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Uschi
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Joined: 24 Sep 2011
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Sat Sep 24, 2011 11:23 pm |
Hello everyone I recently graduated from school (esthetics) and have to say that I never really got a good answer for this question. Do the blackheads on the nose ever go away? Does this area ever get clear? Is this possible? I was told/taught that this may go away through exfoliation, being consistent with you skin care regimen, facials, etc. But I don't really see it working on a lot of people with all sorts of skin and those who also keep up with their skin care. So what is the truth? Thank you!Uschi |
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Sun Sep 25, 2011 12:13 am |
I think people who remain consistent with BHA's do get rid of their blackheads, but never really shrink their pores so the shadow of the pore makes it seem like there's blackheads. Supposedly, Retin-A can help solve that problem, which I am waiting to try as my order comes in |
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Sun Sep 25, 2011 2:51 am |
Blackheads are pores which are filled with sebum/gunk and the top part which is exposed to air, oxidises and turns black.
Exfoliation works well because it cleans out the pores and refines the skin - cleansing is definitely key. I find that Retin-A 0.1% works extremely well in keeping blackheads on the nose at bay. But don't go applying this all over the face. |
_________________ Born 1950. There's a new cream on the market that gets rid of wrinkles - you smear it on the mirror!! |
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Sun Sep 25, 2011 3:22 am |
I have been using Retin A 0.25% for about 3 weeks and I can't believe the pores on my nose! they are so much better. They were never really bad, but bad enough, I am loving what the Retin A is doing.
I think exfoliation and good skincare is vital. |
_________________ I'm 49, fair skin, green eyes, blonde hair, dry slightly sensitive skin, I have very few wrinkles, slight pigmentation, main worry is sagging..yuck!! Currently using CP |
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Sun Sep 25, 2011 6:04 am |
Everyone is spot on here. Removal of blackheads by manually exfoliating never works. Best to go with a well formulated BHA. Consistent use is the key. |
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Tue Sep 27, 2011 10:50 am |
Sometimes acne or open comedones are symptoms not a diagnosis as such. I honestly don't believe a lot of clients know what their true skin type is to tell their esthetician or dermatologist, they just know how how it reacts to their current or previous skincare. Healthy/ unhealthy lifestyle can play a massive role in skin health, as can using inappropriate cosmetic ingredients, or a routine overloaded with products.
The 'Oil Cleansing Method' thread here on EDS is well worth an esthetician reading IMO. Very interesting what replacing commercial cleansers with natural oils can do for some who are plagued with blocked pores. I am sure you could elicit fabulous results with your massage skills! |
_________________ Sensitivity, forehead pigmentation & elevens, nose & chin clogged pores. Topicals: Aloe vera, squalane, lactic acid, Myfawnie KinNiaNag HG: Weleda calendula, Lanolips, Guinot masque essentiel, Flexitol Naturals, Careprost. Gadgets: Vaughter dermarollers, Lightstim. |
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Tue Sep 27, 2011 10:12 pm |
Can anybody tell me where I could get Retin-A from please? I am in rhe UK. Is it the same as retinol? thanks. |
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Tue Sep 27, 2011 11:31 pm |
I’ve used BHA + BP everyday religiously for 2+ years, and my blackheads/whiteheads never really went away. And I exfoliate everyday as well with a cleansing cloth..
I started using Retin-A Micro 0.04% 3 weeks ago and I’ve seen a huge reduction in the blackheads on my nose and whiteheads on my chin. It’s a change I’ve never experienced with BHA+BP.
If you have not tried using BHA before, try it out first. If it doesn’t get rid of your blackheads, then try Retin-A. |
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chakori
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Joined: 27 Sep 2011
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Wed Sep 28, 2011 12:16 am |
Hi,
This remedy is very popular in India and very easy to whip up. Just buy some chickpea flour (we call it besan) and mix it with some water until you get a smooth paste. Apply it all over your skin. It's great for oily skin because it immediately soaks up all the extra oil and the slightly coarse powder acts as a gentle scrub to get those blackheads out. Leave on the pack for 5 minutes before rinsing. if your skin feels a bit too stretched or dry, next time, put a spoonful of yoghurt in the mixture. This mixture is also great for giving your hair some extra shine.
