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Wed Dec 29, 2010 3:44 pm  |
I saw a segment on the Doctors Show yesterday and they talked about this cream saying it was good for removing age spots.
*They also demonstrated the AALS!! Aren't we ahead of them on that one?!
You can view the segment here - hopefully it's the right one. If not - look under Epidsodes>Synopsis>Age Spots for the info
http://www.thedoctorstv.com/videolib/init/2190 |
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Wed Dec 29, 2010 6:34 pm |
For some reason, this product reminds me of the Remergent DNA product.
Water (Aqua), Hydrogenated Polyisobutene, Saccharide Isomerate, Butyrospermum Parkii (Shea Butter), Pentylene Glycol, Dimethicone, Cyclopentasiloxane, Squalane, Evodia Rutaecarpa Fruit Extract, Micrococcus Lysate, Plankton Extract, Arabidopsis Extract, Ergothioneine, Algae Extract, Saccharomyces Ferment Lysate Filtrate, Cassia Alata Leaf Extract, Buddleja Davidii Extract, Pinus Pinaster, Avena Sativa (Oat) Kernel Extract, Panthenol, Allantoin, Bisabolol, Xylitylglucoside, Anhydroxylitol, Xylitol, Lecithin, Glycerin, Diglycerin, Polysorbate 60, Hydroxyethyl Acrylate, Ammonium Acryloyldimethyltaurate/VP Copolymer, Sodium Acryloyldimethyl Taurate Copolymer, Camphor, Butylene Glycol, Hexylene Glycol, Ethylhexylglycerin, Caprylyl Glycol, Phenoxyethanol. |
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Wed Dec 29, 2010 8:50 pm |
I didn't even look up the ingredients when I first posted this.
Did you see the before/after pics of that woman's arm showing the age spots disappearing. That's pretty impressive.
When I found the ingredients, most websites mentioned copper peptides as being in it.
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| Ingredients: Water (Aqua), Cyclopentasiloxane, Petrolatum, Polysilicone-11, Glyceryl Stearate, PEG-100 Stearate, Phenyl Trimethicone, Glycerin, Dimethicone, Hydrogenated Polyisobutene, Butylene Glycol, Cetearyl Alcohol, Sodium Acrylate/Acryloyldimethyl Taurate Copolymer, Isohexadecane, Polysorbate 80, Gossypium Hirsutum (Cotton) Extract, Sodium PCA Betaine, Sorbitol, Glycine, Alanine, Proline, Serine, Threonine, Arginine, Lysine, Glutamic Acid, Alanine/Histidine/Lysine Polypeptide Copper HCI, Allantoin, Ceteareth-20, Polysorbate 60, Vitamin E Acetate, Panthenol, Camellia Oleifera Leaf Extract, Aloe Barbadensis Leaf Juice, Laminaria Digitata Extract, Soluble Collagen, Xanthan Gum, Phenoxyethanol, Methylparaben, Propylparaben, Trisodium EDTA, Fragrance. |
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Wed Dec 29, 2010 9:01 pm |
Is this the same one?
Neova DNA Total Repair 1.7 oz/50 ml
http://www.midwestskincare.com/Neova-DNA-Total-Repair/-p8230473.html/rid/126159
Ingredients: Hydrogenated Polysobutene, Saccharide Isomerate, Shea Butter, Dimethicone, Squalane, Evodia Rutaecarpa Fruit Extract, Micrococcus Lysate, Plankton Extract, Arabidopsis Exract, Ergothioneine, Algae Extract, Cassia Alata Leaf Extract, Buddleja Davidii Extract, Pinus Pinaster, Oat Kernal Extract, Panthenol, Allantoin, Bisabolol,
Xylitol, Lecithin, Glycerin, Camphor, etc.
