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Mon Dec 03, 2012 7:11 pm  |
| During my ventures with microcurrent I tried this and the current is Way too strong for what true microcurrent should be. I sent it back, something that strong doesn't meet the criteria for true microcurrent that works to build ATP. |
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Wed Dec 05, 2012 6:56 pm |
| Thanks, Toby! What is ATP? |
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Wed Dec 05, 2012 7:35 pm |
| havana8 wrote: |
| Thanks, Toby! What is ATP? |
Hi havana8, not Toby but ATP is
Microcurrent emits subtle electrical frequencies that mimic the body’s own electrical signals, thereby increasing the amount of ATP (Adenosine triphosphate, the chemical fuel of human cells) by as much as 500%. Such increased levels of ATP speed cellular metabolism. The results can be seen in improved skin tone and coloration, the reduction of fine lines and wrinkles, and the firming of sagging areas of the face. In other words, it can take those years off to look younger without surgery or downtime.
I did look at this microcurrent machine once when it was on sale somewhere (don't remember where) but it got really bad reviews. |
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Thu Dec 06, 2012 8:36 am |
Good information CookieD and I found some additional...
More about Cosmetic Microcurrent
Microcurrent is a low level of electrical current that mirrors the body’s own natural current, sub-sensory in most cases. Its proven and accepted properties and potential range in application – from wound healing , muscle rehabilitation, and macular degeneration of the eye to lymphodema — continue to assist medical practitioners with amazing results.
Most microcurrent applications and results, whether they are medical or esthetic rely on the same mechanisms of actions.
Muscle re–education is most related to the term “facial toning”. There is 32 different muscles of the face that are manipulated during the average microcurrent treatment.
The 1982 Cheng study proves that ATP levels were increased by 500% on tissue that was treated utilizing less then 500 Ua. The study also indicated that ATP levels plummeted and depleted when treated with more than 500 Ua (visible muscle contractions.)
True microcurrent uses less that 500 microamperes(Ua) and because of its low intensity cannot cause visible muscle contractions.
Bearing this study in mind, it is understandable why individuals who use EMS-type devises, such as some hand -held devices seen on TV that use as much as 5000 Ua do receive some instant tone, however, when used cumulatively, create flaccid and lifeless muscles that are completely void of ATP.
The idea that ATP can be stockpiled or stored is the reason why microcurrent treatments results are cumulative and become better as a series of treatments progresses.
Aside from muscle re-education and massive increases in ATP levels, microcurrent has other proven benefits for esthetic applications. Emil Y Chi, PhD, director of the University Of Washington‘s department of pathology, performed clinical studies using microcurrent equipment. He notes,” The fact that technology works in harmony with the body is evident. Examination of the skin tissue treated with microcurrent showed a 45% increase in the number of elastin fibres in the dermis, and the length if the fibres on average doubled. The collagen thickness in the connective tissues increased 10%, And the numbers of blood vessels increased by 35%. The application of microcurrent to skin and tissue produced a firmer and tighter feeling on the skin surface.
Many of the studies detailing the massive increase in speed regarding wound healing refer to ATP as one of the attributing factors. The other attributing factor is an increase in blood circulation. Blood circulation has everything to do with the function, condition, color, and overall health of the skin, as underlying tissue.
Chi’s 2003 study performed at the University of Washington further notes a 35% increase In blood circulation Limphatic drainge is a very overlooked treatment in esthetics, although it has been gaining momentum in recent years. Clinical studies performed using microcurrent at Hong Kong’s Tuen Muen Hospital in 1988 indicated that Limphatic by 28% on post-cancer patients suffering from lymphodema.
Limphatic drainge is a very overlooked treatment in esthetics, although it has been gaining momentum in recent years. Clinical studies performed using microcurrent at Hong Kong’s Tuen Muen Hospital in 1988 indicated that Limphatic by 28% on post-cancer patients suffering from lymphodema.
