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Wed Jun 13, 2012 5:21 am  |
Ugh...I hate having to re-write this post. I wrote a LOOOOOONG one yesterday evening, and then suddenly it disappeared because the site went into "routine maintainence." Dang!.....
I drove to Knoxville, TN yesterday to the YearsYounger Med Spa to see Dr Kevin Stamey, for the Vampire Face Lift (really just Plasma Rich Platelets, also known as PRP.) Dr S is a Medical Doc, not a Dermatologist or Plastic Surgeon, and I really liked his approach, which is more on the "natural" side. My face was prepped for 30 minutes with a heavy, sticky, numbing agent "made in a compounding pharmacy." I was completely numbed out...VERY strong stuff that took 5 hours to totally wear off. Anyway, ten minutes into that numbing period, a vial of blood was drawn, then taken in to "spin," to separate plasma and platelets. After 30 minutes, he brought in the vial, added an activator, and began injecting the areas of my face that I had previously expressed concern about: the orbital area around my eyes, nasolabial lines, area above upper lip, and around the corners of my mouth. I did not feel any pain, but could feel a little burning when he injected the areas around the corners of my mouth. He also injected my lips which gave them a nice little poofiness for a while!! The injections lasted around 10 minutes, then he ended the procedure with "La Pag." This involves dragging the needle across the whole face and injecting the platelets more superficially all over, kind of coating the face with the serum. He recommended leaving that on as long as possible, so I didn't wash my face until 8 hours later. I didn't look horrible after the injections, and loved the way the lines on my face were temporarily diminished and filled out. There was some redness around the injection sites but they are not visible today. Mostly I just have some puffiness under my eyes, and one tiny little bruise at the corner of my mouth. I've gone to work now, and no one has noticed anything. I was very diligent about taking Arnica for a few days before and eating a lot of pineapple too (bromelian) and I believe that really helped minimize bruising (because I am a big bruiser~!) The whole appt took 1 hour and 45 minutes and cost $325. They informed me that it will take 3 months to "see" the results. I'll keep ya'll posted! |
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Vehicle is a 1952 scratch and dent model....olive-ish, dry skin, long curly gray hair. Staples: Tazorac, 2mm Dermaroller, Anti Aging Light Stim, Devita Sunscreens, homemade C serums, some positive affirmations and whatever else it takes! Kicking and screaming the whole way... |
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Wed Jun 13, 2012 6:04 am |
what a pain having to write all that twice.
Sounds like a very interesting procedure. I am trying to visualize the needle dragging and thats the only bit that puts me off.
The price sounds good. I am sure when Tiny was talking about this before the prices quoted were higher. So sounds all in all like you got a great deal.
I am definitely interested in your long term results. Please do post how it looks when it settles down etc.
Ty for posting this. |
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Wed Jun 13, 2012 6:47 am |
| This sounds really interesting! |
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Wed Jun 13, 2012 7:24 am |
OMG I want to do this, but here I can't find it under 1500!!! I can't wait to here your results!
Bravo! |
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Wed Jun 13, 2012 7:49 am |
| Tiny wrote: |
OMG I want to do this, but here I can't find it under 1500!!! I can't wait to here your results!
Bravo! |
opps ment to add, and thank you so much for such a detailed review!! Sorry you had to do it twice |
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Wed Jun 13, 2012 9:00 am |
| loopylori wrote: |
what a pain having to write all that twice.
Sounds like a very interesting procedure. I am trying to visualize the needle dragging and thats the only bit that puts me off.
The price sounds good. I am sure when Tiny was talking about this before the prices quoted were higher. So sounds all in all like you got a great deal.
I am definitely interested in your long term results. Please do post how it looks when it settles down etc.
Ty for posting this. |
Yeah, I agree...the La Pag (pronouced very french) is weird. I was so numb I couldn't tell what he was doing and I still am a little confused by it, but I do see one small needle-drag mark on my cheek. I asked him to explain it a couple of times, and felt embarrassed to ask him again, when I didn't really "get it."  I tried to google La Pag but didn't find anything. This appartently is part of the technique they learn at Vampire Lift School  |
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Vehicle is a 1952 scratch and dent model....olive-ish, dry skin, long curly gray hair. Staples: Tazorac, 2mm Dermaroller, Anti Aging Light Stim, Devita Sunscreens, homemade C serums, some positive affirmations and whatever else it takes! Kicking and screaming the whole way... |
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Wed Jun 13, 2012 9:44 am |
| mountaingirl wrote: |
| loopylori wrote: |
what a pain having to write all that twice.