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Wed Dec 29, 2010 9:14 pm |
Or this one doesn't have ect. as an ingredient! 
http://www.dermatologistskincare.com/displayProducts.asp?criteria=28309
Water (Aqua), Hydrogenated Polyisobutene, Saccharide Isomerate, Butyrospermum Parkii (Shea Butter), Pentylene Glycol, Dimethicone, Cyclopentasiloxane, Squalane, Evodia Rutaecarpa Fruit Extract, Micrococcus Lysate, Plankton Extract, Arabidopsis Extract, Ergothioneine, Algae Extract, Saccharomyces Ferment Lysate Filtrate, Cassia Alata Leaf Extract, Buddleja Davidii Extract, Pinus Pinaster, Avena Sativa (Oat) Kernel Extract, Panthenol, Allantoin, Bisabolol, Xylitylglucoside, Anhydroxylitol, Xylitol, Lecithin, Glycerin, Diglycerin, Polysorbate 60, Hydroxyethyl Acrylate, Ammonium Acryloyldimethyltaurate/VP Copolymer, Sodium Acryloyldimethyl Taurate Copolymer, Camphor, Butylene Glycol, Hexylene Glycol, Ethylhexylglycerin, Caprylyl Glycol, Phenoxyethanol. |
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Wed Dec 29, 2010 9:42 pm |
| DM, that is the ingredient list I posted above. Foxe looks like she got her ingredient list from the office site for the products, which is the one I would trust the most! |
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Wed Dec 29, 2010 9:43 pm |
| foxe wrote: |
Did you see the before/after pics of that woman's arm showing the age spots disappearing. That's pretty impressive.
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I did see the before and after and thought it was very impressive for just a few short weeks! |
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Wed Dec 29, 2010 9:50 pm |
Neova appears to make 2 different DNA Repair products. The first is DNA Total Repair, which retails for $95.00 for 1.7 oz. I believe this is the product that was shown in The Doctors TV video that Foxe linked to above. It does not contain any copper peptides. The ingredients are:
Water (Aqua), Hydrogenated Polyisobutene, Saccharide Isomerate, Butyrospermum Parkii (Shea Butter), Pentylene Glycol, Dimethicone, Cyclopentasiloxane, Squalane, Evodia Rutaecarpa Fruit Extract, Micrococcus Lysate, Plankton Extract, Arabidopsis Extract, Ergothioneine, Algae Extract, Saccharomyces Ferment Lysate Filtrate, Cassia Alata Leaf Extract, Buddleja Davidii Extract, Pinus Pinaster, Avena Sativa (Oat) Kernel Extract, Panthenol, Allantoin, Bisabolol, Xylitylglucoside, Anhydroxylitol, Xylitol, Lecithin, Glycerin, Diglycerin, Polysorbate 60, Hydroxyethyl Acrylate, Ammonium Acryloyldimethyltaurate/VP Copolymer, Sodium Acryloyldimethyl Taurate Copolymer, Camphor, Butylene Glycol, Hexylene Glycol, Ethylhexylglycerin, Caprylyl Glycol, Phenoxyethanol.
Neova also makes DNA Repair Factor Nourishing Lotion; it retails for $80 for 1.7 oz. It does contain a copper peptide (highlighted below) in addition to:
Water (Aqua), Cyclopentasiloxane, Petrolatum, Polysilicone-11, Gossypium Hirsutum (Cotton) Extract, Glyceryl Stearate, PEG-100 Stearate, Phenyl Trimethicone, Glycerin, Dimethicone, Hydrogenated Polyisobutene, Butylene Glycol, Cetearyl Alcohol, Sodium Acrylate/Sodium Acryloyldimethyl Taurate Copolymer, Isohexadecane, Polysorbate 80, Cetyl Alcohol, Sodium PCA, Betaine, Sorbitol, Glycine, Alanine, Proline, Serine, Threonine, Arginine, Lysine, Glutamic Acid, Alanine/Histidine/Lysine Polypeptide Copper HCl, Allantoin, Ceteareth-20, Polysorbate 60, Tocopheryl Acetate, Panthenol, Camellia Oleifera Leaf Extract, Aloe Barbadensis Leaf Juice, Laminaria Digitata Extract, Soluble Collagen, Xanthan Gum, Phenoxyethanol, Caprylyl Glycol, Ethylhexylglycerin, Hexylene Glycol, Trisodium EDTA, Fragrance (Parfum), Benzyl Salicylate, Butylphenyl Methylpropional, Hexyl Cinnamal, Linalool.
Neova products are made by ProCyte. I found the information for my post here:
http://www.dermatologistskincare.com/displayProducts.asp?DisplayType=MFG&Criteria=Neova&lowerPriceRange=0&upperPriceRange=2000&sortResults=name&aOrD=ASC&selSortResults=8 |
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Wed Dec 29, 2010 9:59 pm |
| rileygirl wrote: |
| DM, that is the ingredient list I posted above. Foxe looks like she got her ingredient list from the office site for the products, which is the one I would trust the most! |
The first one I posted is cheaper at that site than the second one. It was where are the CP's that had me wondering about the correct ingredients, but I see Lacy posted that correction.
