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Sat May 05, 2012 7:24 am      Reply with quote
Hello everyone. I am desperately searching for a new moisturizer and I need some help. Sad I've been searching for months and can't find one. I currently use Olay Definity intense hydrating cream but it's been discontinued. Sad A bit of info about my skin: I am 26, have rosacea and melasma and my skin is dry and very sensitive. I also am using some serums and EltaMD spf 46 UV clear sunscreen, but am finding it VERY drying, and my current face cream underneath it doesn't help much. I am trying really hard to find a new facial moisturizer that contains both niacinimide AND glucosamine. The combo helps my discoloration and rosacea. However, I'm looking for one that isn't in a jar because I think that makes my rosacea worse. (Extra bacteria etc.) and my current face cream IS in a jar. Fragrance free would also be nice.

Does anyone know of ANY moisturizers with both niacinimide and glucosamine? Olay merged the Definity brand with Total Effects and came out with a new cream that has both ingredients, but it seems to exaserbate my rosacea! Whereas the other one didn't. I also don't like the jar packaging. I was thinking of trying Olay Regenerist deep hydration cream, but it doesn't have glucosamine. I've also come across NCN Formula 555 with niacinimide and glucosamine, which I'd like to try, but I don't think it's a moisturizer. Can anyone give me any suggestions or advice? TIA to anyone who can help me!
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Sat May 05, 2012 7:38 am      Reply with quote
You could use the NCN serum first then a cream made for rosacea?

As far as jars you can find plastic spatulas (small) and use them to dispense your cream instead of fingers keeping fingers from contaminating your cream.
Also from NCN so you would save on shipping from two sellers.

Rosacea/Sensitive

Rose Organic Moisturizer 2 oz

http://ncnskincare.com/rosacea-sensitive-c-21/rose-organic-moisturizer-2-oz-p-63

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Sun May 06, 2012 2:47 am      Reply with quote
Check out Cerave PM. Its inexpensive and contains a decent amount of niacinimide. You could consider adding the glucosamine yourself.
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Sun May 06, 2012 3:44 am      Reply with quote
You might want to look at the Cellese thread.

http://www.essentialdayspa.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=45400&start=0

The products are supposed to work wonders for roseacea
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Sun May 06, 2012 5:26 am      Reply with quote
Would you be willing to consider DIY? This KinNiaNag serum recipe gets rave reviews for rosacea and hyperpigmentation
http://www.skincaretalk.com/a/kinnianag-kinetin-b3-nag-antiaging-anti-acne-serum

As already mentioned CeraVe lotion is considered gentle and non-comedogenic, and contains the balanc of lipids needed to strengthen the skin barrier (keeps water in, chemicals and bacteria out). Another option is to switch your chemical sunscreen to a more moisturising one such as the Devita Solar Protective. This is based on zinc oxide alone so can help control breakouts and calm skin, and aloe vera which is hydrating and healing. Cool
http://cerave.com/our-products/facial-moisturizing-lotion-pm/
http://www.essentialdayspa.com/devita-solar-protective-m-p_14027.htm

You might purchase a couple of airless pumps or other bottles and transfer any favourite jar creams across. There are loads of suppliers (list on a sticky on the DIY board) but I mention this one because they sell a kit to make the KinNiaNag serum
http://stores.skinessentialactives.com/-strse-SEA-Lab-cln-SEA-Lab-Kits/Categories.bok
http://stores.skinessentialactives.com/-strse-Bottles-and-Jars/Categories.bok

Last thought is to ask if you are consistently eating a hydrating, anti inflammatory diet? Nutrition can have a huge effect on skin sensitivity, dryness and breakouts.

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Mon May 07, 2012 5:09 am      Reply with quote
Thank you so much for your suggestions everyone. Very Happy

DarkMoon, the little spatulas are a great idea! Perhaps even cotton swabs would work as well? And yes I was thinking of using the serum and then a different cream, but I'm currently using a serum I really like so I wasn't sure. I guess I'd have to use both together and then the face cream. Confused I wonder if it's ok to mix products like that.

