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Thu Dec 27, 2012 1:18 am  |
Hi
i started retin a recently.
my routine.
1) wash
2) wait for half an hr, apply retin a
3) after 2 hr, apply eye cream and moisturiser
i was thinking could i substitute my moisturiser with a plant butter eg mango butter, macAdamia butter.
How am i going to incorporate vitamin c serum into my routine? |
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Thu Dec 27, 2012 12:56 pm |
You would be using the Retin A at night and the Vit C serum in the morning before you apply your sunscreen.
Do you have to wait 2 hours after Retin A and before moisturizer? I thought you only had to wait 20 to 30 min.
The plant butters are very rich and heavy for my skin and I don't use them, but I suppose there's no harm in trying them and see how your skin does. I used Retin A only for a little bit (I only went through one tube) and the Retin A cream was moisturizing enough for me that I really didn't need another moisturizer on top of it. But that's just my skin and your situation might be different. So I would say, you can experiment but be careful not mix too many ingredients and run into trouble.
Take it easy with the Retin A and slowly build up your tolerance to it.
Good luck. |
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Thu Dec 27, 2012 3:02 pm |
Hello Salome_B  I would apply Vitamin C Serum 2x day, one in the morning and one at night before bedtime. Wait till Vitamin C is absorb before you put anything else. I don't think you need to wait that long to apply moisturizer and/or Retin-A. For Retin-A which is applied at night only, just make sure that you not using too much, as it will cause dryness, peeling/flakiness and redness if used too much. Let your skin adapts to Retin-A. As for mango butter or macadamia butter, go for it, see if you skin likes it. Also, don't forget sunscreen all the time when going out to protect your skin.....I hope this helps |
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Thu Dec 27, 2012 7:17 pm |
i wait 2 hrs so most of the retin a can be absorbed.
so as for vit c and retin a,
can i do this?
1)cleanse
2)wait for half an hr
3)apply retin a
4)wait for an hour, apple vit c
5)wait for 10 mins, apply moisturiser
is this ok? |
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Thu Dec 27, 2012 7:35 pm |
If you are using the LAA version of C I would not use twice a day - that would be very irritating to your skin as both LAA and Retin A exfoliate your skin.
BTW, LAA stays in your skin for about 72 hours... you can apply every other day to get a benefit. |
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Thu Dec 27, 2012 7:38 pm |
| The directions on my vit C serum say it has to be the first thing on the skin after cleansing so it can bind to the skin cells. Did your serum come with any directions? See if you find them or take a look at the manufacturers website. Maybe they have a recommendation. |
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Thu Dec 27, 2012 9:33 pm |
I agree with erg, using both acids every night, may be too irritating, however with slow build up to it I would do:
1)cleanse with gentle cream cleanser
2)wait at least 20 min
3)apply my LAA serum (C)
4)wait for 20 min+
5)oil or moisturiser (optional)
6)retin-A or put just before bed
Sometimes I do 5) as 7), so just before or after my retin-a.
Yes, best absorption they say is to wait at least an hour or to put just before bedtime, however I find I can use it everyday I do it this way. I actually don't use moisturiser though I use a bit of argan oil.
I think its great to do a powerhouse C and A antioxidant treatment at night, but I did find it too drying. Even now I use LAA every second day, (I use AHA/BHAs to alternate) and Retin-A every night. Seems to work best for me.
My advice is start every third night for the 1st two weeks and pea size amount. Don't go all guns a blazing as you may find it to irritate your skin after about 2 weeks into it. Go slow and slowly introduce other acids. Sometimes it takes a bit of trying different routines to see what works.Who said sunscreen is a must?? Absolutley spot on
Good luck
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Thu Dec 27, 2012 11:48 pm |
Depending on the condition of your skin and the purpose of your usage, you CAN use Vitamin C Serum 2x a day. Let your skin absorb Vitamin C serum first before you put anything else (say a moisturizer). The only thing that I would suggest is to use Retin-A every other day (at night) or every 2 days and not to use too much of it, until skin adapts to Retin-A, also depending on the strengths as well. The key to healthy skin is to use the products in small amounts until your skin adapts.
| erg wrote: |
If you are using the LAA version of C I would not use twice a day - that would be very irritating to your skin as both LAA and Retin A exfoliate your skin.
