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Mon May 30, 2011 1:52 pm  |
I know that its probably a long shot expecting results from a little green tea applied to the skin, but since I drink a mug of it every day I figured its no inconvenience and wouldn't hurt.
I used to spritz it but now after I make my loose leaf green tea (no other ingredients/additives), I just set nt strainer over a little shot glass where the last teaspoon or so collects. Then throughout the day whenever I pass it, I just dab a few drops to the backs of my hands, or my face.
No, I haven't noticed any significant results (except maybe softness), but I feel kinda good doing it! 
I've noticed though, that the light green color turns darker after several hours, and there've been times when its actually turned quite orange, like vitamin C will. For some reason this visible evidence of oxidation is really impressing me and I'm hoping its further indication that gt really does have a whole lot going on! Can someone comment? |
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Mon May 30, 2011 10:44 pm |
This nutritionist says that "the phytochemicals in tea have a half-life of about 4 hours", link here: http://answers.webmd.com/answers/1195016/Does-it-take-boiling-water-to
Which means that my green iced tea in the fridge is probably lacking any benefits after a day!
I've also heard that it's best to use warm water because boiling water will rid some of the antioxidant effect, but I have no evidence to back that up.
It is just so soothing to my skin, the only thing I find equally soothing is coffeeberry products but green tea is much cheaper! |
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Tue May 31, 2011 4:55 am |
| I think it is a matter of personal happiness and contentment. Being confidant that you are doing your best and enjoying your life is a level and measure of success many never achieve. If you drink it more and more, the taste will grow on you, you can also try to put mint in it. |
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Tue May 31, 2011 5:16 am |
I feel like green tea is best to be ingested. Yes it contains tons of antioxidants, but it may also contain some other irritating ingredients too. If you want antioxidants, I would go with making a DIY serum so you know what's going on your face. Just my thoughts  |
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Tue May 31, 2011 7:06 am |
| snowymtn wrote: |
This nutritionist says that "the phytochemicals in tea have a half-life of about 4 hours", link here: http://answers.webmd.com/answers/1195016/Does-it-take-boiling-water-to
Which means that my green iced tea in the fridge is probably lacking any benefits after a day!
I've also heard that it's best to use warm water because boiling water will rid some of the antioxidant effect, but I have no evidence to back that up.
It is just so soothing to my skin, the only thing I find equally soothing is coffeeberry products but green tea is much cheaper! |
There is a lot of information about how to properly use Green Tea on this thread, It does degrade quickly (EGC/EGCG) and should never be made with boiling water. That applies to use on skin as well as for drinking purposes.
http://www.essentialdayspa.com/forum/viewtopic.php?tid=36231 |
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Tue May 31, 2011 9:09 pm |
| Thanks Dark Moon! The threads around here are overwhelming at times. I was trying last summer for a drink a dropper of an alcohol free extract mixed with water occasionally at work, which was not expired, but I wonder how many phytonutrients it really had after opening.... |
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Tue May 31, 2011 9:16 pm |
I wonder - do green tea extracts have the same degradation?
Also, can the extracts be drank? I have a rather large bottle from The Personal Formulator. |
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Tue May 31, 2011 9:19 pm |
| snowymtn wrote: |
| Thanks Dark Moon! The threads around here are overwhelming at times. I was trying last summer for a drink a dropper of an alcohol free extract mixed with water occasionally at work, which was not expired, but I wonder how many phytonutrients it really had after opening.... |
It is quite overwhelming at times, and you are bound to find conflicting information! I know there are some extracts made in a glycerin base without alcohol, many kosher ones are made this way believe it or not. How effective they remain is questionable, however the sellers claim they retain their antioxidant properties.  |
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Tue May 31, 2011 10:26 pm |
Yes it was this one, in glycerin, meant for drinking : http://www.vitacost.com/Herb-Pharm-Dropper-Green-Tea-Glycerite-Extract
They say that the leaves are heat dried to preserve their antioxidants, but who knows?
I can attest to the fact that it helped me stay awake during night shifts! |
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Tue May 31, 2011 11:06 pm |
I believe this is about as good as you find unless you you purchase the powder extract from lotioncrafters or bulkactives ect. but reading the following I know all teas Green included have to be dried before processing.
Here is what I found on the site, I think the caffeine may help with staying awake somewhat as well?
We prepare our Green Tea glycerite from the young leaves of Camellia sinensis plants which are Certified Organically Grown on the Ambootia Tea Plantation in Darjeeling, India without the use of chemical fertilizers, pesticides or herbicides.
To assure optimal quality, the leaves are hand-harvested at their peak of potency and are then promptly heat-dried to stabilize and extract their antioxidant catechins and flavonoids. These leaves are then shipped direct to our laboratory and thoroughly extracted.