GirlieGirl, I was thinking of adding glucosamine myself to a face cream, but wasn't sure how to do that. I've never done DIY like that sort before. I mean, if you buy the glucosamine for that purpose, is it a powder and do you just mix/stir the proper amount into the cream?

jom, wow! That looks incredible. I'd LOVE to try that serum. (Probably couldn't use the Accelerator right now though as it's got retinol.) Very intriguing I must say. I'd love to see the effect it would have on my rosacea and discoloration. I couldn't afford it right now but I'll definitely keep it in mind. Perhaps I'll start an early christmas list for my husband LOL! (And will keep reading that thread! Smile)

Firefox, I am very interested in DIY and that serum looks fantastic. I may attempt DIY in the future, but for now I guess I'm a little overwhelmed trying to find an appropriate moisturizer first. (Except I may try adding glucosamine to a cream but am not sure how to do that.)

I think that Devita sunscreen looks wonderful and I am very interested in it. I may try it sometime soon! Is it drying at all? I know high percentages of zinc tend to be drying for my skin. I'd love to know your thoughts on it.

I would LOVE to purchase some airless pumps to transfer a cream into. That's a fantastic idea, thank you! I looked on the DIY sticky and tried to click on the links but one of the pages wasn't available. There was one with websites like skinactives and bulkactives etc. Can you purchase pumps from there? I've never done anything like this before. I wonder if you'd mind giving me some more links of where I could purchase some airless pumps? I also wonder, if a cream is thick, can you still pump it out of such a pump do you think? And how do you make the pump/bottle sanitized etc. I've got no idea how you'd do that. And then once you're finished the product, do you just clean/sanitize the pump bottle and then refill it again? Sorry for all the questions, I'm new to this! But I'd love to do this because my main concern is antioxidants oxidizing, and bacteria. (Though DarkMoons idea of the little spatulas is a great idea for bacteria, I still worry about the antioxidants.)

Regarding my diet, actually nutrition/diet is something I find really interesting and read a lot about it. I eat a pretty strict diet and I know I do a lot wrong possibly but am confused. I also take a lot of supplements. Sigh. An anti-inflammatory diet is what I strive for, but for example, I can't eat as many berries and teas as I used to. I've run into many problems and issues in the past couple of years. For one, I have celiac disease. I also have PCOS. "Polycystic ovary syndrome." Which is a huge struggle. (Though I am not overweight, as is common with pcos. I am 5'1 1/2 and around 105-110 lbs.) But I definitely have blood sugar issues and don't tolerate many things with carbohydrates (unless it's certain kinds and I pair it with fat/protein/fiber.) I don't eat dairy. I pretty much eat the same thing every single day. Fats are something I struggle with ie the proper ratio of fats etc. I take a lot of fish oils etc. Evening primrose oil helps my dry skin and hair, but affects my hormones and can make me moody for some reason. Anyhow, I used to be vegan from about 18-23 but then the PCOS happened and have since been trying to eat more protein and less carbs as it's the recommended diet for PCOS due to blood sugar problems. It's what keeps my symptoms at bay the most. And I don't eat much fruit anymore because fructose seems to hurt my stomach and not be very good for PCOS apparently. (Except things like berries etc.)

So everyday I wake up and have 1/4 cup soynuts, sometimes a little peice of 70% (or higher) dark chocolate and a heaping 1/2 tsp matcha green tea. Then for lunch I eat a massive organic dark green salad. (Probably like 6 cups of raw dark leafy greens. Sometimes around 4 cups if not very hungry) with some sort of protein. (Chicken breast, tuna, salmon, etc.) Very rarely I'll have an omega egg. And the salad will have different veggies such as cucumber and bell pepper etc. and organic dressing, sometimes a touch of extra virgin olive oil, raw garlic, potassium substitute "salt", (I don't use or eat salt) black pepper, and sometimes other spices. And about 1/2 cup of beans. (I used to eat lentils but can't as they seem to make my blood sugar skyrocket where as beans don't, which is odd.) I used to add berries to my salads but they were staining my teeth so now I can't except the rare strawberries. Confused To compensate I started taking blueberry extract pills even though I know it's not the same. I used to consume a ton of green/white/rooibos/herbal teas but they stained my teeth as well so now I just have the matcha tea in the morning lol. For dinner I have a bowl of organic mixed grains cereal (low sugar gluten free kind) with unsweetened organic soy milk. And I have this "treat" I make. It's about 2 tbs of melted organic natural peanut butter with a square of 70% dark chocolate that I let harden in the fridge. (It's delicious! Sometimes I use other nut butters.) I also have 1-2 peices of candied ginger and a slice or two of natural chicken lunchmeat. I sometimes have a bit of tomato paste for extra lycopene also. Oh, and I drink diet pop or have diet jello sometimes. Which I know isn't good! I also eat a tiny bit of organic raw coconut oil everyday for the medium chain fatty acids. That's what I eat pretty much everyday. Sometimes I eat a few mixed nuts. And I take a lot of supplements. I also take metamucil for extra fiber and use a little bit of xylitol in my water for my teeth lol. I hope that wasn't too detailed. I tend to ramble on. It must be the matcha! Laughing