Sounds like a very interesting procedure. I am trying to visualize the needle dragging and thats the only bit that puts me off.
The price sounds good. I am sure when Tiny was talking about this before the prices quoted were higher. So sounds all in all like you got a great deal.
I am definitely interested in your long term results. Please do post how it looks when it settles down etc.
Ty for posting this. |
Yeah, I agree...the La Pag (pronouced very french) is weird. I was so numb I couldn't tell what he was doing and I still am a little confused by it, but I do see one small needle-drag mark on my cheek. I asked him to explain it a couple of times, and felt embarrassed to ask him again, when I didn't really "get it." I tried to google La Pag but didn't find anything. This appartently is part of the technique they learn at Vampire Lift School |
LOL@ Vampire Lift School MG! 
Congratulations, and thanks that is a very detailed review.
Please keep us posted on your results, I am fascinated by this.  |
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Wed Jun 13, 2012 9:49 am |
| Thanks for your report! A tv personality over here has had a vampire lift and some other work done and wrote about it. Very natural effect, she was very enthusiastic about the procedure. I hope you will post updates! It will take time to get the full results I understand, but what I saw from that tv personality it's definitely worth the wait! |
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Wed Jun 13, 2012 10:15 am |
Thanks for taking the time to re type that! Hate when that happens.
Sounds interesting, and very reasonably priced, something similiar is a lot dearer over here in Australia, about $1200 I believe for a full face.
Please keep us updated with your progress, thanks. |
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I'm 49, fair skin, green eyes, blonde hair, dry slightly sensitive skin, I have very few wrinkles, slight pigmentation, main worry is sagging..yuck!! Currently using CP |
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Wed Jun 13, 2012 11:31 am |
| Tiny wrote: |
OMG I want to do this, but here I can't find it under 1500!!! I can't wait to here your results!
Bravo! |
Where are you Tiny? |
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Vehicle is a 1952 scratch and dent model....olive-ish, dry skin, long curly gray hair. Staples: Tazorac, 2mm Dermaroller, Anti Aging Light Stim, Devita Sunscreens, homemade C serums, some positive affirmations and whatever else it takes! Kicking and screaming the whole way... |
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Wed Jun 13, 2012 11:35 am |
| mountaingirl wrote: |
| Tiny wrote: |
OMG I want to do this, but here I can't find it under 1500!!! I can't wait to here your results!
Bravo! |
Where are you Tiny? |
Texas, but I do have a car |
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Wed Jun 13, 2012 4:58 pm |
| V interested in your results MountainGirl! Please keep us up to date! |
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Wed Jun 13, 2012 5:17 pm |
| MG~ Thanks for your report, interesting. Did Dr.S say how long the results should last? |
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Wed Jun 13, 2012 6:30 pm |
| brierrose wrote: |
| MG~ Thanks for your report, interesting. Did Dr.S say how long the results should last? |
No....he didn't say how long the results would last, but I might just call his office tomorrow and ask that! |
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Vehicle is a 1952 scratch and dent model....olive-ish, dry skin, long curly gray hair. Staples: Tazorac, 2mm Dermaroller, Anti Aging Light Stim, Devita Sunscreens, homemade C serums, some positive affirmations and whatever else it takes! Kicking and screaming the whole way... |
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Wed Jun 13, 2012 6:32 pm |
| mountaingirl wrote: |
| brierrose wrote: |
| MG~ Thanks for your report, interesting. Did Dr.S say how long the results should last? |
No....he didn't say how long the results would last, but I might just call his office tomorrow and ask that! |
The La Prag, sounds like a smoothing treatment! I can't wait to hear your results! |
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Thu Jun 14, 2012 11:05 am |
| I'm not too far from you geographically! Good luck with your results. I've seen before and after pics of people who have had this done and it's like they just keep looking better and better. It's honestly amazing from what I've seen. It's so natural looking too! The new few months should be really exciting for you. |
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Thu Jun 14, 2012 11:21 am |
| The active ingredients in platelet rich plasma are cytokines and growth factors released from platelets. Why would the results with PRP (lysed platelet) injections be any different than deep needling plus targeted cytokine cocktails? Not sure how much PRP has been discussed around here. Interesting stuff. I'll start a new thread so as not to overwhelm this one. |
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Thu Jun 14, 2012 12:33 pm |
| DrJ wrote: |
| The active ingredients in platelet rich plasma are cytokines and growth factors released from platelets. Why would the results with PRP (lysed platelet) injections be any different than deep needling plus targeted cytokine cocktails? Not sure how much PRP has been discussed around here. Interesting stuff. I'll start a new thread so as not to overwhelm this one. |
