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Retinoic Acid and Rosa Mosqueta Seed Oil

In 1988 two researchers, Dr. Berta Pareja from the Faculty of Pharmacology and Biochemistry at U.N.M.S.M. in Lima, Peru, and Dr. Horst Kehl, from the School of Pharmacology at the University of Missouri, successfully identified the presence of Retinoic acid as the component responsible for the remarkable pharmacological properties of RMSO. Retinoic acid is a derivative of Retinol (Vitamin A) and is marked as Tretinoin.

The therapeutic effects of the topical application of Tretinoin, in the treatment of a variety of dermatologic disorders, have been well-researched and recognized for almost 30 years. The most significant results have been produced in the treatment of photo-aged skin - skin damaged by excessive exposure to sunlight. Tretinoin can produce quick and positive changes in the skin, but because it is a very strong substance, it must be applied under medical supervision.

Rosa Mosqueta Seed Oil produces all the benefits of Tretinoin, but without secondary side effects, because the Retinoic Acid contained in RMSO is in a natural state as part of a complex system of unsaturated fatty acids. Therefore, its action is controlled and slowly released by nature, eliminating the risk of overdoses.

The findings of Dr. Pareja and Dr. Kehl will help to legitimatize RMSO in the market, facilitating the promotion of this wonderful product.

As a Skin Rehydrator

The most effective way to benefit from RMSO is by using it as a skin rehydrator. As we age, oil glands diminish in size. People produce 10 times more oil at age 25 than at age 50. This condition is aggravated by climactic and environmental conditions such as dryness and air toxicity. Due to a lack of oil and depleted moisture, the skin starts to deteriorate. RMSO, with its high absorbing level, penetrates the skin almost instantly to restore this needed moisture balance.

As a Preventative Therapy

Most researchers agree that the best way to use RMSO is as a preventative therapy to retard the appearance of skin-aging signs. They recommend starting this treatment at age 20, especially for persons who burn easily or are exposed to sunlight for long periods of time. One application a day will suffice.

It is important to know that histological changes (the ones that can not be observable) precede clinical manifestation (the ones that can be observed) by at least a decade - this is why prevention is of paramount importance.

To Fight the Effects of Photo-Aging

This condition represents the best opportunity for RMSO. Aging, when related to skin, can be divided into two processes: intrinsic and photo-aging. Intrinsic refers to endogenous and genetic factors which are almost impossible to halt or to reverse. Photo-aging refers to the multiple adverse effects on all parts of the skin induced by excessive exposure to sun radiation. This condition is also called Dermotoheliosis and can be reversible. Light skinned persons who tan poorly are at the greatest risk for photo-damage. The signs of photo-aging may appear as early as the third of fourth decade of life in persons with repeated sun exposure.

Photo-aging is characterized by wrinkled, yellowed, lax, rough, leathery, inelastic, and/or coarse skin with spotted hyper or hypopigmentation.

RMSO is very effective in halting and even reversing the effects produced by the sun radiation on the skin. Significant changes should be noticed after the third week of continuous application. In extreme cases of photo-aging, a more generous application should be used at night and during the day. It may take four months or more for the total disappearance of superficial wrinkles and significant dissipation of hyperpigmented spots.

To Dissipate Surgical and Traumatic Dermal Scars

When used on surgical scars, an oil with a high concentration should be applied after the stitches have been removed and the wound is totally healed. After washing the area, apply the oil on dry skin with a soft massage. The effects should be noticeable after three to four months; skin should recover its elasticity and the colour of the skin should improve significantly.

With old, traumatic dermal scars, it will take longer to see any effects and, again, it will depend on the age of the scar, its location and the age of the person. Two or more generous daily applications of oil are recommended, depending on the location of the scars and the age of the subject.

Note: this article is only for informational purposes. Any claims can not be associated with the cold-pressed oil that we sell. Read the article and decide for yourself after looking at our oil's specifications.

What Kind of Oil is the Consumer Buying?