Thanks again everyone for your help! Smile
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Mon May 07, 2012 7:15 am      Reply with quote
Adding NAG powder to a cream is an excellent intro to DIY, I would be amazed if someone has not already doctored CeraVe in that manner - run a search here and on Skincaretalk. Generally you would not add a powder to a cream, it's VERY difficult to get an even blend and it can be gritty because it does not dissolve properly. Generally you would dissolve in a little water or another solvent then blend with the cream. I trained in hospital pharmacy many moons ago and had to blend a caustic bright yellow powder into a cream and it was a loooong process with a glass tile and spatula to get it even, plus really you need to be in a 'clean room' for hygiene.

You do need a proper scale - one that is accurate down to 0.1g. Also consider its maximum weight, which needs to be the finished volume you want to make PLUS the weight of your container. Scales are relatively inexpensive and you could pick one up along with your airless pump bottles. Some actives are pH sensitive so you would also need pH test papers or a pH meter: NAG is not so fussy tho IIRC.

Some antioxidants are more stable than others, so the whole formulation needs to be considered. Air contact is an issue but so is exposure to light and heat. Thick creams you might pack down into several smaller jars and store the spare in your refrigerator? The airless pump bottles can be cleaned and reused: hot soapy water and a tiny bottle brush OR through the dishwasher. Then sterilise with alcohol because that evaporates off leaving no residue.

Lotioncrafter have bottles, scales (from $25) and NAG
http://www.lotioncrafter.com/lotioncrafter-premium-ingredients-containers-packaging/
Making Cosmetics have the bottles, but no scales or NAG
http://www.makingcosmetics.com/Containers-amp-Bags/Bottles-c46/
Skin Essential Actives have bottles, scales (from $20) and NAG
http://stores.skinessentialactives.com/-strse-Bottles-and-Jars/Categories.bok
Bulk Actives have the bottles, scales (from $15) and NAG
http://www.bulkactives.com/airlesspumpbottle.htm
Skin Actives and Garden of Wisdom don't have what you are looking for unfortunately.

That Devita is considered very dewy and hydrating, there are reviews over on the review section. I will come back to the nutrition when I am more awake! Laughing

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Mon May 07, 2012 8:01 am      Reply with quote
I found my scale here for $15! Very convenient!

Here is the description and link:

If you are new to the world of Making Your Own skincare, this scale will help you create great formulations right from the beginning - and then recreate them again and again. One of the benefits of having a scale is being able to be sure of the amounts you are using. Measuring with kitchen implements like teaspoons and tablespoons will work, but with the different densities in liquids and powders, your measurements might change each time. Small variations in each batch are normal (and acceptable) but can be tricky when working with potent actives (either in activity, aroma, or color). Weighing a powder is consistent and convenient. This will help you find the perfect formulation and be able to replicate it every time. It will also help when you are doing small batches (things that a kitchen scale has trouble measuring).

