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Sun May 27, 2012 1:01 pm  |
| If not, please recommend one! |
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Sun May 27, 2012 1:04 pm |
| What are the ingredients, percentage and form of of vitamin C and the pH? |
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Sensitivity, forehead pigmentation & elevens, nose & chin clogged pores. Topicals: Aloe vera, squalane, lactic acid, Myfawnie KinNiaNag HG: Weleda calendula, Lanolips, Guinot masque essentiel, Flexitol Naturals, Careprost. Gadgets: Vaughter dermarollers, Lightstim. |
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Sun May 27, 2012 1:06 pm |
Unfortunately it doesn't say, but I'll ost the ingredient list:
Magnesium Ascorbyl Phosphate (stabilized Vitamin C)Other:Certified organic lavender hydrosol (lavandula officinalis hydrosol), certified organic extracts of green tea (camellia sinensis) and aloe barbadensis, vegetable squalane, plant oils of certified organic borage seed (borago officinalis) and evening primrose (oenothera biennis), papaya (carica papaya) and cucumber (cucumis sativus) extracts, vegetable glycerin, panthenol (pro-vitamin B5), tocopherol and tocopheryl acetate |
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Sun May 27, 2012 1:48 pm |
Since it contains MAP and green tea this discussion is relevant
http://www.essentialdayspa.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=36231&postdays=0&postorder=asc&&start=150 |
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Sensitivity, forehead pigmentation & elevens, nose & chin clogged pores. Topicals: Aloe vera, squalane, lactic acid, Myfawnie KinNiaNag HG: Weleda calendula, Lanolips, Guinot masque essentiel, Flexitol Naturals, Careprost. Gadgets: Vaughter dermarollers, Lightstim. |
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Sun May 27, 2012 1:54 pm |
| bullet875 wrote: |
Unfortunately it doesn't say, but I'll ost the ingredient list:
Magnesium Ascorbyl Phosphate (stabilized Vitamin C)Other:Certified organic lavender hydrosol (lavandula officinalis hydrosol), certified organic extracts of green tea (camellia sinensis) and aloe barbadensis, vegetable squalane, plant oils of certified organic borage seed (borago officinalis) and evening primrose (oenothera biennis), papaya (carica papaya) and cucumber (cucumis sativus) extracts, vegetable glycerin, panthenol (pro-vitamin B5), tocopherol and tocopheryl acetate |
I found a different ingredient list on Avalon Organic site?
The MAP (C) is farther down on this list?
Lavandula Angustifolia (Lavender) (1, Organic Lavender), Chamomilla Recutita (Matricaria) (1, Chamomile), Camellia Sinenis (Green Tea) (2, White Tea), Arnica Montana (Montana Flower) Extract (3, Organic), Aloe Vera (Aloe Barbadensis) Leaf Juice (2, Aloe Barbadensis, Organic), Emulsifying Wax, Magnesium Ascorbyl Phosphate (Vitamin C) (Vitamin C), Vegetable Glycerin, Hyaluronic Acid, Panthenol (Pro Vitamin B5), Olive Squalane, Helianthus Annuus Oil (2, Organic Sunflower), Tocopherol (Natural Vitamin E) (Vitamin E), Tocopheryl Acetate (Vitamin E) (Vitamin E), Glyceryl Laurate, Lemon Bioflavonoid, Melatonin, Organic Borago Officinalis (Borage, flax seed oils [2]), Linum Usitatissimum (Linseed), Rosa Canina (Rose Hip) Oil (Rose Hip), Soy Lecithin, Theobroma Cacao (Cocoa) Butter (Cocoa), Laminaria Digitata (Kelp) Extract, Allantoin (Comfrey Root) (Comfrey Root), Calendula (Calendula Officinalis) Flower Extract (2, Organic), Cetearyl Alcohol, Steareth 20, Glyceryl Stearate, Amodimethicone, Xanthan Gum, Phenoxyethanol |
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Sun May 27, 2012 1:57 pm |
| I think they may have changed the formula |
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Sun May 27, 2012 2:18 pm |
| bullet875 wrote: |
| I think they may have changed the formula |
I do see the original formula on Amazon, but the list I posted is from their site, I noticed the packaging is also different now. |
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Sun May 27, 2012 6:09 pm |
It's really just the 'unstable' L-ascorbic acid, in an aqueous solution, that presents a problem when exposed to the metal ions in things like green tea.. MAP is stable, not pH dependant and it's typically used in <5% concentration.