The second site has this under the product listed, so I have to assume the one used on the show doesn't contain any copper peptides?
NEOVA DNA Total Repair as seen on The Doctors
NEW! DNA Total Repair offers the most advanced and powerful therapeutic intervention for UV-induced DNA damage. Formulated with three repair enzymes -Photolysomes, Endosomes and Mitosomes-all liposome encapsulated- the liposome delivery system has been specifically engineered for the transference of DNA repair enzymes across the stratum corneum and into the epidermal cells to enhance DNA repair of
UV irradiated skin.
Damaged DNA triggers a cascade of events, starting with stress signals and advancing through the stages of DNA damage. These events are repeated with each sun exposure, whether or not sunburn forms. After decades of similar damage-and-response cycles, discolorations, wrinkles and other signs of photodamage develop; therefore, repair and removal of sun-induced DNA damage is key for defense.
• Speeds recovery from previous sun-inflicted DNA damage.
• Intensifies the skin’s ability to self-correct to resist future photodamage.
• Diminishes the visible signs of DNA damage, such as fine lines, wrinkles and discolorations.
• Reduces the appearance of post-sunburn peeling. |
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Thu Dec 30, 2010 7:15 am |
| I need to dig for the Remergent DNA to get the ingredients, but I would almost swear this is a dupe for Remergent! |
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Thu Dec 30, 2010 7:17 am |
| DM - I didn't see the blurp you posted. This sounds like it would be really good for damaged decollete's. Mine has really improved from CPs, but I would like something that works faster. |
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Thu Dec 30, 2010 7:19 am |
| rileygirl wrote: |
| I need to dig for the Remergent DNA to get the ingredients, but I would almost swear this is a dupe for Remergent! |
Have you used the Remergent product? What does that one do? |
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Thu Dec 30, 2010 7:23 am |
| foxe wrote: |
| rileygirl wrote: |
| I need to dig for the Remergent DNA to get the ingredients, but I would almost swear this is a dupe for Remergent! |
Have you used the Remergent product? What does that one do? |
Sorry, not really. I bought it when it was the "it" product, but I think I only used it a month or so and it didn't do anything. However, I was using it on my face, and not on my neck/chest, which may have had some result from it. I could be way off base here with my comment, so I will try to find the ingredients to Remergent and post them in this thread, just to see if they are similar or not! |
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Thu Dec 30, 2010 7:24 am |
| foxe wrote: |
| rileygirl wrote: |
| I need to dig for the Remergent DNA to get the ingredients, but I would almost swear this is a dupe for Remergent! |
Have you used the Remergent product? What does that one do? |
Maybe in all of these?
http://www.essentialdayspa.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=12373
Here they are!!
Antioxidant Refoliator
Water,Isocetyl Sterate,Cyclopentasiloxane,
Squalane,C20-22 Alkyl Phosphate and C20-22 Alcohols,Glycerin,Glycine Soja (Soybean)Oil,Cetyl Alcohol,Hydrogenated Coco-Glycerides,1,2 Hexanediol,Arabidposis Extract,Caprylyl Glycol,D-L alpha Tocopherol,Disodium EDTA,Ergothioneine,Isohexadecane,Lecithin,Linoleic Acid,Phenoxyethanol,Polysorbate 80,Sodium Acrylate/Acryloyldimethyl Taurate Copolymer,Sodium Hydroxide,Tetrahexyldecyl Ascorbate.
Barrier Repair Formula
Water,,Glycerin,Dimethicone, Santalum Album (Sandalwood) Wood Extract (and) Phellodendrom Amurense Bark Extract (and) Hordeum Distichon (Barley) Extract,Cetyl Alcohol,Polyacrylamide (and) C13-14 Isoparaffin (and) Laureth-7,Hydrogenated Coco-Glycerides,Acrylates/C10-C30 Alkyl Acrylate Crosspolymer,Butylene Glycol, 1,2 Hexanediol,Caprylyl Glycol,Cetearyl Alcohol,Disodium EDTA ,Ergothioneine,Evodia Rutaecarpa Fruit Extract,Glyceryl Stearate SE,Lecithin,Phenoxyethanol,Polysorbate 20, Polysorbate 60,Retinol,Rosemary Extract,Sodium Hydroxide,Steareth-2,Steareth-21.