We chose this scale because it had lots of great features we thought you might like. It’s about 4” x 4” x 1” and also has a collapsible screen, which is a nice feature, making it compact for storage in a kitchen drawer. It also has two separate plastic trays which help keep the scale safe when not in use, but can also be used as great weighing trays! Just remember to clean and dry well before putting away the scale. There are three easy buttons: on/off, mode (this allows you to switch from grams to ounces and more), and tare (this allows you to place a tray on the scale, “zero” it with the tray still on, and still measure your powder accurately. The scale goes to 1000 grams and comes with the batteries included. Try it once and your formulations will never be the same again.

http://www.skinactives.com/Scale.html

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Mon May 07, 2012 10:37 am      Reply with quote
hi egyptiangoddess,

I'm sorry to hear about the skin trouble.
Have you tried Avčne's anti-redness (also moisturising) creams? (I have mild rosacea, and had good results in terms of hydration + even eradication of the redness)
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Tue May 08, 2012 3:05 am      Reply with quote
Thank you arielle. I haven't seen the avene anti redness creams. Wow! I'm going to look it up!

Thanks Firefox and DarkMoon! Very Happy

OK. I'm ready to shop for DIY supplies LOL. Last night I tried the fragrance free olay micro-sculpting cream and loved it. So let's say I'd like to add NAG to that cream. It's very thick. I wonder if dissolving the NAG in a solvent and then adding it to the cream would thin the cream out enough to be able to use it in a pump bottle. Do you think? Or is it such a small amount that it wouldn't change the consistency of the cream?

I also wonder what kind of solvent I would use. I read that introducing water to a product is bad because it causes bacteria to grow. Confused So if I wanted to use something else, what sorts of solvents can you choose from?

Then I suppose I would need to figure out what percentage of NAG I would want to add to the cream. I've seen various percentages for NAG such as 2%, 3%. I saw 4% recommended on bulkactives and then there's 5% in the NCN serum. What percentage of NAG, I wonder, is best for lightening skin? I'm confused about how much to use for the best results. I assume all of these percentages are probably a lot more than what is in my current face cream!

I think I would do this in the kitchen after disinfecting the counter/area. Hmmm, so on my shopping list so far is NAG, scale, containers, ph papers. I must say, I feel quite like an evil scientist! Laughing

Thank you for all your help ladies! I have hope now that I will have a proper moisturizer soon! (And perhaps start DIYing lots of other things. Very Happy)

ETA: one more thing. I saw "pearl powder" on the NCN site. Do you know anything about that regarding skin Firefox? I was thinking about maybe adding that to my face cream as well, to give it a pearlescent sort of finish. (As well as topical benefits if they are really true!) I wonder if that would work? Also, I didn't know there was primers that did that. I've never used one!
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Tue May 08, 2012 5:09 pm      Reply with quote
Skinmedica redness relief calmplex.

This product is designed specifically for rosesea proned people.

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You would use sterile distilled water to dissolve the NAG; as long as it is a relatively small amount and you use clean/ sterile containers the products preservatives will protect you. Don't deliberately thin the cream down to lotion consistency tho, you will end up having to add more emulsifiers, check the pH, more preservatives and you will be diluting down the other actives. Actives are often used at different rates (%) for different goals or when they are/ are not working synergistically. The research supports 4% niacinamide with 2% NAG (BulkActives are wrong, SkinEssentialActives are correct), which is good because the less powder the less water so the better chance you have of a successful blend.
http://pgbeautyscience.com/assets/files/posters/P219%20Matts_Chromophore%20Mapping.pdf
Definitely don't add pearl powder, make as few changes as possible IMO or you could end up chucking the lot down the drain. Leave your sunscreen or make up for sparkle if you want that.

Will post on nutrition shortly.

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Nutrition ... I work in lifestyle healthcare so apologies in advance for the essay! Embarassed We can work with coeliac and PCOS, actually the healthiest diets for many conditions are very similar. It does concern me how restrictive you are - it's really important to take in the full range of vitamins, minerals and antioxidant phytonutrients and that requires a varied diet. That is partly because different foods are rich in different nutrients and partly due to synergism/ antagonism in absorption and utilisation. I'm also not sure you are eating enough total calories. I can imagine with your health issues you might almost have a fear of trying new foods or new combinations? ((hugs))

Fruits & veggies: try to get nine portions per day in a rainbow of colours - so two orange-yellow, two red, two purple-black, two green plus one white. You can obviously mix that up from day to day but the point being green is not better. So if you like salad be sure to have, say, one portion each of green and red-purple leaves plus tomatoes, yellow bell pepper and black olives. If you want two green have green leaves plus avocado, red onion, yellow corn and beetroot. This is particularly important if you are avoiding or limiting fruit.

