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Thu Oct 25, 2012 11:05 pm |
My question below is in regards to this serum (posted by Kassy_A):
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1oz 15% Vitamin C Serum (3/18/10)
1 tsp L-Ascorbic Acid
2 tsp Distilled H20
1 tsp Jojoba Oil
1 tsp SKB (Don't use more than 1 tsp, it's too tacky!)
1 tsp Aloe Vera Gel (or just use 2 aloe and leave out the SKB)
1/8th tsp Vitamin E
1/8th tsp Ferulic Acid
1/2 tsp vodka
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My question is about the type of Vitamin E to use in the Vitamin CE+F Serum. I seen a few suggestions from others (mixed tocopherols/100% natural/ETC), but didn't come across anything concrete.
Maybe I'm making too big of a deal about Vitamin E type (maybe it doesn't matter much?).
I came across two Vitamin E products and was wanting to see if I could get an opinion on them.
Product 1: Hobe Naturals Vitamin E Oil (50,000IU) - (Ingredients: 100% Pure vitamin E oil, safflower oil, lemon oil)
Product 2: Solgar Liquid Vitamin E - (Ingredients: d-Alpha Tocopherol plus d-Beta, d-Delta and d-Gamma Tocopherols (EACH DROP = 20IU's))+(Other ingredients: Wheat germ oil, sunflower oil)
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If anyone has any other Vitamin E suggestions I will be happy to hear them or if anyone can refer me to a thread regarding Vitamin E types for "Vitamin CE+F" serums I will happily read it.
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Sat Dec 22, 2012 12:01 pm |
I know that alpha-tocopherol is the only form of vitamin E (there are 8 forms) that counts towards the RDA...but the other forms do have some but different forms of biological activity...for example, gamma-tocopherol is excellent for quenching nitrogen radicals in the brain.
I would probably guess that a mixture of R tocopherols and tocotrienols would be best...but I hoping that someone with more experience will chime in with info specific to topical application...
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_________________ 34 y.o. FlexEffect and massage. Love experimenting with DIY and botanical skin care products. Appreciate both hard science and natural approaches. Eat green smoothies + lots of raw fruit and veggies. |
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Sat Dec 22, 2012 12:27 pm |
All of the studies done (and also the patent held by the company that made this combo famous) were done with the alpha tocopherol at 1% ferulic acid at 0.5% and the l-ascorbic acid at 10% or over.
It probably won't hurt anything if you use the other forms of vitamin E in addition, but I'd use the alpha at at least 1% because that's the percentage it's been clinically tested at with this trio. There are even some people who swear by adding a low percentage of beta carotene to their c serums, but I've never tried this myself. I think Dr. Oz is the one who made that idea popular, but I'm not sure. |
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Sat Dec 22, 2012 5:53 pm |
Thanks for the reply back.
It's been a few months since I made the thread, however I still haven't bought anything in regards to the serum just yet
EDIT: Never mind. I found the proper vitamin e place of purchase. From makingcosmetics (Vitamin E (dl-alpha tocopherol)). |
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Sun Dec 23, 2012 5:24 am |
Kdvwest wrote: |
I found the proper vitamin e place of purchase. From makingcosmetics (Vitamin E (dl-alpha tocopherol)). |
There are people who argue that the d analogue is better than dl because it's completely natural, but I never had a problem with dl when I used it.
Not to drag the conversation out any further, but I thought I'd throw the idea out there in case somebody else reading had never seen it before. |
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Sun Dec 23, 2012 1:59 pm |
Couldn't find the regular non-DL version of alpha. Seems the only other route is with the d-tocopherol mixture (alpha-beta-delta-gamma).
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Not to drag the conversation out any further. |
Seems one of the hardest parts is sourcing the vitamin e. So drag it on as far as it can go ![Bad Grin](images/smiles/badgrin.gif) |
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Sun Dec 23, 2012 5:08 pm |
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I personally use locally purchased gel caps. But for some reason, none of the stores in my town can keep the same brands/sizes/types on the shelf for longer than a few months. It is SO frustrating, let me tell you!
I cave and get lotioncrafter's mixed tocopherols every now and then. But there's something about those individual gel capsules that just make me feel better. I mean, there's much less room for oxidation there. |
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Sun Dec 23, 2012 5:34 pm |
Chlorophyll wrote: |
All of the studies done (and also the patent held by the company that made this combo famous) were done with the alpha tocopherol at 1% ferulic acid at 0.5% and the l-ascorbic acid at 10% or over.
It probably won't hurt anything if you use the other forms of vitamin E in addition, but I'd use the alpha at at least 1% because that's the percentage it's been clinically tested at with this trio. There are even some people who swear by adding a low percentage of beta carotene to their c serums, but I've never tried this myself. I think Dr. Oz is the one who made that idea popular, but I'm not sure. |
Thank you, Chlorophyll! ![Smile](images/smiles/smile.gif) |
_________________ 34 y.o. FlexEffect and massage. Love experimenting with DIY and botanical skin care products. Appreciate both hard science and natural approaches. Eat green smoothies + lots of raw fruit and veggies. |
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