Dermarolling under eye area - yay or nay?
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Sat May 30, 2020 7:53 am

There is a lady on the owndoc site, on the before and after page who appears to have dermarolled her undereye area. This is something I have wanted to do for ages since I have syringomas which I would love to try to break up.

How do people here feel about treating the under eye area with the dermaroller - albeit at a shallow depth?

Here is a link to the lady: https://owndoc.com/dermarolling/derminator-before-and-after-photos/

Tue Jun 02, 2020 10:04 am

Super nay!

Dermarolling is a fad.

I challenge anyone that disagrees to show the community a single piece of quality research supporting the idea that creating holes in your skin somehow helps you out.

It doesn't!

Tue Jun 02, 2020 5:17 pm

I second that there derma roller is a fade. And the little pins that stick out, I have read are harmful to the skin. Your eye area is very delicate and the thinnest part of the face. If you apply to much pressure using something like that you can do more harm than good.
The safer route would be massage for the face and eye area or using a smooth Jade roller if you are into using tools on the face. There is a great book called Press Here facial workouts for beginners by Nadira Persaud. She has wonderful eye work outs in her book and incorporates acupressure too into the facial massage.

free skin care · Wed Jun 03, 2020 2:42 am

You are both wrong. Collagen induction therapy is real, with proven results. It's not a fad, it's been around for years, but only comparatively recently has there been the devices we have now, so more people are doing it. It works. I advise anyone with doubts to go to realself.com or call a dermatologist or aesthetician who does microneedling and ask them.

Editing to add links:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5556180/
https://cdn-cms.f-static.com/uploads/1949772/normal_5d40514d7cec8.pdf

Wed Jun 03, 2020 5:49 pm

@Immacolata

I actually had a conversation with my aesthetician about this very same thing, micro needling and she said it is not good for the skin. In fact in some states it is illegal. So if you go to a professional you should make sure they should even be practicing it and that they know what they are doing. But it for sure should Not be done at home, as a self treatment. Your eyes show age the quickest and you don't want to do some self treatment that can make the skin thinner or weaker. I would error on the side of caution, that is just my two cents.

free skin care · Fri Jun 05, 2020 2:27 pm

Prettycurls wrote:

@Immacolata

I actually had a conversation with my aesthetician about this very same thing, micro needling and she said it is not good for the skin. In fact in some states it is illegal. So if you go to a professional you should make sure they should even be practicing it and that they know what they are doing. But it for sure should Not be done at home, as a self treatment. Your eyes show age the quickest and you don't want to do some self treatment that can make the skin thinner or weaker. I would error on the side of caution, that is just my two cents.

Whether or not it's dangerous is a matter of opinion, I guess. My post actually says you guys are wrong when you say it doesn't work. It works. The science is there, available for anyone to research and read. Opinions vary, of course, but I'm going to go with what the medical experts say, and the very real improvements in my skin since I started. There is absolutely no reason, if you practice proper sanitization procedures, that you cannot microneedle at home.

free skin care · Mon Jun 08, 2020 4:07 am

Organicskincare55 wrote:

Super nay!

Dermarolling is a fad.

I challenge anyone that disagrees to show the community a single piece of quality research supporting the idea that creating holes in your skin somehow helps you out.

It doesn't!

Dermarolling does indeed work! If you look at the before and afters on Sara’s Page the lady in the picture that is right under the arm picture is me! https://owndoc.com/dermarolling/derminator-before-and-after-photos/

free skin care · Mon Jun 08, 2020 7:54 am

rmc7 wrote:

Organicskincare55 wrote:

Super nay!

Dermarolling is a fad.

I challenge anyone that disagrees to show the community a single piece of quality research supporting the idea that creating holes in your skin somehow helps you out.

It doesn't!