I'm a new member and this is my first post. Hope it helps you. |
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Wed Sep 28, 2011 7:04 am |
Hi chakori and welcome!
Your 'recipe' sounds fascinating, I'm going to give it a try, thank you. |
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Wed Sep 28, 2011 8:24 am |
Sounds good, where can we buy chickpea flour?
chakori wrote: |
Hi,
This remedy is very popular in India and very easy to whip up. Just buy some chickpea flour (we call it besan) and mix it with some water until you get a smooth paste. Apply it all over your skin. It's great for oily skin because it immediately soaks up all the extra oil and the slightly coarse powder acts as a gentle scrub to get those blackheads out. Leave on the pack for 5 minutes before rinsing. if your skin feels a bit too stretched or dry, next time, put a spoonful of yoghurt in the mixture. This mixture is also great for giving your hair some extra shine.
I'm a new member and this is my first post. Hope it helps you. |
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Wed Sep 28, 2011 8:25 am |
You may try to use Neostrata Gel plus. |
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Wed Sep 28, 2011 10:33 am |
pips wrote: |
Can anybody tell me where I could get Retin-A from please? I am in rhe UK. Is it the same as retinol? thanks. |
You can only get retin a on prescription in the UK.
Active extracts sell retinyl acetate in the UK. Alternatively, you can buy retin a without prescription from all day chemist based in India, although some people have had issues with card fraud when using them - myself included! |
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chakori
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Thu Sep 29, 2011 3:19 am |
I'm guessing you'd find it at any local Indian food store. It's called besan in Hindi and is also known as gram flour. |
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Thu Sep 29, 2011 8:38 am |
Firefox7275 wrote: |
The 'Oil Cleansing Method' thread here on EDS is well worth an esthetician reading IMO. Very interesting what replacing commercial cleansers with natural oils can do for some who are plagued with blocked pores. |
Does anyone know how the OCM is supposed to clear the pores? For example, do all the little plugs need to fall out before you have clear skin? or do they just kind of slowly disappear?
I've been using this method every night for about 3 weeks, and initially a lot of plugs fell out but overall my skin is still noticeably clogged with black heads (mostly my forehead and nose). This past week and a half, nothing has really been coming out. I guess, I'm not sure if this is the best it will get or if I continue it will slowly get better? Any ideas? |
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Thu Sep 29, 2011 8:50 am |
papertiger wrote: |
Does anyone know how the OCM is supposed to clear the pores? For example, do all the little plugs need to fall out before you have clear skin? or do they just kind of slowly disappear?
I've been using this method every night for about 3 weeks, and initially a lot of plugs fell out but overall my skin is still noticeably clogged with black heads (mostly my forehead and nose). This past week and a half, nothing has really been coming out. I guess, I'm not sure if this is the best it will get or if I continue it will slowly get better? Any ideas? |
It's well worth skimming the first, say, fifteen pages of the OCM thread. It's on the first page of the 'Skincare Tools & DIY' board but I am too new to post a link, sorry. If you don't find the answer then maybe post there so the 'old hands' can help you out?
A lot of people seem to need to amend their recipe in the first few weeks or need to steam or massage for longer. Don't forget there are literally thousands of pores on the human face, so if your skin is very congested it could take a while for all the plugs to clear. |
_________________ Sensitivity, forehead pigmentation & elevens, nose & chin clogged pores. Topicals: Aloe vera, squalane, lactic acid, Myfawnie KinNiaNag HG: Weleda calendula, Lanolips, Guinot masque essentiel, Flexitol Naturals, Careprost. Gadgets: Vaughter dermarollers, Lightstim. |
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Thu Sep 29, 2011 9:11 am |
Firefox7275 wrote: |
It's well worth skimming the first, say, fifteen pages of the OCM thread. |
Ha! Yeah, I've looked at the first couple of pages and it seemed like OCM users either hated or loved it. I'll look at the thread again, but more closely. I've been using 50% olive oil and 50% castor oil, I've tried a few different ratios with grapeseed oil but didn't seem to get the same results I've seen with olive oil. |
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Thu Sep 29, 2011 10:00 am |
While I haven't had a problem with blackheads, which means I haven't tried this method, natural methods fascinate me. I've found a few videos online that claim an egg mask can be used for blackhead removals. I can't think of any harm in doing it unless one is allergic to the products used, so perhaps it's worth a try.
