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Tue May 01, 2012 8:52 am  |
Hello Everyone,
I am wondering if anyone could suggest a body wash for dry skin? I have tried so many from pharmacy brands like Eucerin, Nivea, Dove, Olay, Aveeno etc. to spa brands such as Ahava, Juara, Sundari, Pangea etc. and I just can seem to find anything that is non drying.
I don't have exceptionally dry skin, however I do have sensitive skin and I think many body washes contain ingredients that irritate and dry my skin.
Any suggestions would be very helpful. Maybe there's something I haven't heard of....I hope.
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Tue May 01, 2012 9:47 am |
Which country are you from? Many of the products you mention are based on sulphates (sodium lauryl sulphate, ammonium laureth sulphate etc) and other anionic surfactants - maybe try one based on cocoamidopropyl betaine? Sounds strange but you could even go the route of using a light lotion/ cream to cleanse, traditionally aqueous cream was used but that does contain sulphates. Ask at the pharmacy for a cheap, sulphate-free alternative. Be sure not to allow shampoo bubbles to wash over your body in the shower, most are also based on harsh surfactants. Also be sure to spend as little time as possible under the water - consider turning the water off as you soap up - because wetting can leach the skin's natural humectants and cause it to dry out further.
Check the body cream you use afterwards contains a balance of humectants and emollients/ occlusives naturally found in a healthy skin barrier. CeraVe cream is worth trying if you are in the US. I just took a quick look at your posting history and it seems you are 50+ which means your skin is likely to be producing fewer lipids, especially cholesterol. Lanolin is a rich source of skin friendly lipids esp. cholesterol - choose a product based on medical grade lanolin to reduce/ stop the risk of an allergic response. |
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Sensitivity, forehead pigmentation & elevens, nose & chin clogged pores. Topicals: Aloe vera, squalane, lactic acid, Myfawnie KinNiaNag HG: Weleda calendula, Lanolips, Guinot masque essentiel, Flexitol Naturals, Careprost. Gadgets: Vaughter dermarollers, Lightstim. |
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Tue May 01, 2012 10:14 am |
Hello Firefox7275
Thank you for your quick response.
I live in Canada and of course the Winters here are very drying, so perhaps the Spring will help ease the dryness I've been experiencing.
It's funny you should mention washing with a light lotion instead of body wash, because I was thinking of doing that if I couldn't find a more moisturizing one. I do have a couple of body washes that contain cocoamidopropyl betaine but I find them drying as well. Maybe this is just an over 50 thing.
The winner here is my husband. He's the recipient of all of my overly drying body washes. He does fine with them. Even if he used sandpaper his skin would be baby soft  |
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Tue May 01, 2012 11:30 am |
| leeleedeedee wrote: |
Hello Firefox7275
Thank you for your quick response.
I live in Canada and of course the Winters here are very drying, so perhaps the Spring will help ease the dryness I've been experiencing.
It's funny you should mention washing with a light lotion instead of body wash, because I was thinking of doing that if I couldn't find a more moisturizing one. I do have a couple of body washes that contain cocoamidopropyl betaine but I find them drying as well. Maybe this is just an over 50 thing.
The winner here is my husband. He's the recipient of all of my overly drying body washes. He does fine with them. Even if he used sandpaper his skin would be baby soft |
I don't believe there is such a thing as a truly moisturising foaming body wash, some just disguise or limit the stripping/ dehydrating effect with additives better than others. AFAIK the only thing gentler than cocoamidopropyl betaine are cationic surfactants, the type found in hair conditioner and skin lotions. Are you soaping up your whole body daily? It can be beneficial to only wash the smelly parts daily, leaving arms and legs for a once or twice weekly wash. Lanolin is amazing for weather protection. You might also consider your diet, ensure you are consuming plenty of essential fatty acids, especially those from oily fish. |
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Sensitivity, forehead pigmentation & elevens, nose & chin clogged pores. Topicals: Aloe vera, squalane, lactic acid, Myfawnie KinNiaNag HG: Weleda calendula, Lanolips, Guinot masque essentiel, Flexitol Naturals, Careprost. Gadgets: Vaughter dermarollers, Lightstim. |
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Tue May 01, 2012 12:15 pm |
Jom.....thank you for the link. It does indeed look like a very nice body wash and lotion.
Firefox7275....I'm rather inclined to agree with you (due to my current issues) that most body washes are indeed very drying because they strip the body of natural oils. Strangely enough I do get enough EFA's in my diet. I also get regular check-ups so I know there's no problem medical wise.