Dermarolling does indeed work! If you look at the before and afters on Sara’s Page the lady in the picture that is right under the arm picture is me! https://owndoc.com/dermarolling/derminator-before-and-after-photos/

Love those photos! Especially the mouth, you took 20 years off! I've still got the smoker's lines because I quit microneedling for a long time, over 2 years. But I'm back on it, just did my third session, and am starting to see improvement. I'm being patient and only doing every 5 or 6 weeks, sometimes 2 months.

free skin care · Tue Jun 09, 2020 3:39 am

Immacolata wrote:

rmc7 wrote:

Dermarolling does indeed work!

Love those photos! Especially the mouth, you took 20 years off! I've still got the smoker's lines because I quit microneedling for a long time, over 2 years. But I'm back on it, just did my third session, and am starting to see improvement. I'm being patient and only doing every 5 or 6 weeks, sometimes 2 months.

My pictures made me realize I too had backslid! Back in the groove for a few months now, boy o boy, those lip lines are my nightmare! I’m steadily making improvement , but I want to be my after picture again! I’m going to send Sara an updated picture in a month or 2. Check out the restoration cream with EGF , I’m loving it. SkinActives makes it. I’ve added egf to my HA for needling great inexpensive add in at SA.

free skin care · Tue Jun 09, 2020 4:32 am

rmc7 wrote:

Immacolata wrote:

rmc7 wrote:

Dermarolling does indeed work!

Love those photos! Especially the mouth, you took 20 years off! I've still got the smoker's lines because I quit microneedling for a long time, over 2 years. But I'm back on it, just did my third session, and am starting to see improvement. I'm being patient and only doing every 5 or 6 weeks, sometimes 2 months.

My pictures made me realize I too had backslid! Back in the groove for a few months now, boy o boy, those lip lines are my nightmare! I’m steadily making improvement , but I want to be my after picture again! I’m going to send Sara an updated picture in a month or 2. Check out the restoration cream with EGF , I’m loving it. SkinActives makes it. I’ve added egf to my HA for needling great inexpensive add in at SA.

I've been thinking about getting a vial of EGF to add to a serum base. You needle with it, or use it afterwards?

free skin care · Wed Jun 10, 2020 5:08 pm

So far I’ve used it after. But I mixed up some HA and put a vial in to use with my next needling.

free skin care · Fri Jun 12, 2020 10:32 pm

Hi!

I've completed 4-6 deep dermarolls/year for about 10 years. At first I did not treat my eye area. Then my facial skin was looking better and my eye skin was degrading. I chose to dermaroll the delicate skin beneath the eye, my eyebrows and skin below the brows. It has worked beautifully. Yes, I usually get blood beneath the surface of the skin that disappears in about an hour. I will always dermaroll the skin around my eyes. I take precautions to not poke myself in the eye.

You must make the decision for yourself. For me, it was one of the best additions to my treatment. I recently began DR'ing my lips as well and love that too.

Remember, it is best to do a dermaroll treatment when you are in good health so that your body may heal quickly after the treatment.

I will do a 1.5 mm on a Friday night and can go to work on Monday - while I know that I am a little swollen and peeling, no one can tell and by Tuesday, you would never know.

Take good care of yourselves!
HGG

Sat Jul 18, 2020 6:56 am

Yes, I also agree that dermarolling really does work! I’ve been doing it successfully at home for at least 12 yrs. I’ll be 59 next month and have the skin of a much younger me. It’s full, plump, clear and almost wrinkle free (with the exception of some normal crow’s feet around my eyes). I dont have cross hatching, marionette lines or naso-labial lines like many my age. With that being said, I also use copper peptides which are partly responsible. I DO roll my brow bone and corners of my eyes carefully. I believe it has resulted in a smooth brow area and my eyes are not hooded. The whole point of micro needling is twofold: better product penetration and collagen induction. The smaller needles (.25mm) accomplish the former while longer ones (.50 and up) accomplish the latter. Your skin (epidermis) is beautifully designed to keep stuff out of your body including most creams, lotions, serums etc. They sit on top and little can get through. Dermarolling creates tiny channels for your skin care to get where it needs to go to be the most effective (like a sponge). In addition, the larger needles reach the dermis to signal your body to make more collagen which it’s supposed to do when its been “injured”. I have several happy friends and family members who are now dermarolling converts. Just sayin...

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