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Fri Dec 28, 2012 12:11 am |
| jade-1234 wrote: |
Depending on the condition of your skin and the purpose of your usage, you CAN use Vitamin C Serum 2x a day. Let your skin absorb Vitamin C serum first before you put anything else (say a moisturizer). The only thing that I would suggest is to use Retin-A every other day (at night) or every 2 days and not to use too much of it, until skin adapts to Retin-A, also depending on the strengths as well. The key to healthy skin is to use the products in small amounts until your skin adapts.
| erg wrote: |
If you are using the LAA version of C I would not use twice a day - that would be very irritating to your skin as both LAA and Retin A exfoliate your skin.
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if my skin is doing well, could i use retin a before vit c? because vit c is watery, will the retin a be diluted? also will the water from vit c irritate my skin with retin a? |
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Fri Dec 28, 2012 12:31 am |
Use Vitamin C Serum first until it is absorbs into the skin. If you do this way, you won't dilute Retin-A at all. I strongly suggest you use Retin-A every 2 days (at night) until your skin adapts. What strength of Retin-A are you using right now? Make sure that you use very small amounts of Retin-A.
| Salome_B wrote: |
if my skin is doing well, could i use retin a before vit c? because vit c is watery, will the retin a be diluted? also will the water from vit c irritate my skin with retin a? |
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Fri Dec 28, 2012 12:43 am |
| jade-1234 wrote: |
Use Vitamin C Serum first until it is absorbs into the skin. If you do this way, you won't dilute Retin-A at all. I strongly suggest you use Retin-A every 2 days (at night) until your skin adapts. What strength of Retin-A are you using right now? Make sure that you use very small amounts of Retin-A.
| Salome_B wrote: |
if my skin is doing well, could i use retin a before vit c? because vit c is watery, will the retin a be diluted? also will the water from vit c irritate my skin with retin a? |
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retin a 0.05 and this is for two months and no side effects yet. i wonder do you need side effects for retin a to work? |
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Fri Dec 28, 2012 1:11 am |
Using Retin-A will accelerate skin turn-over resulting from dry skin, peeling and flaking of the skin within the first few weeks of using it but this is "normal". As dead skin is removed, new skin surface and this is what you want. In order to avoid the "side effects", you should always ensure that your skin is dry first, say waiting at least 30mins prior to using Retin-A. To avoid dryness from using Retin-A, I suggest you use a moisturizer everyday. A fragrance-free hypoallergic brand that won't clog pores and gentle will be ideal for your skin. Once your skin adapts to Retin-A, dryness/peeling/flaking will diminish over time.
| Salome_B wrote: |
retin a 0.05 and this is for two months and no side effects yet. i wonder do you need side effects for retin a to work? |
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Fri Dec 28, 2012 1:15 am |
| jade-1234 wrote: |
Using Retin-A will accelerate skin turn-over resulting from dry skin, peeling and flaking of the skin within the first few weeks of using Retin-A but this is "normal". As dead skin is removed, new skin surface and this is what you want. In order to avoid the "side effects", you should always ensure that your skin is dry first, say waiting at least 30mins prior to using Retin-A. To avoid dryness from using Retin-A, I suggest you use a moisturizer everyday. A fragrance-free hypoallergic brand that won't clog pores and gentle will be ideal for your skin. Once your skin adapts to Retin-A, dryness/peeling/flaking will diminish over time.
| Salome_B wrote: |
retin a 0.05 and this is for two months and no side effects yet. i wonder do you need side effects for retin a to work? |
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but i have not experience real horrible side effects other mentioned.just drier skin and flaking around the mouth. so ok for me to moisturise after retin a right? |
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Fri Dec 28, 2012 1:19 am |
You are on the right track! And yes, you can use moisturizer AFTER Retin-A for sure.
| Salome_B wrote: |
but i have not experience real horrible side effects other mentioned.just drier skin and flaking around the mouth. so ok for me to moisturise after retin a right? |
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Fri Dec 28, 2012 3:15 am |
I think the guidelines are to wait a little while after applying Retin A before applying moisturiser of any sort as its believed that the moisturiser can inhibit the retin a going deep into the derma. Having been a Retin A user for over 30 years, I can honestly say its one of the only things I will never give up (well that and shopping - and pleeze God pray that never happens!)