Could companies be using stronger/more irritating ingredients in their products? |
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Tue May 01, 2012 1:34 pm |
| leeleedeedee wrote: |
Firefox7275....I'm rather inclined to agree with you (due to my current issues) that most body washes are indeed very drying because they strip the body of natural oils. Strangely enough I do get enough EFA's in my diet. I also get regular check-ups so I know there's no problem medical wise.
Could companies be using stronger/more irritating ingredients in their products? |
I think there is more demand from consumers for highly foaming products than there was a couple of decades ago, and we shower more frequently. Sulphate surfactants particularly are extremely cheap ingredients which foam well. Combine that with the many changes in our body and skin t hat occur from the age of ~30 and a faster rate of change from the menopause and it's not surprising many people have dry skin. |
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Sensitivity, forehead pigmentation & elevens, nose & chin clogged pores. Topicals: Aloe vera, squalane, lactic acid, Myfawnie KinNiaNag HG: Weleda calendula, Lanolips, Guinot masque essentiel, Flexitol Naturals, Careprost. Gadgets: Vaughter dermarollers, Lightstim. |
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Tue May 01, 2012 2:42 pm |
I have to say, stopping using washes with SLS have been the best thing in the world for my skin! I can't say enough positive things about ditching soaps & shampoos with that crap in them! My hair is totally different & has stopped 80% at least of the shedding I was having.
A very nice thing thing also happened to my skin; the little bumpy areas on the backs of my upper arms & on the inside of my thighs are GONE. Those drove me crazy, & nothing I tried got rid of them. I just recently started using an inexpensive all natural, organic goats' milk body wash, I think I paid $6 for a 16oz bottle. Nothing fancy, but it smells nice & lathers decently. |
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Tue May 01, 2012 4:40 pm |
| I love Olay Ribbons when my skin gets dry. |
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Wed May 02, 2012 2:18 am |
I'm another intense disliker of SLS. Products which contain it really exacerbate the dryness of my skin. Awful stuff!
Firefox's advice is excellent. I know of quite a few fellow eczema sufferers who use emollients as body washes - this would be ideal for people with sensitive or very dry skin also. Unfortunately, I'm not completely au fait with what is available in Canada, but I use Diprobase Cream during an eczema flare-up. You can also mix it in your hands with a little water and use it for washing. Here's a link: http://www.diprobase.co.uk/patient/range/range.php
Health shops are good places to buy reasonably inexpensive non-SLS bodywashing products. Here in the UK, I love those by Organic Surge or JASON.
Suffice to say that since stopping using SLS products, my skin has felt so much less dry and more comfortable and I've experienced a huge reduction in the number of ezcema flare-ups.
After bathing, I swear by Aveeno Skin Relief Lotion, which is the best body moisturiser I have ever used. Makes my skin feel babysoft, smooth and, most importantly, comfortable. These good effects last all day for me, which is very rare indeed. |
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Wed May 02, 2012 6:35 am |
Thank you, everyone, for your responses.
majorb....thank you for your ideas, as well. I do like firefoxe's advice about using emollients as a wash. It was an idea I was thinking about but wasn't really sure if it was viable. Now, I will try it. I will also try the Aveeno lotion I can find Jason products here in Canada. They are sold at many health food shops.I will stop using the SLS. Apparently, they seem to be causing problems for many people, not just myself.
I knew I could get ideas from the fantastic people here on this forum. |
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Wed May 02, 2012 8:18 am |
I can really sympathise with your predicament and hope that some of these suggestions work for you.
If possible, I'd love to read an update in a while about how you fare without SLS. I'm hoping that you'll notice a definite difference, just as I did.
So many manufacturers use SLS because it's cheap and produces plenty of foam. When you start looking at product labels, it's shocking how much stuff contains it.
The Aveeno Skin Relief is simply amazing, I think. Be aware, though, that they make a similar-looking Daily Moisturising Lotion and don't confuse the two. Honestly, the Skin Relief blows my former, much more expensive favourite, Kiehls' Crème de Corps, out of the water completely!
I know from my visits to Canada (my favourite country in the world  ) that you have some really great health food shops. If you fancy a change from JASON, you're bound to find another lovely, non-SLS product in one of the those.
Good luck!
| leeleedeedee wrote: |
Thank you, everyone, for your responses.
majorb....thank you for your ideas, as well. I do like firefoxe's advice about using emollients as a wash. It was an idea I was thinking about but wasn't really sure if it was viable. Now, I will try it. I will also try the Aveeno lotion I can find Jason products here in Canada. They are sold at many health food shops.I will stop using the SLS. Apparently, they seem to be causing problems for many people, not just myself.
