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Sun Mar 18, 2007 7:35 pm  |
I keep seeing things referenced and claimed that they have caused moles etc. to disappear or that it "reduces" them. Whatever that means! I just don't get how that's possible from taking something internally. I've read random testimonials about different things, like this person who started consuming huge amounts of greens and juices said their moles just dried up and fell off!
I've had my moles (most of them completely flat like dark freckles) for as long as I can remember. I have photos of me when I was 9 with the same ones! I just can't imagine that they are caused by some nutritional deficiency or toxins or whatever other crazy things are claimed about them. They seem to be mostly genetic. Have you ever heard of any disappearing simply by taking things internally for them? I've seen a lot of things make that claim, but I don't remember all of them. Here are 2 things that mention it, one is MSM and one is Coconut Kefir.
"MSM reduces scar tissue, moles, brown spots, black spots, skin tumors, cuts, and burns." http://www.naturodoc.com/library/medsmats/msm/MSM_background.htm
"Many people report having a prettier complexion. They experience the brown liver spots on the skin fading away and skin tags, moles, or warts drying up and disappearing." http://bodyecology.com/coconutkefir.php |
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Sun Mar 18, 2007 7:46 pm |
| I can't speak to either of these supplements,and I am a huge skeptic on such things. But, years ago, my mother started taking a bunch of supplements (one of those multi-level marketing things--don't remember exactly what, unfortunately. She'd had a mole on her cheek for years and years--about the size of a pea and slightly raised. And it vanished completely, never to return. Coincidence? Maybe, but I wish I could have asked her what in the world she was taking back then. So I *do* think it's possible; wish I had any more specific information though. |
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Sun Mar 18, 2007 7:58 pm |
I've been taking MSM for several months now and slowly the dark spots are fading. Since that's all I've changed that could possibly cause the lightening, I'm giving credit to the MSM and keeping up with it.
Ari |
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Sun Mar 18, 2007 8:22 pm |
| Arielle wrote: |
I've been taking MSM for several months now and slowly the dark spots are fading. Since that's all I've changed that could possibly cause the lightening, I'm giving credit to the MSM and keeping up with it.
Ari |
Ari, I have heard that MSM will help lighten melasma, and so I recommended my friend to get some since she got a really bad case of it under her eyes. I told her to buy the NSI brand MSM though and now I've found out it is not a good one. I feel so bad. Anyway, I will have to tell her I goofed. I just ordered pure powder MSM and I hope to get better results. I am taking it for my hair, skin (sun spots). |
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Sun Mar 18, 2007 8:22 pm |
I have read of EDS members who have taken large doses of MSM and their hyperpigmentation has decreased and disappeared. But I think moles and freckles are quite different as they are formed through a different process.
Like you I have those same flat but dark and large spots (2-4mm in size) and the ones I developed throughout childhood have lightened to half the density of the ones I get now, but most continue to enlarge slowly.
I know that you can "prevent" developing abnormal skin pigmentation through a diet rich in beta carotenes, carotenoids, lutein etc etc. There is some proof that you can develop a sort of topical SPF4 on the skin through a very good diet. But I am highly doubtful of moles which disappear, I don't think skin cells can be "reversed" in that way.  |
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Sun Mar 18, 2007 8:42 pm |
| I had a mole on my face go away. It was there for years. Only thing I changed was using C-E-Ferulic serum. |
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Sun Mar 18, 2007 9:51 pm |
| When you guys talk about a mole, you're talking about a raised bump on the skin with a brown or black color, correct? Not just a black spot that is not raised? I recently just got a black round small spot appearing on the rim of my upper lip out of the blue. I don't mind but was wondering where in the world it came from. In Thai, it's called something that means fly poop in English. I don't know the English word for it. |
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Sun Mar 18, 2007 11:26 pm |
| According to Perricone, the supplement Astaxanthin reduces hyperpigmentation. Acetyl L-Carnitine is also supposed to reduce hyperpigmentation by eliminating lipofuscin. I've been taking ALC for years as a neuroprotective and it did seem to help with some bad hyperpigmentation on my neck. You can barely see it now. |
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Mon Mar 19, 2007 4:20 am |
Vanished as it fell off or just the pigment went away?
Arielle, what kind of dark spots do you have? Sun damage or freckles? bkkgirl, some of the ones I have even though they look flat have a very slight texture like a small bump or blemish. Other ones have no texture at all and if I close my eyes and rub my fingers over the skin where they are I can't tell where they are, only a color change (dark brown, not black). Most of mine are small.
I guess since no one knows what causes moles, I've always had them, and everyone has some, it's hard to imagine what could cause the body to get rid of them. I've had a really good diet for a long time, and I so want it to be true, I just want to know what scientific mechanism could cause that to happen. Like you miranets, I'm skeptical. They are just the same ones I've always had, so they are not from the sun, but are genetic. I wanted to get laser surgery in the past, but I was too afraid of the scaring or that my face would look worse after. As a last resort I will do that eventually though, if nothing else works. Which brand of C-E-Ferulic serum do you use jakee? Which MSM is best? OptiMSM™?