On another note, regarding the ingredient list discrepancy, I wonder if they ever sorted this complaint out?
http://www.organicconsumers.org/bodycare/nop/casopcomplaint.PDF |
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♥I'm flattered by all the lovely PM's, but I don't get here much these days. Please don't be afraid to post your quearies to other DIY members who will be glad to help you (or sell you their wares..lol) Still happy with LED, dermarolling and a DIY antioxidant regime. Peace & Hugs to all.♥ |
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Mon May 28, 2012 6:17 am |
That stinks! I wonder why they changed the formula? I found a different serum that looks promising...by a company called Cosmetic Skin Solutions...it's a 20% concentration and has ferulic acid:
Water, Ethoxydiglycol, L-Asorbic Acid, Propylene Glycol, Glycerin, Laureth-23, Alpha Tocopherol, Phenoxyethanol, Triethanolamine, Ferulic Acid, Panthenol, Sodium Hyaluronate.
How does that oone look? |
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Mon May 28, 2012 6:36 am |
| bullet875 wrote: |
That stinks! I wonder why they changed the formula? I found a different serum that looks promising...by a company called Cosmetic Skin Solutions...it's a 20% concentration and has ferulic acid:
Water, Ethoxydiglycol, L-Asorbic Acid, Propylene Glycol, Glycerin, Laureth-23, Alpha Tocopherol, Phenoxyethanol, Triethanolamine, Ferulic Acid, Panthenol, Sodium Hyaluronate.
How does that oone look? |
I normally make my own bullet, but some members do use this brand. It is obviously LAA instead of MAP so fine as long as your skin is not overly sensitive! 
Another option I have trialed and works quite well is from skin actives, you just mix the LAA into the serum close and shake, wait a while to make sure all is dissolved and good to go! It can be made up to 20% or less if you add less powder! 1 oz. is only 15.50$ and has CEF and other antioxidants.
Vitamin C Serum with Ascorbic Acid
http://www.skinactives.com/Vitamin-C-Serum-Ascorbic-Acid-L.html |
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Mon May 28, 2012 6:41 am |
Dark Moon:
I bought the skin actives one yesterday! lol I bought the CSS one to take on vacation because I will not have access to refrigeration for 2 days so it can easier to travel with (I'm thinking it doesn't need refrigeration like the Skin Actives one does). I'm going to use the SA one as my daily though. |
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Mon May 28, 2012 6:48 am |
| bullet875 wrote: |
Dark Moon:
I bought the skin actives one yesterday! lol I bought the CSS one to take on vacation because I will not have access to refrigeration for 2 days so it can easier to travel with (I'm thinking it doesn't need refrigeration like the Skin Actives one does). I'm going to use the SA one as my daily though. |
I have been using the SA one for at least 3 weeks and so far it is fine, and if one does not wish to DIY it is a simple way to have a great C serum and know it is fresh when you mix it!
Did you also buy CHAS with MAP? That is a very good serum also! 
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I have not kept my LAA serum refrigerated, and it is fine! |
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Mon May 28, 2012 6:56 am |
OK, dumb question here..what is CHAS?
So, the SA one should be fine if not refrigerated?
That one looks to definitely be my go to serum..can't beat the price!
I did by the John Master's one too but don't know how much LAA is in it. It and the CSS one were highly recommended on the truth in aging site. |
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Mon May 28, 2012 7:07 am |
| bullet875 wrote: |
OK, dumb question here..what is CHAS?
So, the SA one should be fine if not refrigerated?
That one looks to definitely be my go to serum..can't beat the price!
I did by the John Master's one too but don't know how much LAA is in it. It and the CSS one were highly recommended on the truth in aging site. |
You will be fine not refrigerating for a few days no question, I just have not kept mine in the refrigerator at all! I don't with my home made!
They changed the name on The CHAS,
Antioxidant Serum with Glutaredoxin and SOD (CHAS)
http://www.skinactives.com/Antioxidant-Serum-Glutaredoxin-SOD.html
Water, Sea Kelp Bioferment, Sodium PCA, Magnesium Ascorbyl Phosphate, Niacinamide, Carnosine (L), Carnitine (L), Tetrahydrocurcuminoids, Ferulic Acid, Hyaluronic Acid, Green Tea Epigallocatechin Gallate (EGCG), Hesperidin Methyl Chalcone, Aloe Polysaccharides, Pomegranate Extract, Lycopene, Glutathione, Glutaredoxin, Superoxide Dismutase, Catalase, Propylene Glycol, Diazolidinyl Urea, Methylparaben, Propylparaben |
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Mon May 28, 2012 7:34 am |
DM, what is CHAS? And do you mean they changed the name of that 20% mix it yourself serum?
bullet875, there's also Neostrata Vitamin C capsules that are 10% Vitamin C. There's 30 capsules in a jar. I heard those were good too. (Would be good for travel ) But not sure what % of Vitamin C you were after. |
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Mon May 28, 2012 7:48 am |
| egyptiangoddess wrote: |
DM, what is CHAS? And do you mean they changed the name of that 20% mix it yourself serum?
bullet875, there's also Neostrata Vitamin C capsules that are 10% Vitamin C. There's 30 capsules in a jar. I heard those were good too. (Would be good for travel ) But not sure what % of Vitamin C you were after. |
EG the CHAS is what I posted the ingredients above for.