Protein: The body cannot store spare protein so it is best to eat little and often all day. How do you feel about canned fish? Both pink salmon and sardines/ pilchards are a rich source of easily digestible protein, essential fatty acids AND, if you eat the crumbly bones, magnesium and calcium which you are not getting from dairy at present. IMO the easiest way to eat the bones is to make some kind of simple fish pate and mash them right in. Otherwise how are you replacing the bioavailable calcium in dairy products? Try to get some protein into your evening snack, it's skewed in favour of processed carbs at present.

Healthy fats: I am not sure that you are eating enough fat. An adult female needs ~70g per day, BUT more if they are exercising regularly (key in managing PCOS hormones and blood sugar), and more if they are eating a lower carb diet. You don't seem to be eating much animal fat at all, few grains, limited nuts and seeds. Your coconut and your peanut/ chocolate treat are great, definitely keep that up! Very Happy More omega eggs would be good, olives, avocados, maybe creamed or whole coconut, more walnuts or pumpkin seeds. If you do the maths and this needs increasing do so slowly to get your body used to having the extra calories available. It would be good to add these to your breakfast, that really is just a snack rather than a balanced meal at present. Always have a fat portion with your salads because this helps absorb nutrients.

Carbohydrates: Beans and lentils count towards your nine a day, and different ones have a different glycaemic index. That means some affect your blood sugar more than others, which is partly down the precise chemical structure of the sugars and starches and partly down to the cooking and processing method. Other low to moderate glycamic index carbs that you can eat in moderation include brown basmati rice, sweet potatoes and raw carrots. One of the best ways to stabilise the blood sugar and keep the metabolism high is to eat every three to four hours, little portions of carbs always with a larger portion of fat or protein. Also consider adding vinegar, lemon juice or grapefruit juice to a higher carbohydrate or higher glycaemic index meal as this slows the digestion/ absorption.

Fibre: The body benefits from both insoluble and soluble fibre. Insoluble is mainly in grains, vegetables, nuts and seeds: soluble is mainly in fruit, pulses and particularly feeds the 'friendly' bacteria in the gut. Did your doctor or a registered dietician recommend the extra fibre on your current diet? This can bind hormones and sweep them out of the body BUT can also bind fats and micronutrients and sweep those out too. For that reason I prefer my clients to get fibre from wholefoods if possible.

Supplements: if you are eating a balanced diet you should not need to supplement omega-6s in evening primrose, quite the reverse because the ratio of omega-6 to omega-3 is critical. The only omega-6 that is anti-inflammatory is GLA, which a healthy body can make from LA which in turn is abundant in the diet. The research on GLA and skin is positive for topical application (borage oil) but not in favour of supplementing. Given your young age I wonder if the reason you are benefiting from the EPO supplement is simply that there is not enough fats in your diet without. Aim for 3g per day of combined DHA and EPA from your fish oil. Hopefully you are already taking a freeze dried probiotic? What else are you taking please?

Not sure what your budget is but it might be worth asking your dentist or researching what you can use to prevent your teeth staining? You should be eating purple-black fruits or veggies daily for health, and it is a shame when you obviously enjoy healthy foods. I believe there are 'paint on' products and toothpastes that can block the channels in the enamel/ form a shield. Having your teeth whitenened worsens this, not sure if whitening toothpastes are the same. Confused

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Wed May 09, 2012 9:52 am      Reply with quote
Thanks BCgirl, I haven't heard of that moisturizer either. I'll look it up!

Firefox, wow, thank you so much Smile I know that was probably really time consuming. I really appreciate it! I'll respond to your nutrition post when I'm back near my supplement bottles. And I'm definitely going to take your advice. Very Happy I'm thinking about adding macadamia nut oil to my diet. I'm interested in the omega 7's it contains and apparently it's safe to cook with. Do you ever use macadamia nut oil?