Our Green Tea is never fumigated or irradiated.
Ingredients: Vegetable glycerine, distilled water and green tea extractives. Contains 5.3 to 7.0 mg of caffeine per serving (same as 1/14 to 1/19 of a cup of coffee. |
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Thu Jun 02, 2011 2:52 pm |
Thanks everyone. I just wasn't ready for the change in color, so it got me thinking I need to re-assess my thoughts on green tea.
I've started using water just under the boiling point and steep it for less time than I used to. And I use any dregs from the remaining leaves within 4 hours! 
Oasisjc, I can't think of what irritating ingredients would be in organic green tea. Plus I was under the impression that it is a commonly used ingredient in DIY recipes. |
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Thu Sep 01, 2011 7:55 pm |
| Thanks for all of your sharing, I learn so much here. I used to put boiling water for green tea. |
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Fri Sep 02, 2011 12:58 pm |
I've never used green tea topically before. I've always believed that it's meant to be drank for one to maximize its benefits.
However I might as well try using one after reading the posts here. Also, the suggestion of using warm water rather than the cold is also helpful. thanks! |
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Fri Sep 02, 2011 2:05 pm |
I actually think my skin responds well to it! I could be wrong, but it might be what's giving it a healthy glow. I just started because it seemed like such a sweet, benign substance, and it obviously doesn't leave any residue.
Its the ONLY thing I've been using on the backs of my hands, (besides sunscreen if I'm going out & the occasional vit c treatment) and they look to be in really good shape. I think I'll start moisturizing again though, just in case. I'd stopped because they seemed to be doing fine with just the green tea, but what with the colder weather coming up, they'll need some extra protection. |
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Olive, normal/oily skin. Using rinse-off ocm, Vit C, Tretinoin since Nov/10, GHK since Feb/12, Niacinamide & glucosamine, alternating, & now skipping nights! Concerns include oiliness, hyperpigmentation from occasional zits, 11's & nasolabial folds. |
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Mon Sep 05, 2011 6:52 am |
I should really get back to applying green tea to my face! thanx for this thread and reminding me!
I used to do this regularly - one of my old facialists said it was good to keep bacteria in check - I noticed that my skin was always calm and felt smooth when I did this.
Cold green tea is also good to pat on to eyes with cotton pads to refresh them... |
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Mon Jun 04, 2012 11:57 am |
No, loaded with fluoride, suppresses thyroid- bad for you.
http://poisonfluoride.com/pfpc/html/green_tea___.html
| oasisjc wrote: |
| I feel like green tea is best to be ingested. Yes it contains tons of antioxidants, but it may also contain some other irritating ingredients too. If you want antioxidants, I would go with making a DIY serum so you know what's going on your face. Just my thoughts |
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Tue Jun 05, 2012 1:12 pm |
OMG! That is quite a shocking information!
That kind of turns my world upside down. I grew up in the area where green tea was consumed instead of water.
Thyroid problem was common in the area and they always told us it's from pollutions.
Gretchen, please tell me you don't have something similar about coffee.
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Thu Jun 07, 2012 9:10 am |
| YB wrote: |
OMG! That is quite a shocking information!
That kind of turns my world upside down. I grew up in the area where green tea was consumed instead of water.
Thyroid problem was common in the area and they always told us it's from pollutions.
Gretchen, please tell me you don't have something similar about coffee.
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Yeah I just got rid of my green tea, will never drink regularly again. Not sure I would bother to put it on my face unless it was already in a premade product.
Coffee is actually good for you, contains minerals like magnesium:
http://raypeat.com/articles/articles/caffeine.shtml |
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Thu Jun 07, 2012 9:14 am |
| YB wrote: |
OMG! That is quite a shocking information!
That kind of turns my world upside down. I grew up in the area where green tea was consumed instead of water.
Thyroid problem was common in the area and they always told us it's from pollutions.
Gretchen, please tell me you don't have something similar about coffee.
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Most places I have lived our water is loaded with fluoride, I am not giving up my green tea! |
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Thu Jun 07, 2012 9:54 am |
Fluoride destroys collagen :
http://www.litalee.com/shopexd.asp?id=175
Why is Fluoride Called “The Aging Factor”?
Yiamouyiannis’ book, Fluoride, The Aging Factor, documents the cumulative effect of tissue damage by fluoride, commonly seen as aging (collagen damage), skin rashes and acne, gastrointestinal disorders, and many other conditions, including osteoporosis. The U.S. Center for Disease Control and the Safe Water Foundation reported that 30,000 to 50,000 excess deaths occur in the United States each year in areas in which the water contains only one ppm fluoride.