Antioxidant Serum with Glutaredoxin and SOD (CHAS)
The LAA serum from SA is so inexpensive and I have traveled with my DIY C serums all the time! |
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Mon May 28, 2012 10:03 am |
What does CHAS stand for though?  Is it an acronym?
If you say it's ok to travel with than it must be I'm not familiar with Vitamin C serums. I think with LAA you're just supposed to keep an eye on the color of the serum to ensure it hasn't gone bad right? Like if it's brown you shouldn't use it because oxidized Vitamin C is bad for your skin. |
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Mon May 28, 2012 10:08 am |
| egyptiangoddess wrote: |
What does CHAS stand for though? Is it an acronym?
If you say it's ok to travel with than it must be I'm not familiar with Vitamin C serums. I think with LAA you're just supposed to keep an eye on the color of the serum to ensure it hasn't gone bad right? Like if it's brown you shouldn't use it because oxidized Vitamin C is bad for your skin. |
I never actually knew what CHAS stood for to be honest! It is made with MAP derivative of Vitamin C.
I use my serums on hands chest wherever so I never have them long enough to worry about oxidation! That is the big benefit of DIY you can afford to use it anywhere and not spend a fortune! |
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Mon May 28, 2012 10:15 am |
| Ok thanks DM Yes that's what I love about DIY! You save money and do the most for your skin at the same time. It's a win-win! |
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Mon May 28, 2012 10:22 am |
| egyptiangoddess wrote: |
| Ok thanks DM Yes that's what I love about DIY! You save money and do the most for your skin at the same time. It's a win-win! |
Exactly EG!,
For those who don't have the inclination SA offers very reasonable options which do have very good actives/antioxidants!
Compared to most LAA or MAP serums on the market these are a huge bargain for those individuals!
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Tue May 29, 2012 4:10 am |
| I ordered the MAP serum also...and the Be Kind Rewind UV repair..want to see if that works because I'm tired of using 5+ products to try to keep my skin nice and get rid of dark spots! |
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Tue May 29, 2012 6:08 am |
| I know how you feel bullet875! I am currently in the process of lightening discoloration as well. I haven't seen that Be Kind Rewind UV repair product. Is it from Skinactives? |
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Tue May 29, 2012 6:35 am |
Yes. I'm new and can'r post a link but I'll tell you where to find it. It's called UV Repair Cream and its on page 6 of the ready to use product section. It has the following ingredients:
Water, jojoba (Simmondsia Chinensis) seed oil, rosehip (Rosa affinis rubiginosa) seed oil, shea (Butyrospermum parkii) butter, hydroxyethyl acrylate/sodium acryloyldimethyl taurate copolymer, squalane, polysorbate 60, sorbitol, butylene glycol, glyceryl stearate, cetyl alcohol, C14-22 alcohols, C12-20 alkyl glucoside, stearyl alcohol, sesame (Sesamum Indicum) seed oil, sweet almond (Prunus amygdalus dulcis) seed oil, avocado (Persea gratissima) seed oil, sea kelp bioferment (Lactobacillus/Macrocystis pyrifera ferment) , pomegranate (Punica granatum) seed oil, betulinic acid (from Betula alba extract), silymarin (from Silybum marianum, milk thistle) , tetrahydrocurcuminoids, mangosteen (Garcinia mangostana) extract, liquorice (Glycyrrhiza glabra) extract, beta glucan (from yeast), resveratrol, pterostilbene, Astragalus extract, green tea (Camellia sinensis) EGCG, green tea (Camellia sinensis ) caffeine, coenzyme Q10, Indian frankincense (Boswellia serrata ) extract, ceramides, sodium hyaluronate, (Santalum album) essential oil, astaxanthin (and) lycopene (and) alpha-D-tocopherol (and) tocotrienols (and) lutein (and) alpha lipoic acid, cholesteryl oleyl carbonate (and) cholesteryl nonanoate (and) cholesteryl chloride, sandalwood, citric acid, xanthan gum, potassium sorbate, phenoxyethanol, caprylyl glycol
http://www.skinactives.com/UV-Repair-Be-Kind-Rewind-Cream.html
I just started using Philosophy's Miracle Worker for Dark Spots (literally just today...lol) and I'd like to use this cream in conjunction with and as maintenance after the Philosophy (which is expensive. Hopefully the Philos. and the Vit C serum will fade the spots and the UV cream, Vit C serum, and sunscreen will keep them away! |
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