I knew I could get ideas from the fantastic people here on this forum. |
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Wed May 02, 2012 8:41 am |
Thank you, majorb for your help and information. I surely will keep you updated. I'm looking forward to trying the Aveeno Skin Relief. Your review of this product is wonderful and I will shop around for it. I know that I can find some Jason products. Yes, Canada has some great health shops and I'm certainly glad you like this country as much as I do. It can get really cold, but our summers are fine(although it can get very hot.)
It will be interesting to find out how much the SLS has an effect on our skin. I want to go SLS free for a while and see the role it plays.
Thank you for your help |
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Wed May 02, 2012 9:04 am |
Thank you, majorb for your help and information. I surely will keep you updated. I'm looking forward to trying the Aveeno Skin Relief. Your review of this product is wonderful and I will shop around for it. I know that I can find some Jason products. Yes, Canada has some great health shops and I'm certainly glad you like this country as much as I do. It can get really cold, but our summers are fine(although it can get very hot.)
It will be interesting to find out how much the SLS has an effect on our skin. I want to go SLS free for a while and see the role it plays.
Thank you for your help |
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Wed May 02, 2012 9:04 am |
An option for those not fortunate enough to have a local supplier of Organic sulphate free body washes, shampoos and facial cleansers is Essential Wholesale.
They have sample sizes very reasonably priced under Bulk Bases.
http://www.essentialwholesale.com/ |
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Wed May 02, 2012 9:23 am |
| Don't be fooled by SLS-free products, the whole family of sulphate surfactants are dehydrating and irritant as are anionic surfactants in general. |
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Sensitivity, forehead pigmentation & elevens, nose & chin clogged pores. Topicals: Aloe vera, squalane, lactic acid, Myfawnie KinNiaNag HG: Weleda calendula, Lanolips, Guinot masque essentiel, Flexitol Naturals, Careprost. Gadgets: Vaughter dermarollers, Lightstim. |
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Wed May 02, 2012 9:31 am |
| Firefox7275 wrote: |
| Don't be fooled by SLS-free products, the whole family of sulphate surfactants are dehydrating and irritant as are anionic surfactants in general. |
I avoid them for a different reason, but not everyone is hyper sensitive to every foaming agent:
Amber Baby Shampoo (Sulfate Free)
Ingredients/Tech Specs:
Aloe barbadensis (Aloe) Juice, Lavendula angustifolia (Organic Lavender) Distillate , Anthemis nobilis (Roman Chamomile) Distillate, Sodium Cocopolyglucoside Tartrate, Cocamidopropyl Betaine, Sodium Cocopolyglucoside Citrate, Vegetable Glycerin, Phenoxyethanol , Tocopherol (Vitamin E), Avena sativa (Oat) Extract, dl-Panthenol (Pro-Vitamin B5), Hydrolyzed Wheat Protein, Xanthan Gum (Polysaccharide Gum), Anthemis nobilis (Chamomile Roman) Essential Oil, Matricaria chamomilla (German Chamomile),Lavandula officinalis (Lavender) Essential Oil, Simmondsia chinensis (Jojoba) Oil, Rosa mosqueta (Rosehip) Seed Oil, Tetrasodium EDTA, Citric Acid
pH: 5 - 5.5
Notice: Essential Wholesale has added a small percentage of Xanthan Gum to our No Sulfate Bases. The Xanthan Gum was added to allow essential oils and fragrance oils to be added to this base without destroying the viscosity of the product. This has caused a slight clouding of the product.
http://www.essentialwholesale.com/s.nl/sc.9/category.107057/.f |
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Wed May 02, 2012 11:39 am |
| DarkMoon wrote: |
I avoid them for a different reason, but not everyone is hyper sensitive to every foaming agent:
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You might find it easier to understand my posts if you read what I say and the context, rather than what you erroneously infer from what I say! |
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Sensitivity, forehead pigmentation & elevens, nose & chin clogged pores. Topicals: Aloe vera, squalane, lactic acid, Myfawnie KinNiaNag HG: Weleda calendula, Lanolips, Guinot masque essentiel, Flexitol Naturals, Careprost. Gadgets: Vaughter dermarollers, Lightstim. |
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Wed May 02, 2012 12:18 pm |
| Firefox7275 wrote: |
| DarkMoon wrote: |
I avoid them for a different reason, but not everyone is hyper sensitive to every foaming agent:
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You might find it easier to understand my posts if you read what I say and the context, rather than what you erroneously infer from what I say! |
To clarify for you I don't use them due to not only the systemic effect but also because of the toxic release in the air in our bathrooms.
My skin has no conditions that are aggravated by them. |
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I'LL SEE YOU ON THE DARKSIDE OF THE MOON.... |
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Wed May 02, 2012 12:48 pm |
| Gayle wrote: |
I have to say, stopping using washes with SLS have been the best thing in the world for my skin! I can't say enough positive things about ditching soaps & shampoos with that crap in them! My hair is totally different & has stopped 80% at least of the shedding I was having.
