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Acne over 30 YOA-Karin Herzog Acne 'kits'-any users/thoughts
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Mon Feb 27, 2012 2:48 pm      Reply with quote
I'm 39 years old... can someone please tell my skin it's not 13 years old anymore??!! Mad
I've had oily skin since puberty, and bad acne through most of my school years. Now I feel like I've gone back in time to visit the Zit Fairy all over again. Since Christmas, I've had acne on my chin, my forehead, and all along my jawline, right up to where my ears meet the jawline (and boy, do those hurt!). In short, I'm completely over it.
I'm sure that the good ol' female hormones have something to do with it (my skin problems in school only cleared up some when they had me try birth control pills), but I need some help.
OTC Benzoyl Peroxide doesn't work for me anymore; it dries out the skin all around the pimple, so then I have a nasty looking zit surrounded my dry, flaky skin. Yuck! Shock
I haven't gone very far in my search yet, but I've seen that Karin Herzog has a couple of acne 'kits'. Basically, they both have the same things (cleansing milk, tonic lotion, mild scrub, except for people under 30 they recommend the 2% Oxygen cream, and for over 30 YOA they recommend the Vita-a-Kombi 2.
So, in short, has anyone used any of these products specifically for acne, and what kind of results have you had? It's a lot of $ for me to dump if I'm not sure. I know everyone has different skin and what works for one might not work for another, but if I get enough positive thoughts, I might give it a whirl.
Hey... I'm open to thoughts. If you've tried other acne products and have had a good result, let me know. Until then, I'll be looking for a nice paper bag to wear on my head. Crying or Very sad
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Fri Nov 09, 2012 8:52 pm      Reply with quote
Bumping this to see if I can get even ONE person to give me a little info.
Many views, no input. Crying or Very sad
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Hi Vmpyrchik, I am like you and have had acne my whole life. I did try KH oxygen cream mask, vita-a-Kombi 2 and the gel kind of cleanser. I was going through a bad acne period at the time and had read about people having success with this line. Unfortunately none of these products worked on my pimples and I didn't reorder. I did order the full size of these products, so I gave them plenty of time to work.

Something that I have had a lot of success with is Fresh umbrian clay bar. I use it like a mask at night on the pimple and leave it on overnight. It makes the pimple go away a lot quicker and if I catch it quick enough a lot of time it doesn't ever surface. The bar cost $38.00 but it will probably last you a whole year. Also Mad Hippie Vit C also helps my acne quite a bit also. Plus it is good for anti aging. Between these two things my face looks the best it has in years and I have had acne for over 30 years and have tried tons of products in that time period.

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Thanks for your input, Cookie! I appreciate it very much. The $ of KH is the thing that makes me want to check with other people on their experience. The cost is just too steep to experiment with. I'll look up the clay bar. Smile

CookieD wrote:
Hi Vmpyrchik, I am like you and have had acne my whole life. I did try KH oxygen cream mask, vita-a-Kombi 2 and the gel kind of cleanser. I was going through a bad acne period at the time and had read about people having success with this line. Unfortunately none of these products worked on my pimples and I didn't reorder. I did order the full size of these products, so I gave them plenty of time to work.

Something that I have had a lot of success with is Fresh umbrian clay bar. I use it like a mask at night on the pimple and leave it on overnight. It makes the pimple go away a lot quicker and if I catch it quick enough a lot of time it doesn't ever surface. The bar cost $38.00 but it will probably last you a whole year. Also Mad Hippie Vit C also helps my acne quite a bit also. Plus it is good for anti aging. Between these two things my face looks the best it has in years and I have had acne for over 30 years and have tried tons of products in that time period.
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Fri Nov 23, 2012 10:58 am      Reply with quote
I haven't tried the Herzog line, but I had acne come back to haunt me in my 30's as well. It was bad for me as a teen, fine in my 20's, cystic and scarring for the last 5 years.

I have tried many product lines, and the ones I like are DDF and True Cosmetics. I use their products by day, and Retin A at night. You can order generic retin a cheaply from all day chemist.

As an adult, I stay away from peroxide products. Instead, I use 2% salicylic acid based products by day, and use a sulfur mask to spot treat at night on top of the retin a.
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Beyond topicals...

