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Sat Jun 09, 2012 11:34 pm  |
| Whenever I get injections in my jaw for reduction I always break out afterwards. I have read that Botox is meant to reduce acne but am convinced that it gives me acne. Anyone else find this? |
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Sun Jun 10, 2012 5:55 am |
| I've never heard of Botox being used for either jaw reduction or as an acne treatment. |
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Sun Jun 10, 2012 8:30 am |
I've heard of Botox being used for a jaw reducation and also for people who suffer from TMJ disorder because it relaxes the jaw muscles.
I have never heard that it is meant for an acne treatment, but it could be that you have sensitive and irritable skin. I sometimes breakout after going to the dentist because their hands/gloves touch my chin area while I'm there. |
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Sun Jun 10, 2012 8:47 am |
http://www.medicalnewstoday .com/releases/154977.php
This is one of the first pages I found on botox and acne when I typed it in to a search engine.
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| it could be that you have sensitive and irritable skin. I sometimes breakout after going to the dentist because their hands/gloves touch my chin area while I'm there. |
Amen to that BellaKai. My skin is extremely sensitive to everything. My body too. If I eat one of the many things that does not agree with me it is bound to show up on my skin. Breaking out after the dentist touches your chin area sounds like major sensitivity too. Do you think you are allergic to his gloves or something?
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| I've never heard of Botox being used for either jaw reduction |
Yep as BellaKai said it is often used to treat people who have TMJ disorder. I use it because I naturally have a square face and desire a rounder one. Am very pleased with the results so far. I can have my hair down now and not worry about the lack of volume at the roots emphasising my jaw squareness. It has really been a blessing for me  |
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Sun Jun 10, 2012 9:25 am |
Yes, I think I could be allergic to latex, but how does one find out if they are for sure? I really dread going to the dentist because it seems like every time I go, I breakout.  And I have to go this week. |
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Sun Jun 10, 2012 5:22 pm |
I've heard of people being treated with Botox for TMJ - it relaxes the muscles to release the tension in the jaw in the same way that Botox works on treating migraines. But how does it change the shape of the face. There may be a slight lift from injecting the muscles around the jawline - but if it really changed the shape of people's faces, wouldn't it be used instead of a face lift?
I've also heard of Botox being used to fix acne scars - because it tends to smooth out the skin (it also makes pores look smaller). But here's some information on a doctor that's using it to cure acne.
http://www.healthyskinportal.com/articles/botox-acne-treatment/88/ |
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Mon Jun 11, 2012 5:51 am |
Never had a breakout from botox ever in all the years I have done it!
I do use botox on the jaw for TMJ and have for 10 years, works very well but it has not reduced my jawline in any way. If it did, I would not have it done. But I only get 10 units total there, 5 on either side. |
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Joined the 50 club several years back, blonde w/ fair/sensitive skin, Texas humidity and prone to rosacea, light breakouts and sunburns, combo skin type, starting to see sundamage and fine lines |
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Tue Jun 12, 2012 12:12 am |
Bella Kai, I would get a friend to muscle test you while you are touching some type of latex. Look up "Kinesiology muscle testing" on you tube if you want to know how this done.
Other than that I guess it is just a process of observation and elimination. You could try wearing rubber gloves and see how your hands react. I found out I was allergic to latex recently after I had really bad excema on my hands. After eliminating a number of things I realised it was washing up gloves which was causing it. However I do think the very root cause is probably stress. I have been stressed lately which has def made me more sensitive to things. Always good to look at the psychological aspects when treating intolerances
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| I've heard of people being treated with Botox for TMJ - it relaxes the muscles to release the tension in the jaw in the same way that Botox works on treating migraines. But how does it change the shape of the face. There may be a slight lift from injecting the muscles around the jawline - but if it really changed the shape of people's faces, wouldn't it be used instead of a face lift? |
Basically the botox is injected deep into the masseter muscle (jaw muscle). This paralyses the nerves and so stops the muscle from working. Then in about a weeks time because the masseter has not been used it starts to atrophy - to waste away. It is this shrinking of the masseter muscle which slims the jaw line. The results vary in how long they last but in general a person has a treatment the first two times every 3 months then in six months then in nine months and after that yearly. It is claimed that frequently doing this will permanently reduce the jaw line but am not sure if there is any evidence to back up this claim.
AnnieR really good that it works well for your TMJ. Have read that TMJ can be really painful so great that botox can help with this. Am not sure how many units I get. I think it is 2 syringes either side if this means anything? Some people may even get three either side but that is if they have really over pronounced jaw muscles. |
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Tue Jun 12, 2012 1:23 am |
| To test for allergies, the normal procedure is that the doctor places a patch test on your back which you have to wear for x amount of time (I forget how long). The patch test contains a selection of common irritants such as strawberries, bee, seafood, peanut, latex etc. etc. all of which are devided up into squares. When you go back to the doctor, he removes the patch and examines the skin to see which sample has caused irritation to the skin. I had this done years ago and found that I had an allergic reaction to latex - which is why I always had a rash around my bra line. |
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Tue Jun 12, 2012 1:27 am |
| It's a little worrying to think that the muscles of the face (after being injected by Botox) waste away. I have Botox regularly in my forehead but I thought that the muscles were being paralysed, not wasting away. Surely, if facial muscles are being wasted, the face will eventually colapse. My own experience is that after the Botox has worn off, my muscles still work perfectly well. |
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Tue Jun 12, 2012 2:32 am |
| It's a little worrying to think that the muscles of the face (after being injected by Botox) waste away. I have Botox regularly in my forehead but I thought that the muscles were being paralysed, not wasting away. Surely, if facial muscles are being wasted, the face will eventually colapse. My own experience is that after the Botox has worn off, my muscles still work perfectly well. |
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Tue Jun 12, 2012 5:32 am |
I know, I was thinking about that too! Mine haven't wasted away either in that darn glabellar area, bc after a while it goes right back!
I do more of a jaw clenching I guess, especially at night, so it works great for relaxing that jaw muscle for me. |
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Tue Jun 12, 2012 5:52 am |
To my way of thinking, the only way to change the shape of the jaw would be to pull the muscles tighter. This is what is usually done during a facelift - it's not just the skin which gets pulled up, but the muscles as well.
A slight eyebrow lift can be achieved with Botox but I'm still not convinced that the lower half of the face can be lifted by muscle atrophifation. |
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Tue Jun 12, 2012 11:06 am |
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| To test for allergies, the normal procedure is that the doctor places a patch test on your back which you have to wear for x amount of time (I forget how long). The patch test contains a selection of common irritants such as strawberries, bee, seafood, peanut, latex etc. etc. all of which are devided up into squares. When you go back to the doctor, he removes the patch and examines the skin to see which sample has caused irritation to the skin. I had this done years ago and found that I had an allergic reaction to latex - which is why I always had a rash around my bra line. |
That sounds a little more reliable than my suggested methods hehe
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| A slight eyebrow lift can be achieved with Botox but I'm still not convinced that the lower half of the face can be lifted by muscle atrophifation. |
As far as I know it just shrinks the muscle but I do not think it lifts the face. At least I have not noticed a lift. Would be good if it did though. |
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