| jade-1234 wrote: |
You are on the right track! And yes, you can use moisturizer AFTER Retin-A for sure.
| Salome_B wrote: |
but i have not experience real horrible side effects other mentioned.just drier skin and flaking around the mouth. so ok for me to moisturise after retin a right? |
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Fri Dec 28, 2012 7:16 am |
| TheresaMary wrote: |
I think the guidelines are to wait a little while after applying Retin A before applying moisturiser of any sort as its believed that the moisturiser can inhibit the retin a going deep into the derma. Having been a Retin A user for over 30 years, I can honestly say its one of the only things I will never give up (well that and shopping - and pleeze God pray that never happens!)
| jade-1234 wrote: |
You are on the right track! And yes, you can use moisturizer AFTER Retin-A for sure.
| Salome_B wrote: |
but i have not experience real horrible side effects other mentioned.just drier skin and flaking around the mouth. so ok for me to moisturise after retin a right? |
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Hi theresamary,
is an hour enough after applying retin a? also how do i corporate products like vit c and moisturiser into retin a? |
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Fri Dec 28, 2012 12:51 pm |
Hi Salome_B TheresaMary is absolutely correct that you have to wait till Retin-A is absorbed into the skin before applying moisturizer. (Sorry forgot to mention that too). I think half hour (or if you wish 45mins) is more than enough wait time before applying your moisturizer. BTW, been using Retin-A for a very long time too, not exactly 30years though
Good luck! |
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Sat Dec 29, 2012 12:29 am |
Hi
but i am going through this routine at night
cleanse
retin a
moisturiser
i want to incorporate a hyaluronic acid serum and brightening serum do you think it will minimise the effects of retin a? |
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Sat Dec 29, 2012 8:01 am |
Hello Salome_B The last thing that you need to apply is HA Serum... No I don't think it will minimize the effects of Retin-A as long as you ensure that you wait till this is absorb into the skin first before applying HA Serum.
| Salome_B wrote: |
Hi
but i am going through this routine at night
cleanse
retin a
moisturiser
i want to incorporate a hyaluronic acid serum and brightening serum do you think it will minimise the effects of retin a? |
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Sat Dec 29, 2012 8:06 am |
Hi jade,
So tonight i tried this.
cleanse
half an hr retin a
one and half hr later, my ha serum
followed by moisturiser.
is this ok?
i gave my ha serum an hr and half to absorb. |
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Sat Dec 29, 2012 8:10 am |
| Salome_B, the last thing you need to apply is HA Serum. So if you have to use moisturizer, this should be applied before HA Serum... Just make sure that you wait till the product is absorbed before putting another product on your skin. Good luck! |
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Sat Dec 29, 2012 8:12 am |
| jade-1234 wrote: |
| Salome_B, the last thing you need to apply is HA Serum. So if you have to use moisturizer, this should be applied before HA Serum... Just make sure that you wait till the product is absorbed before putting another product on your skin. Good luck! |
hi jade
can i ask why do i have to apply last? So even if i am using up to 3 types of serum - HA, Vit c, Brightening serum. All has to be after moisturiser |
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Sat Dec 29, 2012 8:27 am |
The proper way of using HA Serum is to apply this product after you do your "treatments". HA Serum is great for retaining moisture and also contributes to plumpness, softness, and firmness of our skin. It also locks water into the skin and prevent it from being dry.... The feel of HA is silky and glides smoothly on the skin so when you apply (as the last step) you won't even notice it. I hope this helps
| Salome_B wrote: |
can i ask why do i have to apply last? So even if i am using up to 3 types of serum - HA, Vit c, Brightening serum. All has to be after moisturiser |
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Mon Jan 07, 2013 6:05 am |
i have ordered some oils, butters and serums from gow.
i was thinking can this be my new routine?
Morning:
Cleanse
Cucumber Hydrosol
HA serum
Oils or butter
Night:
Cleanse
Retin A
Oil or butter?
Is it ok? |
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