I have also found eliminating as much sugar as possible from my diet crucial. I also religiously take cod liver oil and B-12 supplements. Over the last year I have had vitamin B-12 shots a couple times, the 3 month period after each shot were when my skin has been at its best.
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Sat Nov 24, 2012 11:51 pm      Reply with quote
I suggest to check in your area a reputable medi spa that carries Obagi line, Clenziderm is a wonderful medical skin care treatment, that treats acne, also Blue light led treatments like LumiFacial helps to kill the bacteria and the inflamation and AFA dual step peels help a lot, they are non invasive but amazing when used in series! Vitamins are very important, especially B complex for skin try to juice a lot of vegetables as they are very high in B complex, cut the dairy, sugar, carbs and chocolate, also an allergy test will determine if you have any allergies that triggers the acne, ph balance is also too acidic so that needs to be balanced, but your esthetician will determine what type of treatment you need to be on... It also might be hormonal...A clay bar I read bellow, it might help to dry the surface but remember the cause of the acne is in deep in the oil gland and if your ph balance is too acidic that is why the breakouts reoccur all the time ...you will need to go to the source of the problem and kill bacteria where it grows..the surface is just the visible effect very temporary...check your iodine level as well.. sometimes,lack of b complex can also be very low in iodine..Hope it helps.
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Sun Nov 25, 2012 2:47 am      Reply with quote
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I'm 39 years old... can someone please tell my skin it's not 13 years old anymore??!!
I've had oily skin since puberty, and bad acne through most of my school years. Now I feel like I've gone back in time to visit the Zit Fairy all over again. Since Christmas, I've had acne on my chin, my forehead, and all along my jawline, right up to where my ears meet the jawline (and boy, do those hurt!). In short, I'm completely over it.
I'm sure that the good ol' female hormones have something to do with it (my skin problems in school only cleared up some when they had me try birth control pills), but I need some help.
OTC Benzoyl Peroxide doesn't work for me anymore; it dries out the skin all around the pimple, so then I have a nasty looking zit surrounded my dry, flaky skin. Yuck!
I haven't gone very far in my search yet, but I've seen that Karin Herzog has a couple of acne 'kits'. Basically, they both have the same things (cleansing milk, tonic lotion, mild scrub, except for people under 30 they recommend the 2% Oxygen cream, and for over 30 YOA they recommend the Vita-a-Kombi 2.
So, in short, has anyone used any of these products specifically for acne, and what kind of results have you had? It's a lot of $ for me to dump if I'm not sure. I know everyone has different skin and what works for one might not work for another, but if I get enough positive thoughts, I might give it a whirl.
Hey... I'm open to thoughts. If you've tried other acne products and have had a good result, let me know. Until then, I'll be looking for a nice paper bag to wear on my head.


I know this is contraversial but why don't you just cut out the sugar, gluten, dairy and yeast, address hormonal imbalances and go on accutane rather than spending loads of money on expensive creams that may not work? This method worked big time for me. Even strangers in the street comment on how beautiful my skin is.

When I started taking the pills I got pretty bad rashes on my arms. What I think was happening was that my diet was partly causing the acne so when accutane blocked the acne my body found another way to release the toxins through the rashes on my arms (also known as candida albicans). When I cut out the dodgey food groups and addressed any vitamin/mineral deficiencies and hormonal imbalances from my diet the rashes cleared up on my arms and my skin was really good. Some people argue that grains cause acne so I would try cutting those out too if you are not getting any results.

Accutane is good for preventing facial acne but it is important to respect the fact that acne happens for a reason otherwise, as with most pharmaceuitcal drugs, you will end up treating the symptom and not the cause which is not doing your body any favours. Why not forget the accutane and just focus on diet and hormonal imbalances then you ask? Well this would most definitely be a better way of doing things and something to try first. If it does not work though you could then add in the accutane but maintain a good diet. I do understand how confidence knocking adult acne can be though and so you may just want to get rid of it immediately and then work on the cause in the process. Just some thoughts on the situation anyway. Also remember that accutane is not appropriate if you are considering having babies any time soon and you must wear sunscreen (I learnt the latter point the hard way...)
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There is a HUGE Herzog thread and many people have had great success with the line, like myself.

I started using Herzog when I was 35 and my skin had decided to break out like you wouldn't believe! I never had acne growing up. It hit me over the head and made me so sad. It was awful.

Over the years I've tried a lot of the name brand products but never had luck with them.

Until Herzog. I adore these products. I highly recommend TWO of them:

Vita-A Kombi with AHA
Essential Mask

These are the dream team IMO. I have a bunch of the other products but these are the ones I use over and over again. These are the ones that work for me.

I started with these products and after a week all my acne was gone and has stayed gone. No joke.

I can go for a few weeks without using the mask (but using the AHA Kombi) every day before my skin will start to look sad. I use the mask and it's back to good.

I've now used these products for a year and half. It is the longest I've ever used any skincare and continued to see results with it.

Now, I also have hyperpigmentation on my forehead and the sides of my face. It has kept it at bay and faded it. It's still there, it's not gone but it's not so obvious to me. I'm extremely fair skinned so it looked (to me) like somewhere smeared bronzer on my forehead. Now I don't notice it as much.

I'm so lackadaisical about my skincare that I don't know if I've had other results such as age defying wrinkle removing effects but, that wasn't my concern. Sure, I don't want to look wrinkly and old but I also don't want to spend a ton of money on products and a lot of time every day.

I should say I also have fairly dry sensitive skin and these have NEVER irritated it. I do still get dry but I just use a little oil or some other moisture to touch up the dry areas.
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