Tua Viso and Botox
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Wed Jan 06, 2010 6:18 pm

First please forgive me if this topic has already been answered. This is my first post. I did search and see the question, however I could not find the answer.
If you get botox for crows feet and lines between eyes can you still uses the Tua Viso. Will it make is less effective?
Where can you buy Safetox in the USA?

free skin care · Wed Jan 06, 2010 7:55 pm

Ageless1 wrote:

First please forgive me if this topic has already been answered. This is my first post. I did search and see the question, however I could not find the answer.
If you get botox for crows feet and lines between eyes can you still uses the Tua Viso. Will it make is less effective?
Where can you buy Safetox in the USA?

Safetox is not available for sale in the US as far as I know at this time. Many of us that live in the US bought it from WinHealth in Scotland. I know that several are using the Safetox along with botox...it is suppose to make the botox last longer. I use the Safetox and have never had botox. The Safetox does wonders for the 11s and forehead lines Wink

Most everyone loves it! By the way welcome to EDS wave

Here is the link for the Safetox http://www.win-health.com/safetox.html

free skin care · Wed Jan 06, 2010 9:12 pm

Wowsa - Did not know that safetox helped botox last longer.

free skin care · Wed Jan 06, 2010 9:36 pm

sister sweets wrote:

Wowsa - Did not know that safetox helped botox last longer.

http://www.safetoxbeauty.com/en/treatments/i-combat-my-wrinkles-using-botulism-toxin.html
This is from the company's website explaining using botox with the Safetox and causing the botox to last longer.

free skin care · Thu Jan 07, 2010 7:59 am

Toby wrote:

sister sweets wrote:

Wowsa - Did not know that safetox helped botox last longer.

http://www.safetoxbeauty.com/en/treatments/i-combat-my-wrinkles-using-botulism-toxin.html
This is from the company's website explaining using botox with the Safetox and causing the botox to last longer.

In my experience, if I don't use safetox for two weeks after my botox and then use safetox it does help to preserve the effects of the botox.

PQ

free skin care · Thu Jan 07, 2010 8:02 am

Ageless1 wrote:

First please forgive me if this topic has already been answered. This is my first post. I did search and see the question, however I could not find the answer.
If you get botox for crows feet and lines between eyes can you still uses the Tua Viso. Will it make is less effective?
Where can you buy Safetox in the USA?

You can still use Tua Viso but I would avoid stimulating the muscle and ares you have had frozen with the botox or you will exercise the muscle and start to crease the skin again, which causes the wrinkles.

Safetox is working muscles at the back of the scalp and does not stimulate in the same way at EMS so safetox is safe to use over botox after 2 weeks.

PQ

Thu Jan 07, 2010 11:19 am

Thank you to everyone who responded and the community at large. I have read more post on this subject and have been informed quit a bit. I am grateful that I found the community.
I am still learning how to use this forum effectively. I read that Toby (I think) has a Safetox,Stop, and a Tua Visa. I saw the pictures, great pictures. I am not able to buy all of the devices at the same time. What I want to target 1st is around my mouth and jowl line. I have some lines,slack skin in this area. I think they are called marionette lines. Corners of lips are starting to turn down. What device do you all think would be the best investment for this, TV or STOP? I plan to get them both, which one 1st?

Mon Jun 14, 2010 10:25 am

Ageless1 wrote:

Thank you to everyone who responded and the community at large. I have read more post on this subject and have been informed quit a bit. I am grateful that I found the community.
I am still learning how to use this forum effectively. I read that Toby (I think) has a Safetox,Stop, and a Tua Visa. I saw the pictures, great pictures. I am not able to buy all of the devices at the same time. What I want to target 1st is around my mouth and jowl line. I have some lines,slack skin in this area. I think they are called marionette lines. Corners of lips are starting to turn down. What device do you all think would be the best investment for this, TV or STOP? I plan to get them both, which one 1st?