When purchasing Rosa Mosqueta always look for a 100% pure oil. Blended oils do not have the high concentration of active ingredients. Rosa Mosqueta is essentially Rose Hip oil, the difference being that Rosa Mosqueta oil is certified to come from Chile. The domestic variety of Rose Hip oil does not have the high content of essential fatty acids which makes Rosa Mosqueta so effective.

This information is offered for its educational value only and should not be used in the diagnose, treatment, or prevention of disease. Any attempt to diagnose and treat illness should come under the direction of your health care practitioner.

http://goodhealthblog.com/Product_Literature/rosa-mosqueta.htm


In light of recent claims by EDS members that it reduces the appearance of spider veins, and in light of this claim that it has retinoic acid in it, I'm devoting tomorrow to finding this!

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Thu Jan 18, 2007 1:24 pm      Reply with quote
I very much loved the idea (approx. 6 months ago) of using pure & natural Rosa Mosqueta oil. Unfortuntely i got bad break out of it.
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Thu Jan 18, 2007 1:26 pm      Reply with quote
Avalange - PLEASE let me know if this helps your broken caps. I would love to not have to turn to a laser for mine. I'm such a wimp when it comes to pain, especially around my nose!
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Avalange, I haven't been using it long enough to know exactly what it does and how long it takes but it has already made my face silky.

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Thu Jan 18, 2007 2:22 pm      Reply with quote
Avalange,

I got my Rosehip seed oil from SAS. I paid $9.50 for 4 ozs.

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I am a fan of rosehip oil, it doesn't cause me breakouts and is one of the cheapest and most effective moisturisers. The secret to applying it is to keep moistening the skin with either water or rosewater mist and then it sinks in very quickly with no residue at all.

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I am a fan of rosehip oil, it doesn't cause me breakouts and is one of the cheapest and most effective moisturisers. The secret to applying it is to keep moistening the skin with either water or rosewater mist and then it sinks in very quickly with no residue at all.


Thanks for the tip bushy, where do you get yours?

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Thu Jan 18, 2007 3:01 pm      Reply with quote
I've got a second degree burn recently from cooking oil and Kosmea rosehip oil has helped a lot with my scarring. I also use it as a body moisturizer and it has helped lessen the severity of my eczema.
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Thu Jan 18, 2007 5:37 pm      Reply with quote
I have always used Kosmea but any brand would be ok so long as the company uses the correct extraction methods.

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Fri Jan 19, 2007 7:19 am      Reply with quote
Where is SAS? I was about to buy rosehip oil from saffron rouge yesterday for 23 dollar.

Also, is there any difference between rosehip oil vs rosehip seed oil? which one is more effective to get rid of blood clogged vein?
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Where is SAS?

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hmm, I just started using Rosehip Seed Cleanser from SkinCareCentral.

This is the description and ingredients:

A gentle but powerful cleanser enriched with a combination of rose hip seed, olive oil, seaweed, and essential oils provide a complete spectrum of skin nourishment and protection every time you cleanse. Leaves your skin glowing and renewed. Great for normal to dry skin.

Ingredients: Distilled Water, Olive Oil Castile, Vegetable Glycerin, Rose Hip Seed Oil, Essential Oils, Seaweed Extract.

It's a gel that is not oily at all. Dunno - using my kukui nut oil cleanser or my castor oil/sea kelp bioferment FEELS more gentle (i.e., non sudsing and oily) but re-reading the ingredients - it's amazing how well it acts like a cleanser but is gentle.

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Rjez wrote:
hmm, I just started using Rosehip Seed Cleanser from SkinCareCentral.

This is the description and ingredients:

A gentle but powerful cleanser enriched with a combination of rose hip seed, olive oil, seaweed, and essential oils provide a complete spectrum of skin nourishment and protection every time you cleanse. Leaves your skin glowing and renewed. Great for normal to dry skin.

Ingredients: Distilled Water, Olive Oil Castile, Vegetable Glycerin, Rose Hip Seed Oil, Essential Oils, Seaweed Extract.

It's a gel that is not oily at all. Dunno - using my kukui nut oil cleanser or my castor oil/sea kelp bioferment FEELS more gentle (i.e., non sudsing and oily) but re-reading the ingredients - it's amazing how well it acts like a cleanser but is gentle.


