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Sun Jul 05, 2009 4:39 pm  |
| Has anyone tried using MSM as an active in DIY formula? If so, what did you mix it with? Percentage? |
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havana8
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Mon Jul 06, 2009 5:14 am |
Thanks Havana I'll check them out.  |
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Mon Jul 06, 2009 7:24 am |
Llucy....I am one who would rather DIY on just about everything. But when it come to MSM, I found an "off the shelf" product you might want to try. It beats anything I could mix up on my own, particularly because it contains microencapsulated MSM, which as far as I know, isn't available from any of the usual DIY ingredient suppliers.
It's called MSM Cream by Source Naturals and I order it online from Vitacost and buy several jars at once. The best part...it's $4.34 for a 2 ounce jar! At that price, I can use it all over -- not just on my face.
Ingredients: Purified Water, Methylsulfonylmethane (15% MSM), Aloe Vera leaf gel, Stearic Acid, Caprylic/Capric Triglyceride (Emollient), Vegetable Oil, Lecithin Phospholipid, Glycerin, Sweet Almond Oil, Jojoba Oil, Cetearyl Alcohol & Ceteareth-20 (Emulsifiers), Phenoxyethanol (Preservative), Tocopheryl Acetate (Vitamin E), Retinyl Palmitate (Vitamin A), Ergocalciferol (Vitamin D), Panthenol (Vitamin B-5), Aminomethyl Propanol (Solubilizer), Grapefruit Seed Extract, Chamomile Flower Extract, Ginkgo Leaf Extract, Ginseng Root Extract, Xanthan Gum and Rosemary Leaf Oil. Other: Tree nuts (almond) and soy. |
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Mon Jul 06, 2009 7:33 am |
Wow Face4ward! I want that!
The ingredients sound like such a great combo. The reason I've considered DIY'ing with MSM is because I want to take it as a supplement both for skin and joints. But at that price, the cream is better and likely cheaper than anything I could come up with. Thanks so much for sharing.  |
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Mon Jul 06, 2009 8:41 am |
Llucy...you're welcome! I hope you like it. The liposomal delivery system is like that found in ultra-expensive products (Remergent). I'm considering using it as a base for the sunscreen mixture I'm dreaming up.
FYI, for internal use, I take 2 T daily of "Liquid Glucosamine Chondroitin & MSM" (Nutraceutical Sciences Institute). It has the "OptiMSM", which is thought to be superior to other MSM. |
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Mon Jul 06, 2009 10:05 am |
| Face4ward wrote: |
Llucy....I am one who would rather DIY on just about everything. But when it come to MSM, I found an "off the shelf" product you might want to try. It beats anything I could mix up on my own, particularly because it contains microencapsulated MSM, which as far as I know, isn't available from any of the usual DIY ingredient suppliers.
It's called MSM Cream by Source Naturals and I order it online from Vitacost and buy several jars at once. The best part...it's $4.34 for a 2 ounce jar! At that price, I can use it all over -- not just on my face.
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Hmm...I wonder if the topical version would help with my hyperpigmentation??  I do take 2 teaspoons a day orally in my green drink as well. |
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Mon Jul 06, 2009 10:44 am |
| Bethany, my hyperpigmentation is improved. I have one circular brown "age" spot that is breaking up, and now just has traces of brown. Only problem ... I don't know if it's because of the MSM cream, the MSM liquid, or the Retin A. |
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Mon Jul 06, 2009 11:01 am |
| Face4ward wrote: |
| Bethany, my hyperpigmentation is improved. I have one circular brown "age" spot that is breaking up, and now just has traces of brown. Only problem ... I don't know if it's because of the MSM cream, the MSM liquid, or the Retin A. |
Hmmm...very interesting!
How much (and what brand) of the MSM liquid do you take? And how long have you been using Retin A?
I'm wondering which it might be as well! |
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Mon Jul 06, 2009 1:52 pm |
For internal use, I take one Tablespoon AM and one Tablespoon PM of "Liquid Glucosamine Chondroitin & MSM" (Nutraceutical Sciences Institute). It has the "OptiMSM", which is thought to be superior to other MSM. I've been on Retin A (every-other-day) this time around for about six months, and both the liquid & topical MSM for about 4 months. I also use zinc sunblock, and I think that zinc may help fade hyperpigmentation. Lastly, I mix l-ascorbic acid powder with water every-other-day and apply immediately from head to toe. There may be a synergistic effect at work here.
My hyperpigmentation is the result of sun damage, but here's a link to a discussion about copper levels and how Vit. C, MSM and zinc work on treating melasma.
http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=345793
With regard to tretinoin, I think it's often overlooked how important it is that it be fresh and not have been exposed to heat or light. I only get my Retin A at a local pharmacy now, but really would like to start having it compounded as Tessera mentioned in another thread (she used to get the good stuff from SusanRN), but said she's on her last tube.
