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Tue Nov 08, 2005 5:37 am  |
OK, now I have heard everything.. Horse Oil, yes, HORSE oil for the skin.
Background: my student suddenly has experienced severe eczema around her eyes for which no cause can be found. The chemical creams from the Doc are no good and so her mother (who lives in Hokkaido) sent her a bottle of Horse Oil. Her eczma has all but gone in just one week!
Now for the rather gross bit... horse oil (which supposedly is great for everything from dry skin to scratches) is extracted from fat under the mane of a horse and then refined down to a odorless and colorless oil that has no additives. The really pure stuff is very expensive! (30ml/1oz around US$50)
Apparently it has its roots in Chinese beauty dating back hundreds of years.
So, anyone tried it?! |
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Mabsy
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Tue Nov 08, 2005 6:29 am |
Poor horsey!
I haven't heard of this, but then I wonder if other oils would help? E.g. rosehip oil or emu oil? Or if it's something specific to horse oil (still can't believe that!). |
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Tue Nov 08, 2005 6:48 am |
ya, poor horsey... I wonder if this is a "bi-product".. I mean horsemeat is widely eaten so maybe one poor horsey gives his life for 2 purposes?
Actually, the site I read said NOT to use horse oil on broken skin, open wounds or eczma.. but my student has had a lot of success with it.
To me it is definately on the ewwww side though |
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Thu Nov 10, 2005 5:15 am |
| Like you said, they probably make extract this stuff from the same horses they ground up for horsemeat in dog food, or horses destined to be processed at the glue factory.... |
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Thu Nov 10, 2005 7:51 am |
| horsemeat for dogfood? Not in Japan... here it is served raw, like sashimi. It is called "basashi". So the horses are specially bred and (this sounds sad) are a very high quality.. not some old nag. |
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Thu Nov 10, 2005 8:01 am |
| tiger_tim wrote: |
| horsemeat for dogfood? Not in Japan... here it is served raw, like sashimi. It is called "basashi". So the horses are specially bred and (this sounds sad) are a very high quality.. not some old nag. |
Raw horsemeat!?! GAG!!! :-& |
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Thu Nov 10, 2005 8:19 am |
Actually (and I am NOT a fan of red meat..) basashi is quite nice. It is sliced paper thin and you dip it in a nice sauce.
The other surprizing delicious raw meat (served the same way) is Deer. OMG bambi never tasted so good!!
What was the beauty point again? oh yea, horse OIL... apparently you can DRINK it for health too!! |
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Thu Nov 10, 2005 9:02 am |
| Now I'm all about venison but I dont' think I'll ever be able to do horse meat. Horses are actually my favorite animal as far as beauty goes. They're just so muscular and stunning I could never eat one! |
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Sun Nov 13, 2005 11:04 am |
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Sun Nov 13, 2005 11:36 am |
Isn't Silica something to do with horses???
I'm sure I've eaten horsemeat in an all inclusive in Spain   |
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Sun Nov 13, 2005 1:20 pm |
Hey Rosebud!
the plant horsetail is rich in silica I believe!
Maybe better eat that than the horse huh?
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Sun Nov 13, 2005 3:03 pm |
| This week my eyes have been a mess with what I am positive is eczema. It started on my upper eye area and has since spread to my lower lid. I have never heard of anyone having it on their eyes until I read this post. I have cortisone cream but am scared to use it around my eyes. Horse oil at least sounds safe enough to use and at this point it is definitely worth a try. |
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Sun Nov 13, 2005 4:12 pm |
| I've never heard of horseoil before. Didn't even know they made it! Ah well - You learn something new everyday |
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Mon Nov 14, 2005 12:24 pm |
Years ago, I worked in a SDM that sold a german line called Ecrinal. It was mostly nail care items, but had some hair care and lash oil as well.
All of the products used Horse's Mane Extract, which she said was what strengthened the nails and hair. She said that there are many "horse" lines of hand/nail creams, but the reason breeders get such strong nails is by the oil in the horse's mane.
She assured me the animal was not killed for the oil. |
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Sun Nov 20, 2005 6:41 am |
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herc2142
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Wed Sep 15, 2010 11:05 pm |
Can you tell me how to get some?