A very nice thing thing also happened to my skin; the little bumpy areas on the backs of my upper arms & on the inside of my thighs are GONE. Those drove me crazy, & nothing I tried got rid of them. I just recently started using an inexpensive all natural, organic goats' milk body wash, I think I paid $6 for a 16oz bottle. Nothing fancy, but it smells nice & lathers decently. |
Gayle, what are you using on your hair? I would love to know.
Am I crazy for wondering why nobody is suggesting the use of a natural moisturized soap? I started having terrible itches on my feet, hands and underarms a few years ago, and eventually understood that it was less likely to happen when I used a mild soap and did not wash my hair with a shampoo. |
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Wed May 02, 2012 1:07 pm |
| hello melanie haber....what kind of soap are you using and are you saying that you find them more hydrating than body washes? I always felt that bar soaps were more drying. |
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Wed May 02, 2012 2:06 pm |
| melanie haber wrote: |
| Gayle wrote: |
I have to say, stopping using washes with SLS have been the best thing in the world for my skin! I can't say enough positive things about ditching soaps & shampoos with that crap in them! My hair is totally different & has stopped 80% at least of the shedding I was having.
A very nice thing thing also happened to my skin; the little bumpy areas on the backs of my upper arms & on the inside of my thighs are GONE. Those drove me crazy, & nothing I tried got rid of them. I just recently started using an inexpensive all natural, organic goats' milk body wash, I think I paid $6 for a 16oz bottle. Nothing fancy, but it smells nice & lathers decently. |
Gayle, what are you using on your hair? I would love to know.
Am I crazy for wondering why nobody is suggesting the use of a natural moisturized soap? I started having terrible itches on my feet, hands and underarms a few years ago, and eventually understood that it was less likely to happen when I used a mild soap and did not wash my hair with a shampoo. |
Melanie, at the moment I am using a shampoo by Pravanna. This:
http://www.drugstore.com/products/prod.asp?pid=373442&catid=183475&aid=337953&aparam=pravana_color_ensure_sul&CAWELAID=1035156397
Luckily have a hairdresser's license, so I get mine wholesale. But there are lots of them out there now, as they are getting more popular. |
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Wed May 02, 2012 2:24 pm |
| leeleedeedee wrote: |
| hello melanie haber....what kind of soap are you using and are you saying that you find them more hydrating than body washes? I always felt that bar soaps were more drying. |
Honestly, I can't say they are more hydrating than body washes because either I don't have a big dryness problem or I just have a bad feel for the difference in product results. I DO have some sort of itchiness problem that I thought was related to dry skin from perimenopause, but the reason for the itching mighht be something else. And I know I am reacting to something. (for example, A Burt's Bees body wash once brought out a temporary rash of small raised red itching welts surrounding my underarms.....????!!!?!)
I do, however, think that soaps can vary in their tendency to dry people out, largely depending on what oils they are made from and what oils they have added to them.
The basic soaps I have been using have been a Johnson's baby soap, Purpose soap, and Basis soap for Sensitive Skin, and some natural soaps that were a gift. I really liked the last one, and the first two were OK. Strangely, I have found that Palmolove deodorant soap from the dollar store dos not "itch" me. Also strangely, I feel that NCN rassoul clay soap HAS caused a reaction, though I could be wrong.
I really recommend trying the basis soap and just slathering on a good moisturizer, or oil at night, and like others suggested, don't overwash what doesn't require washing. You might even skip your shower once in a while and only use a cleansing wipe of some kind on the "must wash" parts of you. (?)
Even Dove soap might be worth a try since it's cheap anyway. |
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Wed May 02, 2012 3:45 pm |
| DarkMoon wrote: |
| Firefox7275 wrote: |
| DarkMoon wrote: |
I avoid them for a different reason, but not everyone is hyper sensitive to every foaming agent:
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You might find it easier to understand my posts if you read what I say and the context, rather than what you erroneously infer from what I say! |
To clarify for you I don't use them due to not only the systemic effect but also because of the toxic release in the air in our bathrooms.
My skin has no conditions that are aggravated by them. |
What are you clarifying? What does your healthy skin have to do with the OPs reactive, dehydrated skin?  |
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Sensitivity, forehead pigmentation & elevens, nose & chin clogged pores. Topicals: Aloe vera, squalane, lactic acid, Myfawnie KinNiaNag HG: Weleda calendula, Lanolips, Guinot masque essentiel, Flexitol Naturals, Careprost. Gadgets: Vaughter dermarollers, Lightstim. |
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