Same for Vit C. Heat and light are the enemy of l-ascorbic acid, which begins to degrade almost immediately after adding water. I know you already know all this, Bethany, so this is just general info for others who may be interested. Someone recently suggested putting l-ascorbic acid in the microwave for a minute to get it to dissolve. It may dissolve, but the heat will have also rendered it useless. |
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Mon Jul 06, 2009 4:19 pm |
| Thanks for posting those tips about Vit C Face4ward. I've never tried microwaving a simple C serum, but I microwaved when I've made compound serums that included C to get the other ingredients to dissolve. Duh! (Lucy smacks self's forehead). |
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Fri Jul 17, 2009 8:03 am |
Hello everyone. I posted a last year with another name announcing my excellent results i had to improve my skin with some products i was using orally. I think MSM had a lot to do with it. When I was taking all these supplements, my face was clean of dark spots, rosy and very nice texture and elasticity.. but.. something happened in my life and I stopped for months.. I am going back to my products and took a picture of my face to show later in the forum because I know whatever was what i was taking works to improve or get rid of hypergimentation.
The supplements i was taking/am taking now:
Vitamin C
Calcium,, Zinc Magnesium
Vitamin D
MSM
Probiotics
Omega 3
Something called "liv-ton" which ingredients are
Turmeric
Artichoke
Dandelion
milk thistle
magnesium
Another called "Super Vision" containing
Bilberry fruit powder extract
lutin
carrot juice powder
rutin
rice flower
I also do my vitamin c serum , wear sunblock and will start retin-a
I am very confident this will work again.. I hope
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Fri Jul 17, 2009 4:54 pm |
| margarett wrote: |
Hello everyone. I posted a last year with another name announcing my excellent results i had to improve my skin with some products i was using orally. I think MSM had a lot to do with it. When I was taking all these supplements, my face was clean of dark spots, rosy and very nice texture and elasticity.. but.. something happened in my life and I stopped for months.. I am going back to my products and took a picture of my face to show later in the forum because I know whatever was what i was taking works to improve or get rid of hypergimentation.
The supplements i was taking/am taking now:
Vitamin C
Calcium,, Zinc Magnesium
Vitamin D
MSM
Probiotics
Omega 3
Something called "liv-ton" which ingredients are
Turmeric
Artichoke
Dandelion
milk thistle
magnesium
Another called "Super Vision" containing
Bilberry fruit powder extract
lutin
carrot juice powder
rutin
rice flower
I also do my vitamin c serum , wear sunblock and will start retin-a
I am very confident this will work again.. I hope
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Do you remember how long you took the supplements before your skin had such great improvements? Can you list how much you took/take of each of them? |
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Fri Jul 17, 2009 7:45 pm |
Hi rileygirl,
I saw the results in as little as a few weeks, maybe a month.. I know, because I usually don't wait very long before I jump into the next treatment, so I saw it was working and was very excited.. and I posted it here, since here is where I got all the ideas. I can't remember my username then and where I posted and under what post. I messaged a moderator here to see if I could get that username back (because i had the same email) but she has not answered me back. I would like to know also the exact dates of when I was taking all those supplements...
So, this is what I take (most of them I buy at Cosco):
Vitamin C 500 mg x 2
Calcium,, Zinc Magnesium 500 mg (1)
Vitamin D 1000 (1)
MSM 1000 x 2 (sometimes 3)
Probiotics (Multi Strain Probiotics) x 3
Omega 3 1000 mg (1)
Something called "liv-ton" which ingredients (2)
are
Turmeric
Artichoke
Dandelion
milk thistle
magnesium
Another called "Super Vision" (1)
containing
Bilberry fruit powder extract
lutin
carrot juice powder
rutin
rice flower
and of course, lots of water |
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Fri Jul 17, 2009 8:00 pm |
| Thanks, margarett. I will definitely keep my eyes out for your results this time around! |
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Mon Aug 05, 2013 1:42 am |
Hey guys,
Sorry to revive an old thread but I thought it would be better than creating a new topic!
I've been semi-DIYing my own MSM lotion by dissolving it in water and adding to my La-Roche Posay Lipikar Baume AP (which supposedly has some Niacinamide) at around 15%.
I've used Lipikar on its own and with the MSM added and don't really have problems with either (been using them for months and months) except the Lipikar would sometimes sting my face if I had overly exfoliated or something. After adding MSM, this sting has intensified.
Has anyone else experienced this? Would you say it was the Niacinamide (I'm assuming its at low levels in Lipikar) or the MSM (the sting did get worse after adding MSM) or both? Should I be worried or continue on? Other than discomfort when first applying it, I don't think I have any other reactions to it? |
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