Actually, Rjez,
Olive oil castile is some of the strongest stuff around! I use castile soap for some household cleaning, and I usually wash my body with it, but diluted some. I'm sure it is gentle all the same; castille soap gets things squeaky clean but never really dries you out. ... unless you are my complaining boyfriend Laughing

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avalange wrote:
Rjez wrote:
hmm, I just started using Rosehip Seed Cleanser from SkinCareCentral.

This is the description and ingredients:

A gentle but powerful cleanser enriched with a combination of rose hip seed, olive oil, seaweed, and essential oils provide a complete spectrum of skin nourishment and protection every time you cleanse. Leaves your skin glowing and renewed. Great for normal to dry skin.

Ingredients: Distilled Water, Olive Oil Castile, Vegetable Glycerin, Rose Hip Seed Oil, Essential Oils, Seaweed Extract.

It's a gel that is not oily at all. Dunno - using my kukui nut oil cleanser or my castor oil/sea kelp bioferment FEELS more gentle (i.e., non sudsing and oily) but re-reading the ingredients - it's amazing how well it acts like a cleanser but is gentle.


Actually, Rjez,
Olive oil castile is some of the strongest stuff around! I use castile soap for some household cleaning, and I usually wash my body with it, but diluted some. I'm sure it is gentle all the same; castille soap gets things squeaky clean but never really dries you out. ... unless you are my complaining boyfriend Laughing

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holy hand grenades Batman, really? Would you use this? Maybe I should mix with other oils?

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Thanks for posting that. I have been raving for ages about the effectiveness of Rosehip Oil and have experienced this first hand as well. This really is my most favourite carrier oil and I urge you all to try some.

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Fri Jan 19, 2007 6:18 pm      Reply with quote
i don't know if i am weird or not but i really cannot see a difference in my skin no matter what kind of oil i try. i have tried jojoba and camellia. seems the same to me.

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Rjez wrote:
avalange wrote:
Rjez wrote:
hmm, I just started using Rosehip Seed Cleanser from SkinCareCentral.

This is the description and ingredients:

A gentle but powerful cleanser enriched with a combination of rose hip seed, olive oil, seaweed, and essential oils provide a complete spectrum of skin nourishment and protection every time you cleanse. Leaves your skin glowing and renewed. Great for normal to dry skin.

Ingredients: Distilled Water, Olive Oil Castile, Vegetable Glycerin, Rose Hip Seed Oil, Essential Oils, Seaweed Extract.

It's a gel that is not oily at all. Dunno - using my kukui nut oil cleanser or my castor oil/sea kelp bioferment FEELS more gentle (i.e., non sudsing and oily) but re-reading the ingredients - it's amazing how well it acts like a cleanser but is gentle.


Actually, Rjez,
Olive oil castile is some of the strongest stuff around! I use castile soap for some household cleaning, and I usually wash my body with it, but diluted some. I'm sure it is gentle all the same; castille soap gets things squeaky clean but never really dries you out. ... unless you are my complaining boyfriend Laughing

--avalange

holy hand grenades Batman, really? Would you use this? Maybe I should mix with other oils?


Rjez,

Maybe be castile is balanced by the oils? I used to think that it was gentle and just rather "effective," like you--and I posted about it's non detergent qualities, etc... Someone in the know told me that lye is indeed used to make castile soap, like any other soap. But the lye does not remain in soap; there is a chemical change to both ingredients,and voila! wonderful castile soap. When I say I use it for household things, I'm just hate using cleaning products with chemicals and since it is so effective, I like using it to clean. I was not trying to say that it is a substitute for Mr. Clean or anything! I wouldn't worry unless you use it consistently and it tends to dry you out. Kiehl's makes a castile soap for the body, but I use Dr. Bronner's lavender castile. I don't think it will destroy your acid mantle or anything, I just think it's one of the stronger natural cleansing agents out there. I hope that clarifies things a bit!

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Sat Jan 20, 2007 3:21 am      Reply with quote
Rjez wrote:
hmm, I just started using Rosehip Seed Cleanser from SkinCareCentral.

