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Mon May 13, 2013 12:07 pm  |
I added dairy back to my diet last year after avoiding it for most of the last 20 years. I've been drinking milk daily and am wondering if I want to continue doing so. Although I do not seem to have an allergy to it, it does seem to be causing a phantom bloating and subtle weight gain that I don't like.
My reason for avoiding it in the 2000s was something called the blood type diet. Dairy is considered a less ideal protein source for my blood type which is O. I'm wondering if there are other blood type Os who are able to tolerate milk, or if it is a food you avoid. |
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Mon May 13, 2013 11:38 pm |
| I would use the milk to make yogurt instead. I ferment mine for 24 hours and it breaks down most of the lactose so it's easier to digest. That would probably take care of the bloating. The longer fermentation time also produces a higher probiotic content than commercial yogurt. You will never want store bought yogurt again after you make your own. |
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Tue May 14, 2013 11:07 am |
Type O and I love yogurt and cheese. I hated milk as a child unless it was chocolate milk. I make chocolate pudding, love Haagen Dazs. I gave up dairy about ten years ago and switched to soy. Just because. Then I was diagnosed hypothyroid so no more soy. Can't say I've noticed anything better or worse with all the changes.
Maybe you are lactose intolerant? Maybe switch to Lactaid and see if there is a difference. |
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Fri May 24, 2013 5:48 pm |
| It's not too bad. I'm a normal weight/BMI (19) for my height, and have never felt totally well off milk, so I will probably continue to drink. I tried Lactaid and like it; it has a kind of chalky sweet taste. |
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Sun May 26, 2013 2:01 pm |
| I bought Gwyneth Paltrow's new cookbook, It's All Good, and she mentioned switching from cow dairy to goat and sheep dairy due to her kids' allergy. I just went to Whole Foods and bought several different brands of goat and sheep yogurt to replace my cow Greek yogurt. I also bought goat gouda at Trader Joe's. Seems to me I usually get bloated and have mild indigestion after cow dairy. I need to compare. Unfortunately non-cow dairy is more expensive so I hope as more people demand it, the supply will increase and the price will go down. |
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Mon Jun 03, 2013 10:33 am |
| I LOVE sheep yogurt! No goat aftertaste, even better than cow yogurt. More protein and calcium, too. A little more expensive but worth it. If more of you bought it then there would be more competition in the marketplace and prices would drop. Don't take my word for it. Go to Whole Foods and get some! Mine is from Bellwether Farms in the beige container. Yummy! |
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Mon Jun 03, 2013 11:35 am |
Gretchen, I read somewhere that the breed of cows most affected by the A1 mutation are the Holsteins (which unfortunately is the majority of what is in America).
Would have to be tested to be sure but, apparently if you can find milk that is exclusively produced from a pure breed of Brown swiss, Guernsey, Ayrshire, or Jersey cow you actually have a chance of it not having that A1 mutation.
Also, like SoftSkin has mentioned about Sheep yogurt, I think the milk from Goats or Sheeps doesn't have this A1 mutation.
So, maybe you don't need to avoid all milk, you just have to find the right breed of cow or go with goat/sheep milk.
But do more research of course to be sure. |
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Mon Jun 03, 2013 4:28 pm |
| Interesting about the breed of cows. I think clotted cream comes from Jersey cows, which supposedly have the richest milk. I wonder if Whole Foods sells by breed? |
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Mon Jun 10, 2013 2:35 am |
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I added dairy back to my diet last year after avoiding it for most of the last 20 years. I've been drinking milk daily and am wondering if I want to continue doing so. Although I do not seem to have an allergy to it, it does seem to be causing a phantom bloating and subtle weight gain that I don't like.
My reason for avoiding it in the 2000s was something called the blood type diet. Dairy is considered a less ideal protein source for my blood type which is O. I'm wondering if there are other blood type Os who are able to tolerate milk, or if it is a food you avoid. |
Mmm it definitely sounds like you are intolerant to it. Blood type aside, most people do not possess the enzyme needed to digest milk. My mum is a blood type A and she does not tolerate it well either. I am a blood type O and I definitely do not tolerate milk, yoghurt or whey protein. Am not that great with cheese either but no where near as bad as milk.
My question to you would be why have you started drinking milk again? |
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Mon Jun 10, 2013 8:51 am |
I've gone back and forth for years, either totally dairy-free or just goat products or some kefir, and actually have not drank cow's milk regularly since June of 1990. I added back last year after reading many posts in the Ray Peat community that people are able to tolerate milk after fixing various health problems (leaky gut, hormonal imbalance etc.)
A1 beta-casein I've read is actually 20 something times worse than gluten. Australia has A2 milk; it would be great if something here shifted so we could get it also.... You know, like awareness.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJMUFavgh64
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QW4s6Ku0XAc |
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Tue Jun 18, 2013 10:59 am |
| I recently had a big dish of ice cream and didn't feel any different than I did before or during my dairy free period. I think the key is to alternate what you eat. |
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Tue Jun 18, 2013 6:32 pm |
I don't know much about the blood type diet. But my sister is type O and she eats dairy (mostly milk and cheese) every single day. She has several diet related chronic health issues, so there's probably some merit to it.
I personally don't consume much dairy because I think it's strange for adult mammals to consume it.
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