You can see demos in these videos (If you're like me, you may need to fast-forward some of them to the useful parts):
youtube.com/watch?v=rxYbEsW8SWc
youtube.com/watch?v=We_mj0WpSC8
youtube.com/watch?v=ZdaY18jPeHY |
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Thu Sep 29, 2011 6:21 pm |
pips wrote: |
Can anybody tell me where I could get Retin-A from please? I am in rhe UK. Is it the same as retinol? thanks. |
alldaychemist sells them online |
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Fri Sep 30, 2011 3:13 am |
papertiger wrote: |
Firefox7275 wrote: |
The 'Oil Cleansing Method' thread here on EDS is well worth an esthetician reading IMO. Very interesting what replacing commercial cleansers with natural oils can do for some who are plagued with blocked pores. |
Does anyone know how the OCM is supposed to clear the pores? For example, do all the little plugs need to fall out before you have clear skin? or do they just kind of slowly disappear?
I've been using this method every night for about 3 weeks, and initially a lot of plugs fell out but overall my skin is still noticeably clogged with black heads (mostly my forehead and nose). This past week and a half, nothing has really been coming out. I guess, I'm not sure if this is the best it will get or if I continue it will slowly get better? Any ideas? |
I love OCM and cleanse my face with oils twice a day. In my opinion it is definitely the best cleansing method. But blackheads can be very stubborn and difficult to get rid of. Retin-A is great for long term control but for a quicker fix, try Mario Badesco Drying Lotion. Just paint it all over the offending areas at night. |
_________________ Born 1950. There's a new cream on the market that gets rid of wrinkles - you smear it on the mirror!! |
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Fri Sep 30, 2011 11:25 am |
What is the point of extracting blackheads?
The holes/open pores can't be closed and just fill up again
Unless someone knows something different... |
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Fri Sep 30, 2011 5:34 pm |
Holmes wrote: |
What is the point of extracting blackheads?
The holes/open pores can't be closed and just fill up again
Unless someone knows something different... |
Holmes I know that when pores are clogged by old cells and dirt, they tend to look enlarged because the oil glands continue to produce oil which must also pass through the clogged pore thus making it even larger.
Using a mask and exfoliating product helps to draw dirt out and remove dead cells respectively, so that your pores are not trying to make room for all that and the sebum that is continually produced. I believe this is the premise products geared toward minimizing pore size use: either a mask that extracts dirt; or a glycolic product that removes dead cells that could clog pores.
Blackheads form the same way when the mixture of sebum and dead skin that clog the pore oxidize in the air. By extracting them, you stop the pore getting bigger and thus reduce the chance of a lot of debris collecting in it. So I guess you could look at this as just a regimen for skincare, not unlike taking a bath. When you wash your body, you'll still get dirty tomorrow and need to wash again. That doesn't mean you should stop taking a bath or shower. Not the best analogy, I know.
Bottom line, not dealing with them just means larger pores over time. Taking them out may just make your pores smaller and your overall complexion better. |
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Fri Sep 30, 2011 6:50 pm |
That's a good explanation. Thanks for that Nonie aka AD. |
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jordanne32
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Joined: 30 Sep 2011
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Fri Sep 30, 2011 7:15 pm |
Does anyone know if Retin- A will severely dry out your skin?
I have extremely dry skin and would not like it to be worse hah |
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Fri Sep 30, 2011 10:04 pm |
jordanne32 wrote: |
Does anyone know if Retin- A will severely dry out your skin?
I have extremely dry skin and would not like it to be worse hah |
There is potential for that to happen initially. However, if you start out slowly (use it every 3-4 days), then you may be able to avoid these side effects |
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