My botox treatments are now nearly 8-10 months apars by using safetox. I do have an issue with sagging jawline which I am addressing extremely effectively with Tua Trend (the next step up from Tua Viso). I also had a series of radio-frequency treatments (like STOP - only professionally done at the dermatologist's)and the results were nice, but I suspect that no matter how much you tighten the skin, if the muscle underneath is slack, you do not achieve maximum rejuvenation.
One of my friends is a plastic surgeon and she is the one who turned me on to electrostimulation of the muscle. As with everything else, it requires upkeep.
So, there you have it, my long-winded opinion: electrostimulation first, radio-frequency next...
Very Happy

free skin care · Mon Jun 14, 2010 10:45 am

Hi there

I have botox for my crows feet, elevensees and forehead.I use the tua trend daily on my lower cheek, jaw and neck and it works nicely.Ive had professional radio frequency also and I bought the stop to top the treatments up but it made my skin sooo dry and I think it may have got rid of some of the fat in my cheeks which is not what I wanted so I sold mine on ebay.

Mon Jun 14, 2010 11:36 am

I did not have any issues with skin dryness and I am going to be repeating the treatments this fall. Summer is out of the question since the equipment used also employees some light along with bi-polar RF. I think the STOP device is using tri-polar technology (it is manufactured by the company which introduced tri-polar tech in RF field), which makes it virtually painless, but the efficacy on facial tightening is questionable - my personal experience again - no sci evidence

free skin care · Mon Jun 14, 2010 12:57 pm

I have been using the TV for the past month approximately and I also get Botox in the frown area...between my eyebrows.. and I do all of the forehead exercises. I haven't noticed any decrease in my botox in the forehead area so that is a positive.

Wed Sep 15, 2010 1:41 pm

Dear Ageless1

You can use the Tua e-stim for areas of the face that do not have botox… simply because each use an opposite method of preventing wrinkles: e-stim exercises and firms muscles, where the botox freezes muscles.

You may want to consider strengthening the muscles in the crows feet area, and use Botox only for the ‘eleven’ area between the eyes.

The Tua Viso or the Tua Tre’nd nicely tone the circular muscle around the eye. It tighten's the contour and lifts the upper eye area. Also, with the lift to the cheek area, there will be fewer ‘drag’ lines from under the eye to cheek. The e-stimulation will help nourish the few lines you may have.

Without a doubt, our ‘Thoughtful’ member is right. The Tua Viso or the Tua Tre’nd is what you need to strengthen the muscle network that holds the facial skin in place. My biggest improvement is with the area around the mouth. It quickly turned my down-turned corners UP, reshaped and plumped my lips. I’m extremely pleased with what the Tua e-stim has done for me.

I would send you a before and after picture if I knew how. I’d like to see ‘before & after’ pictures of others that experienced improvement. How did you view Toby’s pictures?

Wed Sep 15, 2010 1:44 pm

Hello Skin Deep… can you tell me where you purchased the Tua Viso, and is it the one that has a battery recharger?

free skin care · Wed Sep 15, 2010 2:03 pm

Hi Anne,

I purchased the Tua Viso from Nanci at NCNProskincare.com

It is the battery operated one and doesn't have the charger. If you want to purchase the rechargeable one, you will have to go here

http://www.regenerationsmbs.com/ You may have to contact them to order the rechargeable one...not sure they have it listed on their website

I had some problems in the beginning with my battery operated TV but it seems to be working fine now...knock on wood!! HTH

free skin care · Sun May 08, 2011 10:47 am

Thoughtful wrote:

Hi there

I have botox for my crows feet, elevensees and forehead.I use the tua trend daily on my lower cheek, jaw and neck and it works nicely.Ive had professional radio frequency also and I bought the stop to top the treatments up but it made my skin sooo dry and I think it may have got rid of some of the fat in my cheeks which is not what I wanted so I sold mine on ebay.

Hi Thoughtful,

Do you think your radio frequency works better than the TV? I live them but can't afford to keep it up. Looking for an alternative.

Thanks.

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