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Sat Apr 09, 2011 1:45 pm |
Hi there i have recently just started using retn a o.5% .Can anyone please tell me is it best to put on alone or can i put my skincare on top or would that hinder the effects of it.I use karin herzog so not sure how to slot this in.Do i only use the retin a at night.Would love to hear your veiws kind regards |
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Sat Apr 09, 2011 3:48 pm |
marcia36 wrote: |
Hi there i have recently just started using retn a o.5% .Can anyone please tell me is it best to put on alone or can i put my skincare on top or would that hinder the effects of it.I use karin herzog so not sure how to slot this in.Do i only use the retin a at night.Would love to hear your veiws kind regards |
Admittedly a newbie to RA just a few months use, but from all the posts by many long time users the recommendation is to use it alone. If absolutley needed a moisturizer about 30 minutes after is used by some. ![Smile](images/smiles/smile.gif) |
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Sat Apr 09, 2011 4:30 pm |
I use tretinoin cream 0.05% and find I don't need anything on top. I think you need to wait 45-60 min. afterwards before adding moisturizer if you really need it. It helps to start RA gradually to avoid side effects.
Use RA at night right before bed as light hinders the effectiveness. HTH |
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Sat Apr 09, 2011 4:40 pm |
Does waiting less than an hour "dilute" the RA? |
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Sat Apr 09, 2011 5:57 pm |
gretchen wrote: |
Does waiting less than an hour "dilute" the RA? |
I am using the cream and haven't found the need to use a moisturizer afterwards. The wait time seems to vary from one expert to the next? Here is one link where the MD says applying one after is fine. With a wait.
http://www.buckinghamfacialplastics.com/forms/retin-a-instructions.html |
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Sat Apr 09, 2011 9:30 pm |
brierrose wrote: |
I use tretinoin cream 0.05% and find I don't need anything on top......
Use RA at night right before bed as light hinders the effectiveness. HTH |
Me 2!
I apply RA on my skin the minute before jumping to bed as I have read somewhere that light decrease the effectiveness of tretinoin; also, it is light sensitive too! |
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Sun Apr 10, 2011 2:18 am |
Hi thanks for your replies.do any of you put it on your neck and right under your eyes kind regards |
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Sun Apr 10, 2011 7:22 am |
I feather it across my jaw line and apply it under my eyes up to about 1/2 inch from the eyelash line. I intend to get the weakest strength (.01%) to use on my neck/decolletage sometime next year or so. |
_________________ 30-ish, sensitive fair skin, oily and acne-prone, faded freckles; tretinoin since Oct 2010 |
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Sun Apr 10, 2011 8:49 am |
marcia36 wrote: |
Hi thanks for your replies.do any of you put it on your neck and right under your eyes kind regards |
I do put it under my eyes and then top off with a little oil. Keep hoping it will help my under eye wrinkles! |
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Sun Apr 10, 2011 11:19 am |
brierrose wrote: |
I use tretinoin cream 0.05% and find I don't need anything on top. I think you need to wait 45-60 min. afterwards before adding moisturizer if you really need it. It helps to start RA gradually to avoid side effects.
Use RA at night right before bed as light hinders the effectiveness. HTH |
wow~~ actually I dont think illuminations at home have that kind light "harmful" to skin...
difference of most home-use man-made lights and sun light is that home-use lights dont have ultra-violet light wave
correct me if I'm wrong
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Sun Apr 10, 2011 12:32 pm |
Hi thanks for your replies ,wats the next strenghth up from o.o5 kind regards |
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Karmi09
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Sun Apr 10, 2011 1:21 pm |
The next step up from 0.05 is 0.1 however it is pretty strong! |
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Sun Apr 10, 2011 10:32 pm |
lady_slow wrote: |
brierrose wrote: |
I use tretinoin cream 0.05% and find I don't need anything on top. I think you need to wait 45-60 min. afterwards before adding moisturizer if you really need it. It helps to start RA gradually to avoid side effects.