Here is the other place I saw someone say something - http://www.seekeronline.org/journals/y2005/nov05.html "However, after about a month of erratic green smoothie drinking, two moles and a wart I had since early childhood peeled off my body." |
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Mon Mar 19, 2007 9:24 am |
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| Arielle, what kind of dark spots do you have? Sun damage or freckles? |
Both. The freckles I've had all my life are the first to fade away. The darker sun damage spots that are very, very recent are fading more slowly. I think that may be because the damage goes deeper and cell turnover is slower at my age. I have tons of moles but I've reconciled myself to the fact that they are here to stay since I've had them as long as I can remember.
Ari |
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Mon Mar 19, 2007 10:50 am |
| BYRG wrote: |
| Which brand of C-E-Ferulic serum do you use jakee? |
I was using Skinceuticals. Wasn't trying to remove or lighten moles, it just happened. I don't have a problem with the moles I have. Most people have em. Some have a lot. I leave them alone. Unless they're raised and really unattractive. In that case I ask the derm to remove. I get them checked annually for cancer. Then let them be. |
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Mon Mar 19, 2007 2:17 pm |
| Well, I have those tiny, dark, flat moles all over, and get new ones every year it seems. I've also noticed that they will sometimes fade or go away by themselves. Last summer, I had a new one appear on my right thumb quite suddenly (overnight). I complained about it to my roommate, then forgot about the whole thing until about two or three days later when I looked again and saw that it was no longer there at all. Strange, huh? I don't think it had anything to do with diet or supplements since it was in such a short space of time. |
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Mon Mar 19, 2007 3:11 pm |
| What dose of MSM are you using? I have many moles on my back,some skin tags, and sun spots on my face.I wouls like to try MSM. |
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Mon Mar 19, 2007 4:01 pm |
Hi
All my vitamins are NSI as I always heard they are really good.
Where n why did you hear that NSI is not good?
Thanks so much 
Blue
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| Arielle wrote: |
I've been taking MSM for several months now and slowly the dark spots are fading. Since that's all I've changed that could possibly cause the lightening, I'm giving credit to the MSM and keeping up with it.
Ari |
Ari, I have heard that MSM will help lighten melasma, and so I recommended my friend to get some since she got a really bad case of it under her eyes. I told her to buy the NSI brand MSM though and now I've found out it is not a good one. I feel so bad. Anyway, I will have to tell her I goofed. I just ordered pure powder MSM and I hope to get better results. I am taking it for my hair, skin (sun spots). |
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Mon Mar 19, 2007 10:04 pm |
| BYRG, regarding the process of mole/freckle formation - I was trying to find an article I read in the newspaper about how moles/freckles all start out as "cancerous" cells and mutate but eventually stop, scientists are studying the process to find what triggers moles to not grow out of control to see if there is some mechanism they can induce in normal cancers to put a halt to the mutation. |
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Wed Mar 21, 2007 11:10 am |
I saw a medical special once about new cancer treatment. Basically for a certain type of skin cancer, they would collect the persons own antibodies against the cancer and grow more in a lab setting. Like a vaccine. They would inject the antibodies back into that person after growing a large amount. The weird thing was after getting the injection, the persons body started attacking all of the moles on their body. So maybe they are a type of cancer, many of us have them from teen age on though.
I have 'burnt' them off myself with something like the tca cross method, but really haven't perfected it yet. |
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Sun Apr 08, 2007 2:05 pm |
I'm interested in trying to use MSM to lighten my frecklces but I noticed from http://www.naturodoc.com/library/medsmats/msm/MSM_background.htm that MSM has sulphur compound in it. I had a severe allergic reaction to a sulfur containing antibiotic so I'm afraid to ingest anything with sulphur in it.
Any recommendations for alternatives? |
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Sun Apr 08, 2007 2:53 pm |
| bkkgirl wrote: |
| When you guys talk about a mole, you're talking about a raised bump on the skin with a brown or black color, correct? Not just a black spot that is not raised? I recently just got a black round small spot appearing on the rim of my upper lip out of the blue. I don't mind but was wondering where in the world it came from. In Thai, it's called something that means fly poop in English. I don't know the English word for it. |
I would get that looked at ASAP. |
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Sun Apr 08, 2007 8:17 pm |
| heathercolorado wrote: |
| bkkgirl wrote: |
| When you guys talk about a mole, you're talking about a raised bump on the skin with a brown or black color, correct? Not just a black spot that is not raised? I recently just got a black round small spot appearing on the rim of my upper lip out of the blue. I don't mind but was wondering where in the world it came from. In Thai, it's called something that means fly poop in English. I don't know the English word for it. |
I would get that looked at ASAP. |
Cherisse, I agree that it should be checked by a derm. I would not panick though - if it is small and round - it is probably nothing bad, but to be safe you should check it with the derm.
Good luck,
Lucy. |
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Sun Apr 08, 2007 8:35 pm |
| jakee wrote: |
| I had a mole on my face go away. It was there for years. Only thing I changed was using C-E-Ferulic serum. |
maybe i should try this products! |
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Sun Apr 08, 2007 8:42 pm |
| jakee wrote: |
| I had a mole on my face go away. It was there for years. Only thing I changed was using C-E-Ferulic serum. |
Was it a big mole? How long did it take? |
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Fri Jan 13, 2012 11:13 am |
how much MSM do you take and for how long to get the brown spots to fade? has anyone experienced weight gain from using MSM?
much appreciate your experience! |
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Tue May 22, 2012 9:19 pm |
| Improved nutrition helped my sister overcome skin problems on her hands. She used to have rough patches there, but she doesn't have them anymore ever since she overhauled her diet. |
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