This is the description and ingredients:

A gentle but powerful cleanser enriched with a combination of rose hip seed, olive oil, seaweed, and essential oils provide a complete spectrum of skin nourishment and protection every time you cleanse. Leaves your skin glowing and renewed. Great for normal to dry skin.

But for me this is one of the most useless cleansers ever. Leaves my nose oily and my cheeks dry and doesn't clean anything off. Try a sample first. Twice I've bought into it because of raves with two years between and both times it's let me down.
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i don't know if i am weird or not but i really cannot see a difference in my skin no matter what kind of oil i try. i have tried jojoba and camellia. seems the same to me.

I sort of agree. I think the power of natural oils is overstated. They seem to absorb better or worse according to your own skin's pecularities, but other than that they seem just to be good moisturisers.
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Molly wrote:
skincareaddicted wrote:
i don't know if i am weird or not but i really cannot see a difference in my skin no matter what kind of oil i try. i have tried jojoba and camellia. seems the same to me.

I sort of agree. I think the power of natural oils is overstated. They seem to absorb better or worse according to your own skin's pecularities, but other than that they seem just to be good moisturisers.


Roshehip Oil has very different properties than both Jojoba and Camellia so you will obvioulsy not get the same results. The best thing to do would be to contact a professional aromatherapist who can analyze your skin and tell you which oil would be most suitable for the effects you are after. Or if you are well versed in both aromatherapy and skin care then you can help yourself find the best oil for your skin's needs. Most people tend to use an oil that they heard works great for someone else even though they have a different skin type. Although some oils work well on everyone's skin, results will vary, but if you find the right match and/or blend, you will see that natural oils can actually do wonders for everyone and need to be talked about and explained more so that everyone can understand the benefits. It's all about educating ourselves and making informed choices and decisions.

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Sat Jan 20, 2007 9:54 am      Reply with quote
Thanks everyone!

Avalange - Great explanation, I feel much better Very Happy

Molly - I actually have a bottle but it's working nicely for me.

re: oils - I have jojoba, almond, camilia, castor and emu. Must say I do notice a difference, but mostly in the consistency. I love my macadamia nut/kukui nut oil cleanser.

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Rjez wrote:
I love my macadamia nut/kukui nut oil cleanser.


May i ask, what cleanser is this?

Um, I tried Rose Hip Oil last year (prior to discovering this forum), so this was my first foray into oils for the face.

I bought pure stuff from a health food store after i heard that Sarah jessica parker used it on her eyes (i know,i know, am i really one of those people that runs out to get something when they hear a celeb uses it?), and i liked how it was natural, and an oil, and my cracked skin from flying was in need of something.

I did find it to be quite thick, and despite my efforts, it did not sink in, and sat on top of my skin, and ended up all over my pillow case. From there i tried squalane oil, from olives, which i am extremely happy with, sinks in right away, can put other products on top and makes them in turn work more effectively.

I have never tried Jojoba on its own, or castor oil. I am hearing a lot about castor oil from this forum though. People are putting it on their eyelashes. Hm, am i missing something? apparently it works.

But yes, i do believe that all the above claims on rose hip oil are true, and i would use it on burns, scars, etc, and i wonder if it does fade brown spots, etc. I just wish it sank into my skin more.
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My mom likes rose hip oil and she says it has helped with some of her fine lines. She already has wonderful skin, but since using this I do notice a bit more glow to her complexion. The only problem is that she says the oil gets in her eyes and makes them water, even though she avoids the eye area.

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Hi

I just bought some Rosehip seed oil from the Organic Pharmacy because of the posts on here about it helping broken caps, so I'll let you know how I get on.

I also popped a broken cap next to my nose after someone else said they had done so and it just made it worse so I do NOT recommend that.
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Rjez wrote:
I love my macadamia nut/kukui nut oil cleanser.


May i ask, what cleanser is this? Smile


It's from "Oils of Aloha" in Hawai'i. First found out about the company decades ago when my uncle helped a stranded motorist ... the founder of the company. He gave my uncle free samples.

https://www.oilsofaloha.com/cart.php?m=product_detail&p=36

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