Clarifying Concentrate
Water,Neopentyl Glycol Diheptanoate,Glyceryl Sterate (and) PEG-100 Stearate,Simmondsia Chinensis (jojoba) Butter,Hydrogenated Polyisobutene,Butylene Glycol,Cetyl Alcohol,Cetearyl Alcohol (and) Ceteareth-20,Ergothioneine,1,2 Hexanediol,Caprylyl Glycol,Disodium EDTA,Magnesium Aluminum Silicate,Phenoxyethanol,Stearic Acid,Stearyl Alcohol,Tetrahexyldecyl Ascorbate.
DNA Repair Formula
Water,Santalum Album (Sandalwood) Extract (and) Phellodendrom Amurense Bark Extract (and) Hordeum Distichon (Barley) Extract,Cyclopentasiloxane,Glycerin,Pentylene Glycol,Hydroxyethyl Acrylate (and) Sodium Acryloyldimethyl Taurate Copolymer (and) Squalane (and) Polysorbate 60,Polysorbate 40,
Acrylates/C10-C30 Alkyl Acrylate Crosspolymer,
Arabidposis Extract,Butylene Glycol,Caprylyl Glycol,Disodium EDTA,Ergothioneine,Ethylhexylglycerin,Evodia Rutaecarpa Fruit Extract,Hexylene Glycol,Lecithin,Micrococcus Lysate,Phenoxyethanol,Plankton Extract,Sodium Hydroxide
Microcirculation Therapy
Water,Ethylene/Acrylic Acid Copolymer,Pentylene Glycol,C20-22 Alkyl Phosphate (and) C20-C22 Alcohols,Ethylhexyl Ethylhexanoate,Isocetyl Sterate,Stearic Acid,
Glycerin (and) Sodium Polyacrylate (and) PVM/MA,Squalane,Phenyl Trimethicone,Cetyl Esters,1,2-Hexanediol,Acrylates/C10-C30 Alkyl Acrylate Crosspolymer,Butylene Glycol,Camphanediol,Caprylyl Glycol,Dimethicone,Disodium EDTA,Evodia Rutaecarpa Fruit Extract,Isododecane,Laureth-4,Mangifera Indica (Mango) Seed Butter,Phenoxyethanol,Pinanediol,Polyacrylate-13,Polyisobutene,Polysorbate-20,Sodium Hydroxide,Tetrahexyldecyl Ascorbate,Tocopheryl Acetate.
AM Moisture SPF-15
water,C12-15 alkyl benzoate,diethylhexyl 2,6-napthalate,cetearyl alcohol,glycerin,phenoxyethanol,dimethicone,arachidyl alcohol,arachidyl glucoside,behenyl alcohol,C13-14 isoparaffin,caprylyl glycol,cetearyl glucoside,disodium EDTA,ethylhexylglycerin,hexylene glycol,laureth-7,lecithin,micrococcus lysate,
plankton extract,polyacrylamide,steareth-2,
steareth-21,potassium sorbate,sodium dehydroacetate,tetrahexyldecyl ascorbate,
tocopheryl acetate.
High Intensity SPF-30
water,C12-15 alkyl benzoate,cetearyl alcohol,glycerin,phenoxyethanol,arachidyl alcohol,alumina,arachidyl glucoside,behenyl alcohol,caprylyl glycol,cetearyl glucoside,disodium EDTA,ethylhexylglycerin,
hexylene glycol,isopropyl titanium triisostearate/triethoxycaprylylsilane crosspolymer,lecithin,micrococcus lysate,
plankton extract,polyhydroxystearic acid,
sodium dehydroacetate,steareth-2,steareth-21, triethoxycaprylylsilane, tocopheryl acetate,
tetrahexyldecyl ascorbate, xanthan gum. |
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Thu Dec 30, 2010 7:36 am |
| Thanks for finding them, DM. It was the DNA repair ingredients that you listed above that I was thinking of. Looks like I am wrong. They don't look similar according to those ingredients! |
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Thu Dec 30, 2010 8:45 am |
| rileygirl wrote: |
| Thanks for finding them, DM. It was the DNA repair ingredients that you listed above that I was thinking of. Looks like I am wrong. They don't look similar according to those ingredients! |
TigerTim gave her review on the products after a sample kit and TheresaL actually emailed the company and asked for the full ingredient list that she then posted! Glad I could find it! |
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Thu Dec 30, 2010 8:50 am |
| foxe wrote: |
| DM - I didn't see the blurp you posted. This sounds like it would be really good for damaged decollete's. Mine has really improved from CPs, but I would like something that works faster. |
foxe,
Hopefully the site is not using the clip from the show just for marketing? I can't be certain if they used the product listed or the one Lacy posted which has the CP's??? 
