more firming and wrinkle reduction. Guarana, a plant from Brazil that contains xanthine alkaloids (theophylline, caffeine, theobromine), recognized to tone, stimulate blood vessels and eliminate excess fatty tissue. This blend also works well on the neck as well as the face!
Includes a host of actives like Grape Extract, Cucumber, Wild Mushroom and Japanese Green Tea, one of the key ingredients is naturally-derived film forming polysaccharides, derived from tamarind seeds. The paste extracted from the fruits of the sub-tropical leguminous tree has been widely used in herbal medicine and as a foodstuff for centuries. Recognized for stimulation of skin repair, it also assists in environmental skin protection and for premature ageing of the skin. Tthe moisturizing ability of the tamarind has shown to be equal to Hyaluronic Acid in effectiveness...and is plant based.
Ingredients: Aloe Juice -Water, Dioscorea Villosa (Wild Yam) Root Extract, Glycine Soja (Soybean) Sterols, Palmitoyl Pentapeptide-3, ,Cucumis Sativus (Cucumber) Fruit Extract, Vitis Vinifera (Grape) Fruit Extract, Bladderwrack, Saccharomyces / Sea Salt Ferment, Paullinia
Cupana (Guarana) Fruit Extract, Chamomilla Matricaria Flower Extract (Chamomile), Vegetable Glycerine, Camellia Sinensis (Japanese Green Tea) Leaf Extract, Quaternized Wheat Protein, Ganoderma Lucidum (Mannentake Mushroom) Extract & Lentinus Edodes (Shiitake Mushroom) Extract & Algae Extract. |
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Thu Sep 10, 2009 8:07 pm |
That sounds like a great list of ingredients. I will definitely check it out.
You really are a doll |
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Thu Sep 10, 2009 8:16 pm |
I really like the concept of her products, but it is a strange way of doing business. She can't really tell us what to do as she says we have to find our own process that works for our skin.
I really understand that with the peels since it takes a freakin' jack hammer for my skin to peel, then other use the same technique and are peeling like crazy.
I'm wanting to really concentrate on a system and follow it and take pics, but of course I have skin care ADD. I was trying to decide between hers, Skin Actives, or Ice Elements. But I know the tca complex works so I'm going with her system for now I think. She really seems to load up on the actives.
Unfortunately, I think I have to order more stuff! At least she sent some samples, but I'm guessing I'll be ordering some of the lift products.
Here is a link to the forum, it can be hard to find, but at least she and one of her star students will answer questions there. I've never gotten an email reply back from her.
http://tca--blue-peel.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?fid=3
(hope it works  ) |
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Thu Sep 10, 2009 8:18 pm |
I posted a review on an eye cream about 2 years ago:
http://www.essentialdayspa.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=25209&highlight=
The only reason I am resurrecting it is that I still use this eye cream daily 2 years later and still give it high marks. I have yet to find an eye cream that works as well - for me anyways |
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Thu Sep 10, 2009 8:41 pm |
| True Radiance did nothing for me unfortunately. |
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Early 50s, Skin: combin.,semi-sensitive, fair with occasional breakouts, some old acne scars, freckles, under-eye wrinkles; Redhead with hazel eyes |
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Thu Sep 10, 2009 9:01 pm |
Well looks as though I am back on my quest for the HOLY GRAIL LOL. I will check out all the suggestions probably end up ordering a aaheemmmm few more to try I just wish my eyes would behave
things I have used feel great on the skin, I just wake up looking like a lovestruck teen who lost her first true love and spent the whole night crying. Wow that was one hell of a run on sentence!
Thank you all! |
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Thu Sep 10, 2009 9:08 pm |
| As far as Paula goes it seems as though she is an ex makeup artist turned author/self help skin care guru. |
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Thu Sep 10, 2009 9:27 pm |
I would take anything Paula says with a grain of salt.She definitely has some knowledge,but the few of her recommendations that I tried did not do much good either.
In terms of eye cream - I am with you, still searching. My current idea is to make the one Kassy recommends (in DYI thread). Looks good ingredient wise and many people liked it, and I trust and respect Kassy's opinion.
HTH |
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Thu Sep 10, 2009 9:53 pm |
Thanks,
I'll check out Kassey's recipe, I like DIY and I have tons of stuff in the house to work with!
Lori I am with you.... Love the description SKIN CARE ADD so true! |
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Fri Sep 11, 2009 12:03 am |
| DarkMoon wrote: |
Thanks,
I'll check out Kassey's recipe, I like DIY and I have tons of stuff in the house to work with!
Lori I am with you.... Love the description SKIN CARE ADD so true! |
I suggest you do not DIY these skincare any more. Because sometimes even if the ingrediant list is correct, the sequences and temperature of mixing them are very essential, and you do not know them all.
Skincare is so important to us, so DIY may do harm to your skin....Be careful! |
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Fri Sep 11, 2009 5:06 am |
| Darphin Stimuliskin in a very good eye product. I therefore use it only at night because a bit greasy for makeup. |
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Fri Sep 11, 2009 5:26 am |
Flyfly
I have been into DIY for years, just like cooking a gourmet treat you need the right recipe proper equipment and high quality ingredients. I always research diligently before I make my own products! If you take time and have the knack it is just as easy as baking a cake from scratch. I appreciate your concern. I have yet to have anything I make do any harm. |
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Fri Sep 11, 2009 11:04 am |
Your welcome Darkmoon! I see lots of ladies are still looking for that elusive eye cream, and adding no no products, and disappointing products on this forum. Its nice to see Paula in the "other" arena. Shes very credible. |
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Fri Sep 11, 2009 12:00 pm |
SuzieQ,
I have never tried Paula's product, so can't comment on any of it!
I am so confused LOL.....I think like so many things I have read about on this and other forums it comes down to what works for each individual, we are after all each unique creatures and what is fantastic for one is a nightmare to another, soooo my trial and error will continue hopefully I will find what works for me. It is crazy skin never really reacted to anything except one thing years ago, eyes themselves go nuts. Even if facial moisturizer is too scented my eyes go nuts yet I can use peppermint oil soap to wash face and it is fine. |
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Fri Sep 11, 2009 2:03 pm |
| I am about to take the plunge and purchase Easy-Eye Eye Tuck and the Illuminating eye care. |
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