I look forward to hearing your thoughts DrJ. I'm very interested in the comparison of PRP to deep rolling. The only difference my novice mind can conclude, is that the cytokines and growth factors in PRP would be more concentrated when injected in specific areas of the face (?) |
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Vehicle is a 1952 scratch and dent model....olive-ish, dry skin, long curly gray hair. Staples: Tazorac, 2mm Dermaroller, Anti Aging Light Stim, Devita Sunscreens, homemade C serums, some positive affirmations and whatever else it takes! Kicking and screaming the whole way... |
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Thu Jun 14, 2012 1:14 pm |
Mountaingirl,
how does your face feel today? Do you notice anything? I know it takes a bit of time, but any swelling, ect? |
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Thu Jun 14, 2012 2:29 pm |
| My face looks fine today...no sign I had anything done (especially when compared to dermarolling with a 2mm roller on day 2.) I do feel that my skin is a little plumped out from inflammation, and do still have a little puffiness under each eye, which can't be seen with my glasses on. I didn't get to call the Doc today, to ask, how long it would last...but I'm already thinking that I would like to do this again in about 6 months to keep the regeneration going! |
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Vehicle is a 1952 scratch and dent model....olive-ish, dry skin, long curly gray hair. Staples: Tazorac, 2mm Dermaroller, Anti Aging Light Stim, Devita Sunscreens, homemade C serums, some positive affirmations and whatever else it takes! Kicking and screaming the whole way... |
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Thu Jun 14, 2012 2:40 pm |
| mountaingirl wrote: |
| My face looks fine today...no sign I had anything done (especially when compared to dermarolling with a 2mm roller on day 2.) I do feel that my skin is a little plumped out from inflammation, and do still have a little puffiness under each eye, which can't be seen with my glasses on. I didn't get to call the Doc today, to ask, how long it would last...but I'm already thinking that I would like to do this again in about 6 months to keep the regeneration going! |
Glad you are recovering quickly. Did your physician recommend every 6 months? |
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Thu Jun 14, 2012 2:41 pm |
| mountaingirl wrote: |
| My face looks fine today...no sign I had anything done (especially when compared to dermarolling with a 2mm roller on day 2.) I do feel that my skin is a little plumped out from inflammation, and do still have a little puffiness under each eye, which can't be seen with my glasses on. I didn't get to call the Doc today, to ask, how long it would last...but I'm already thinking that I would like to do this again in about 6 months to keep the regeneration going! |
Thanks for the update! I think the swelling would be expected, lack of it, might concern me, that enough was NOT done lmao!! |
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Fri Jun 15, 2012 3:28 am |
There are other threads here about PRP.
http://www.essentialdayspa.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=34350
I had it done a couple of years ago. It cost me $850 for one syringe in Australia and I had two treatments in my neck (one syringe each time). Can't say it did a thing for me.
As far as effectiveness is concerned - the opinion of doctors appears to be divided. Many are skeptical. It certainly hasn't been accepted as a total winner by the majority of plastic surgeons. |
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Fri Jun 15, 2012 4:39 am |
| Keliu wrote: |
There are other threads here about PRP.
http://www.essentialdayspa.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=34350
I had it done a couple of years ago. It cost me $850 for one syringe in Australia and I had two treatments in my neck (one syringe each time). Can't say it did a thing for me.
As far as effectiveness is concerned - the opinion of doctors appears to be divided. Many are skeptical. It certainly hasn't been accepted as a total winner by the majority of plastic surgeons. |
Keliu, I remember you posting that you didn't get any results from the treatments you had. Since it was your neck and not your face, I am wondering if there are areas that are less responsive?? I suspect that most Plastic Surgeons would NOT want PRP to be effective. That would render them superfluous....  |
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Vehicle is a 1952 scratch and dent model....olive-ish, dry skin, long curly gray hair. Staples: Tazorac, 2mm Dermaroller, Anti Aging Light Stim, Devita Sunscreens, homemade C serums, some positive affirmations and whatever else it takes! Kicking and screaming the whole way... |
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Fri Jun 15, 2012 4:51 am |
| mountaingirl wrote: |
| I suspect that most Plastic Surgeons would NOT want PRP to be effective. That would render them superfluous.... |
Not really - they're making huge money out of Botox and fillers - PRP falls in the same category as that. I don't think it would ever be a solution for facial sagging.
I'm inclined to think that, like everything, you need to have numerous treatments to see real results. And at $850.00 a go, that isn't an option for me. If I were only paying $350.00, I definitely would have more treatments. |
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