Use RA at night right before bed as light hinders the effectiveness. HTH |
wow~~ actually I dont think illuminations at home have that kind light "harmful" to skin...
difference of most home-use man-made lights and sun light is that home-use lights dont have ultra-violet light wave
correct me if I'm wrong
![Very Happy](images/smiles/biggrin.gif) |
So indoor UV exposure is much less of a concern than outdoor, but it's still possible, depending on the type and direction of light bulbs.
Here's an interesting reference: http://www.smartskincare.com/skinprotection/uv-indoors.html
(Takeaway: halogen pointing at the ceiling ok; tons of unshielded fluorescent pointing at you not so good.) |
_________________ 30-ish, sensitive fair skin, oily and acne-prone, faded freckles; tretinoin since Oct 2010 |
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Mon Apr 11, 2011 12:18 pm |
lady_slow wrote: |
brierrose wrote: |
I use tretinoin cream 0.05% and find I don't need anything on top. I think you need to wait 45-60 min. afterwards before adding moisturizer if you really need it. It helps to start RA gradually to avoid side effects.
Use RA at night right before bed as light hinders the effectiveness. HTH |
wow~~ actually I dont think illuminations at home have that kind light "harmful" to skin...
difference of most home-use man-made lights and sun light is that home-use lights dont have ultra-violet light wave
correct me if I'm wrong
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Found this on Tretinoin and light degradation. Apparently Tretinoin gel microsphere remains quite stable in light.
http://www.ncbi.nim.nih.gov/pubmed/12469785 |
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Mon Apr 11, 2011 1:15 pm |
Oops, sorry that link doesn't work but if you do a search on Pubmed you can find the info if interested. HTH |
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Mon Apr 11, 2011 4:35 pm |
Maybe I'm not understanding you properly, but I thought the reason we were to avoid wearing it in sunlight is because our skin would be more vulnerable, not the product. |
_________________ Olive, normal/oily skin. Using rinse-off ocm, Vit C, Tretinoin since Nov/10, GHK since Feb/12, Niacinamide & glucosamine, alternating, & now skipping nights! Concerns include oiliness, hyperpigmentation from occasional zits, 11's & nasolabial folds. |
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Mon Apr 11, 2011 4:43 pm |
LoriA wrote: |
Maybe I'm not understanding you properly, but I thought the reason we were to avoid wearing it in sunlight is because our skin would be more vulnerable, not the product. |
That is the biggie Lori,
It causes photo-sensitivity of our skin so applying at night is recommended strongly.
For me the hour or so with a bedside lamp just is not enough light to concern myself with. ![Very Happy](images/smiles/biggrin.gif) |
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Mon Apr 11, 2011 6:28 pm |
LoriA wrote: |
Maybe I'm not understanding you properly, but I thought the reason we were to avoid wearing it in sunlight is because our skin would be more vulnerable, not the product. |
From what I understand it is for both reasons but I tend to agree with DarkMoon that a bedside lamp wouldn't be enough to worry about. I've just got in the habit of applying right before going to sleep. |
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Tue Apr 12, 2011 5:54 am |
brierrose wrote: |
Oops, sorry that link doesn't work but if you do a search on Pubmed you can find the info if interested. HTH |
Brierrose,
I could only find 2 studies. Is it one of them that you are talking about?
"Chemical stability of adapalene and tretinoin when combined with benzoyl peroxide in presence and in absence of visible light and ultraviolet radiation."
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9990414
"UVA is the major contributor to the photodegradation of tretinoin and isotretinoin: Implications for development of improved pharmaceutical formulations."
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18093761 |
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Tue Apr 12, 2011 6:30 am |
LoriA wrote: |
Maybe I'm not understanding you properly, but I thought the reason we were to avoid wearing it in sunlight is because our skin would be more vulnerable, not the product. |
Light breaks down the active ingredient in RA, and even light bulbs are supposed to break it down somewhat. |
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Tue Apr 12, 2011 12:56 pm |
Thanks so much Summer for finding those studies!
Helpful for anyone wanting clarity on UV light degrading the Tretinoin. |
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