About the DIY, I'm sorry if this seems daft but do you purchase the distilled water or do you make it yourself?

Thanks again Smile

ETA: I forgot to ask, have you tried that KinNiaNag serum Firefox, and if so, do you like it? It looks very nice.
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Yes I am currently using the Myfawnie version of the KinNiaNag serum; the texture is silky gorgeous, it is gentle enough for my skin (atopic eczema/ contact dermatitis) but it is too soon to see results on the anti-ageing side. I suggest KNN based on the published research into the actives, how many people on Skincaretalk rave about that recipe and because I am a huge fan of multi-tasking ingredients. Very Happy You should be able to pick up sterile distilled water from a pharmacy.

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Firefox, can you tell me if you know how long the myfawnie version of the knn serum would last? I mean in terms of does it spoil quickly or does it stay useable for quite a while? I know DIY recipes don't last very long so I'm wondering how long that one would be useable for. And is it oily?
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Skin moisturizers come in many varieties. Try Astral moisturizer. Astral is full of delicately balanced and nourishing ingredients which make it a perfect all-over moisturizer.
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Thank you smithjons, haven't heard of that one either Smile

Firefox, sorry in advance for this long post. I found the answer to my question about how long the serum lasts! On the fawnie skin care site it said you should use the products within six months of opening. (Except Kassy's C serum.) So yay Smile And guess what? I decided to purchase the kinnianag serum from fawnie, to try! And she's making me an oil-free version! Because I was a little worried about the oil. Rosacea is a delicate situation so I was unsure and didn't know what oil would be best. And I know different fatty acid profiles can affect skin in different ways, so I figured better safe than sorry for now. (I saw you say oleic acid isn't good for Seb. derm, I think. So I thought maybe some different fatty acids maybe aren't good for rosacea?) Anyhow, I'm very excited. Thanks for recommending that to me. Very Happy

Sorry I haven't replied about the supplements yet. I've been going through a hard time because Mother's Day is coming. It's a very hard time for me because my mom died and my step mom also just died. So I'm in a right state right now so I apologize. Thank you so much for your nutrition advice. I am going to print it out Smile

I don't have a dietitian no, I just take metamucil for extra fiber because I know I don't get enough and also because I have gallbladder problems. I get very sick if I eat too much fat. Confused The metamucil helps that. And yes, I do enjoy eating healthy food very much. Health and nutrition are really important to me. In fact, focusing on an anti-inflammatory diet for the past few years has really helped my asthma and allergies. I was able to get off the asthma medication called "Singulair" and decrease my inhaler dosages! But it's less so now without all my green tea and berries unfortunately. You can imagine my distress at not being able to eat lots of berries and such. The dentist said my teeth were staining due to the tea. Especially green tea. She said it's the worst for staining because of the polyphenols in it Confused I was drinking a lot, as well as other teas mixed in. And my hygienist said to maybe not eat so many berries. I was eating lots of blueberries and raspberries. I also decreased my dark chocolate from 2 squares a day to 1. So, quite sad about it all really! I brush my teeth twice a day and floss once. (I NEVER skip brushing and flossing!) I also use Listerine Total twice a day. Wonder if that's a problem for increased staining. I'll have to ask my dentist when I go.

So, I take Calcium/Magnesium/Vitamin D twice a day every day. I'm very conscious about my calcium intake for a couple of reasons. For one, I'm on the asthma inhaler medication called "Flovent" which I've read *may* increase osteoporosis risk. (And I've been on it since I was little.) And secondly, osteoporosis runs in my family. My mother had it when she was only 50 years old. So badly that she broke both her legs from falling on the floor. It was horrific. So, I take my cal/mag/D twice a day every day. I get around 800 mg calcium from my diet a day. Which I forgot to mention, I also have a 1/2 - 1 cup of unsweetened almond milk in the morning with my soy nuts. Anyhow, I'm quite unsure if I am taking too much calcium to be honest. This is my supplement regimen.