From who and were.
horse oil |
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Thu Sep 16, 2010 7:55 am |
oh my.....
really...
but killing any animal(or fowl, fish) is not my cup of tea..be it a horse, emu ,cow, sheep, goat or pig(which are supposed to be more highly untelligent than dogs are.)
...in the book called when Elephants Weep there is a chapter about a gorilla whose mom was hunted and killed for 'bush mea't(very popular in some african countries, even though it's illegal to kill gorillas for their meat it's still done a lot ..it's considered 'downhome' cooking like fried chicken is in the USA for example)
anyway the gorilla child was taken to a zoo/facility..i believe in the USA..where he was taught to sign as part of a well-known research program..and as soon as he learned to sign wellenough...he signed about the experienceof watching his mom be killed in front ot his eyes. |
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Thu Sep 16, 2010 8:47 am |
| I agree it's very sad to see yet I have seen Horse Oil in some cosmetics for years. It is amazing how different cultures perceive the "value" of different animals! |
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Thu Sep 16, 2010 10:06 am |
| Yes, DM. I agree. If you think about it, there is a lot of 'speciesism' going on regarding domesticated animals. It is okay to actually quite literally torture pigs and cows by exploiting them, keeping them in tiny cages, taking away their babies, drugging them, forcing them to live in fear and in the dark, all just so we can eat their meat and drink their milk. But we get outraged at the idea of horse oil, or at seeing kitties and puppies being mistreated. It's crazy how people eat cats and dogs in China, how people just see them as these kind of animals and don't think about it twice. Or maybe they do but they just think they're too delicious? Just how we are with piggies and cows. |
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Thu Sep 16, 2010 10:34 am |
EEEEK!  |
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Thu Sep 16, 2010 10:52 am |
yes, Penta, these are my sentiments, too....i think most people just don't realize the abject torture that domesticated food animals go thru as part of the 'normal' commercial food production process. (there are small farmers one can get to know thru farmer's markets, etc..who at least know/love their animals... and treat them well before butchering them for food...but it takes research and dedication to find them)
i want to tell another story about sheep...(cause in the west people eat lambs..but not, consciously anyway, horses)
my husband saw a video of a group of sheep (many mnay sheep) whose babies had been taken from them the year before....and were then returned to them...the video showed one momma sheep watching carefully as all the children returned home searching fervently for hers...and when she spotted her 'baby'..she ran toward her ...and the youngster ran toward her mom... nuzzling/kissing each other..meeting together with such love and joy |
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Thu Sep 16, 2010 12:57 pm |
I am sure jasminerosey is familiar with this book, but for anyone who at least wishes not to contribute to animal suffering, and purchase humanly treated animal products this is quite an eye opener about what goes on in large food conglomerates.
Going Vegan! (Paperback)
Linda Blair
Another that's great is
Becoming Vegan: The Complete Guide to Adopting a Healthy Plant-Based Diet (Paperback)
Brenda Davis
They are both on Amazon, I can't link because it throws the mobile in when I use my iPhone, sorry!
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Thu Sep 16, 2010 1:28 pm |
Dm, it cracks me up how you do everything from your phone! So nimble!
Jasminerosey, that is a sad/beautiful story. What never occurred to me was that cow milk comes from cows who just had a baby, which was then taking away from them - and how they suffer. They will cry and cry and cry for their baby until their voice is completely gone 
So sad.
It's pretty naive, I just thought they had bred cows that just always give milk or something I guess I just tried not to think about it too much.
One of my friends just read 'eating animals' by Jonathan Safran Foer (who also wrote 'everything is illuminated')
http://www.amazon.com/Eating-Animals-Jonathan-Safran-Foer/dp/0316069884/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1284668824&sr=8-1
I haven't read it myself but he said it's quite the eye opener. |
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Thu Sep 16, 2010 1:45 pm |
LOL Penta, Typing with 2 thumbs has become quite a habit, it's just so easy to have the Internet with you at all times! 
The poor milk cows are bred over and over to keep them producing and it actually shortens what life they have. |
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