I think it's 89$ on my first link and 95$ on the second but I didn't compare shipping. |
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Thu Dec 30, 2010 11:07 am |
This is what SkincareRx says about it (and they charge $94.10)
Photolysomes are encapsulated Photolyase, derived from Plankton, that undoes damage to DNA in cells and prevents cell death caused by UV rays. Endosomes is an encapsulated extract from the marine microbe that intensifies the skin's ability to repair sun damage. Evodia Fruit reduces inflammation and soothes the skin.
I'm still impressed with that large sun spot disappearing from the woman's arm in just 2 wks. Would love to hear anyone else's results too. It's a pricey cream |
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Thu Dec 30, 2010 11:30 am |
| DarkMoon wrote: |
| foxe wrote: |
| DM - I didn't see the blurp you posted. This sounds like it would be really good for damaged decollete's. Mine has really improved from CPs, but I would like something that works faster. |
foxe,
Hopefully the site is not using the clip from the show just for marketing? I can't be certain if they used the product listed or the one Lacy posted which has the CP's???
I think it's 89$ on my first link and 95$ on the second but I didn't compare shipping. |
The product used in the video clip is definitely the DNA Total Repair without the Copper Peptides. I watched the video on full screen and could read the label on the bottle clearly. The only reason I listed prices was to give people some idea of the cost and quantity; it isn't all that expensive compared to some products discussed at EDS and contains 1.7 ounces, not just a full ounce (50 mL vs the usual 30 mL). I am sure you can find it for less elsewhere if you search around!
Of course the retailer is using the clip "just for marketing" ... isn't that what The Doctors is for? Sorry for the pessimism! 
The woman in the video used the product for only a couple of weeks; I was impressed with the results based on that short time frame. Foxe, there are a few reviews for the product on the website I linked to; overall rating is 3 out of 5. |
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Thu Dec 30, 2010 11:44 am |
| I just meant deceptive marketing as in putting that information "as seen on "The Doctors" under the one product if the other had been used on the show. I couldn't see the container clearly on the iPhone. |
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Tue Jun 11, 2013 3:49 pm |
I know a lot about this topic..
When your skin is exposed to sunlight, it damages the DNA which can be mutagenic and cause skin cancer and photoaging (products are released that break down the collagen in the skin..leading to wrinkles etc). Luckily, our body has natural defenses which uses special DNA repair enzymes (via the Nucleotide Enzyme Repair mechanism) to take out the damaged DNA and essentially "fix" the mistake caused by the UV ray damage. This process is not very efficient (it takes around 24 hrs to repair 50% of the damage) which is why we still get sun damage.
There are other enzymes from bacteria and plants that are very efficient at this process. In clinical trials, these enzymes were put in a special transporter known as a liposome, which is also used to deliver vaccines/antifungals etc. These liposomes were put in creams and applied topically and absorbed into the first layer of the skin (epidermis) and actually were able to enhance DNA repair! It also showed less formation of products that break down collagen. (Look at the work of these DNA repair enzymes with patients who suffer from Xerodoma Pigmentosum).
So basically, if applied with sun screen, this DNA repairing enzyme cream can actively help your body repair the DNA as it is being damaged by UV rays leading to less damage/photoaging in the long run.
With that being said, as in reference to the Doctors episode, sun spots are a result of OLD sun damage and I highly doubt that these enzymes can "fix what is already broken". It is, however, a great preventative measure.
Also, antioxidants are good for your skin (some of the bad products produced in the skin cells from the sun damage the DNA and the antioxidants absorb these free radicals)...but they are pretty much in most face care products already and nothing "new". |
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