Morning:
-A 1:1 Calcium/Magnesium pill (Which contains 250 mg each Calcium/Magnesium and 200 IU Vitamin D)
-A Dandelion pill (For my gallbladder)

Lunch:
-Multivitamins (Which contain extra antioxidants like white tea extract, pomegranate extract, grape seed extract and collagen. Don't know if any of those do anything though.)
-A silica pill (Because I read it helps nails and skin and I figured it might be good for bones anyhow. I don't take it for hair growth. No problems there except dry hair!)
-Sometimes a Blueberry extract capsule
-50 mg zinc. (I know that's probably too much but it helps my rosacea and other health problems. Confused )
-1000 IU Vitamin D
-500 mg Ester C Vitamin C with Bioflavonoids
-1 B50 complex
-Fish oils
-An omega 3679 supplement (For dryness)
-A bit of flaxseed oil (ALA seems to really help my rosacea. More so than fish oils.)

Bedtime:
-600 mg Calcium pill that has 400 IU Vitamin D and then a 150 mg Magnesium capsule. (I know your body can only absorb 500 mg calcium at one time, but the size of these ones makes them easy for me to swallow. And I of course always have fat with my Vitamin D)
-Sometimes another Dandelion pill
-Another omega 3679 supplement
-A Blueberry extract capsule

I sometimes get restless legs at night I think from too much Calcium or something, but I'm not sure. I also take 5htp, gaba and lemonbalm for anxiety/depression/insomnia.

My fish oil situation is tricky and that's why I didn't explain it. So, I don't think I can take the 3 grams of EPA/DHA you recommended because a couple years ago I was taking 3 extra strength fish oil pills a day. But they seemed to cause me incredible anxiety and also problems with my gums. Which still occurs now. If I take too much fish oil, my gums start to hurt and recede and I get very anxious and panicky. Isn't that odd?? It caused me quite an awful time for the past year and a half. My lips start to fall apart and bleed with too much fish oil also. I know you might not understand it though because it's REALLY peculiar and of course everyone talks about how beneficial fish oils are, but that's what happened to me. Confused And happens still if I get too much EPA.

I find that EPA really helps with pain, allergies, depression, and dry skin etc. But it causes me panic/anxiety and the problems I mentioned if I get too much. And DHA seems to calm me and help anxiety, but doesn't help my allergies and depression etc. as much. So I've been struggling with my fish oils especially in the past 6 months. Especially the ratio between EPA/DHA. These problems occurred with different brands also, by the way. So I seem to not be able to take too much. Which I'm sad about as I loved what extra strength fish oils did for my skin and hair. It's quite a struggle to figure this out. However, it seems my 3679 supplement has been discontinued. So I'm going to have to change up my fish oils now and I'm not sure what I'll take. Hence why I plan on incorporating a little bit of Macadamia oil into my diet now. Omega 7's seem to help my dryness issues and I figure it's a good way to get some more monounsaturated fat anyhow. If my gallbladder can handle it. Shock (Omega 7's also seem to help my GERD. Which is weird.)

Quite a mess aren't I?? I'll understand if you'd rather not reply LOL. I guess I need a dietitian or something soon.

Well anyway, I'm very excited for the KNN serum Firefox, thank you for your recommendation. I thought if I liked it, that's what I'd ultimately like to be able to make anyhow, so it'll be a good introduction into DIY things. I read and researched a lot about DIY, and I'm quite excited to get into it! And I'd also like to try more of fawnies things, they look fantastic. Very Happy I did want to try that NCN 555 serum, but then I read that lemon bioferment might not be very good for sensitive skin. Shock So I went with the KNN one Smile
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Firefox, I forgot to add that my multivitamin also has 6mg lycopene. Which I know is good for helping to protect skin from the sun as well as possibly decreasing androgens. (Which are increased in PCOS.) And I WAS taking a tablespoon of tomato paste straight for extra lycopene but I stopped when I started looking orange/yellow! Shock Don't know if that's why though. And I love to eat a lot of foods with lycopene. lol.

Oh, and yes I do fear changing my diet etc. Because I don't want to make my health problems worse, you know? Especially PCOS. And ((hugs)) back! Smile I definitely do try to watch the GI of foods though. Oh shoot, I also forgot to say I take 1 probiotic pill with my lunch. It's called Natural Factors Caldophilus.
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