The following is a partial list of conditions that show why fluoride is called the aging factor.
Fluoride destroys collagen: Fluoride breaks down collagen and interferes with its formation. Collagen comprises 30% of the body’s protein and is a major structural component of skin, ligaments, tendons, muscles, cartilage, bones and teeth. In lab tests, fluoride was fed to animals. Collagen breakdown products - the amino acids hyroxyprolene and hydroxylysine - were observed in their urine. These amino acids are found only in collagen and their levels start increasing in the urine at only one ppm fluoride. (Yiamouyiannis, Health Freedom News).
Fluoride’s destruction of collagen causes premature wrinkles, brittle bones and teeth as well as arthritic symptoms. In fact, fluoride increases the brittleness of bone so much that it shatters like glass when stressed, as in an accident. Yiamouyiannis describes severe health problems among a group of Turkish villagers in Kizilcaoern, who drank water containing 5 ppm fluoride. Their symptoms were quite dramatic because the villagers had a poor, low protein diet. Symptoms included premature aging, bone problems including arthritis, frequent fractures, and a poor birth rate, with stillbirths after 4 or 5 months of gestation.
Fluoride suppresses the immune system: Fluoride inhibits the movement of white blood cells by 70%, thereby decreasing their ability to reach their target. Yiamouyiannis cites 15 references in his pamphlet, Lifesavers Guide to Fluoridation, that document immunosuppressive effects of as little as 10% of the amount of fluoride used in fluoridated water. These include studies in Japan (1985), Russia (1987) and Scotland. Immunosuppressive effects run the gamut, from a cold that won’t go away to increased risk of cancer and other infectious diseases.
Fluoride is a potent enzyme poison: The U.S. Academy of Sciences, the World Health Organization and others have listed over 100 enzymes that are inhibited by fluoride at levels of 0.1 to 2 ppm. For every enzyme inhibited, an important metabolic process is stopped. For example, fluoride accumulating in the thyroid is one of several factors in the current epidemic of hypothyroidism. In fact, the symptoms of fluoride poison are identical to those of hypothyroidism.
http://ratherbehealthy.com/
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According to the other link I posted, green tea is very high in fluoride. The antioxidant/cancer benefit is at most, modest:
While there can be no doubt as to the beneficial effects of individual antioxidants found in green tea, the same cannot be said about green tea as a beverage. Existing studies tend to concentrate on active ingredients of green tea, such as epigallocatechin gallate (EGCG), a compound that belongs to a family of antioxidants known as polyphenols. EGCG and other polyphenols are constituents of tea - especially of green tea.
However, no studies exist investigating the effects of fluorides on these anti-oxidants. Existing studies involving other antioxidants and fluoride compounds give evidence that fluorides can adversely affect the action of antioxidants(27). Thus, while isolated antioxidants may slow down the development of some forms of cancer in experimental studies, their effect may be annihilated in their complex natural environment (as a sum of the action of all the substances present).
Several reviews of available data seem undecided in their conclusions as to the inhibition of carcinogenesis in experimental animals by tea or tea compounds. Data reviewed by Blot et al. (2 suggest "at most a modest benefit, since there is considerable international variation in tea consumption but generally small differences in cancer rates...More relevant case-control and cohort studies show mixed results."
Nah not putting green on my skin or drinking it. |
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Thu Jun 07, 2012 9:57 am |
| Guess what gretchen the air is not safe...oops better not breathe! |
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Thu Jun 07, 2012 10:48 am |
I wouldn't be unduly alarmed gretchen, before doing a little more research on your own.. (Blogs that sell stuff, aren't typically the best resource for the whole story!)
Here's her agenda/bias;
“Disclaimer: I am a chemist and an enzyme nutritionist, not a medical doctor. I provide enzymes and other dietary supplements to improve digestion and to nourish and support normal function and structure of the body."
By Lita Lee, Ph.D.
http://www.litalee.com
Lita@litalee.com
If you like what you read, please consider donating to help support my blog, even as little as $5 will help.
My book “Dentistry and how it’s damaging your health” is available here for only $2.99 |
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Thu Jun 07, 2012 1:08 pm |
Kassy,
Saw a green tea skincream advertised over at iherb.com and thought of you.
BFG |
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Thu Jun 07, 2012 4:56 pm |
So now, even drinking green tea is bad for you? Geez, everything is bad for you.
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Thu Jun 07, 2012 4:59 pm |
| RyanA wrote: |
So now, even drinking green tea is bad for you? Geez, everything is bad for you.
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LOL. Yep Ryan on some thread over a year ago Keliu made a list (tongue in cheek} about everything we must avoid! |
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