Chi’s 1999 study also proved that the redness, irritation, and inflammation of surgically traumatized tissue could be decreased significantly when treated with microcurrent. Related to this, the buildup of hardened collagen that makes up scar tissue was noted to be 3 to 5 times less in tissue treated with microcurrent. Further studies also indicated an amazing dispersion of existing scar tissue when treated with microcurrent. This indicates that in the realm of plastic surgery, you can see the obvious place for microcurrent technology. By administering a series of treatments before surgery, muscle and tissue condition is maximized, inclusive of an excessive storage of ATP. Microcurrent treatment of sutures and trauma post-op decreases the down time by reducing inflammation, redness and irritation, while enhancing the healing ability and minimizing scar tissue. Post-surgery treatments also are vital to maintain the results of the surgical work.
In terms of product penetration, microcurrent offers specific Iontophoresis that allows superior penetration of water based products into the skin. The idea that the electrical current emits from one probe and returns to the other allows specific focus on products penetration, Chi’s 1999 study also proved that the redness, irritation and inflammation of surgically traumatized tissue could be decreased significantly when treated with microcurrent.
Related to this, the buildup of hardened collagen that makes up scar tissue was noted to be three times less in tissue treated with microcurrent. Further studies also indicated an amazing dispersion of existing scars when treated with microcurrent. This indicates that in the realm of plastic surgery you can see the obvious place for microcurrent technology. By administering a series of treatments before surgery, muscle and tissue condition is maximized, inclusive of an excessive storage of ATP. Microcurrent treatment of sutures and trauma post-op decreases the down time by reducing inflammation, redness and irritation, while enhancing the healing ability and minimizing scar tissue. Post- surgery treatments also are vital to maintain the results of the surgical work.
http://www.chiro950.com/pdf/ntarticle.pdf |
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Thu Dec 06, 2012 6:13 pm |
| Thanks Toby. Particularly interested to discover that micro current helps with scarring. Useful information indeed. |
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Fri Dec 07, 2012 1:11 am |
Thanks for the great information Toby. After reading the paragraph below, I wonder if facial exercises are depleting our ATP. Can the contractions from facial exercise and an EMS device be compared?
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The 1982 Cheng study proves that ATP levels were increased by 500% on tissue that was treated utilizing less then 500 Ua. The study also indicated that ATP levels plummeted and depleted when treated with more than 500 Ua (visible muscle contractions.)
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Fri Dec 07, 2012 9:11 pm |
| packratmack wrote: |
Thanks for the great information Toby. After reading the paragraph below, I wonder if facial exercises are depleting our ATP. Can the contractions from facial exercise and an EMS device be compared?
| Toby wrote: |
The 1982 Cheng study proves that ATP levels were increased by 500% on tissue that was treated utilizing less then 500 Ua. The study also indicated that ATP levels plummeted and depleted when treated with more than 500 Ua (visible muscle contractions.)
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I do not know the answer but I will tell you that although facial ex. lift I ended up with neck cords showing, gauntness under the cheeks and mouth pouches. Since I have switched to low level microcurrent I have the plumpness back in my face, no showing neck cords, and there is a nice lift |
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Fri Dec 07, 2012 11:05 pm |
| Toby wrote: |
I do not know the answer but I will tell you that although facial ex. lift I ended up with neck cords showing, gauntness under the cheeks and mouth pouches. Since I have switched to low level microcurrent I have the plumpness back in my face, no showing neck cords, and there is a nice lift |
Hi Toby, I'm sorry to hear about that. I've had the opposite experience with facial exercises. Those exact same areas have improved for me. Although, I did have some gauntness when I exercised the buccinators too much. Micro current sounds so promising. I am glad it is working for you. Sorry if this is off topic.  |
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Sun Dec 09, 2012 9:42 am |
| There was a thread on this, I ordered it when they first came out with it, never got to try it, each side takes a battery and the battery connector broke when I put the battery in, LOL. I just returned, decided if it broke before I ever used it, then it would def break down the road. My take, it was NOT made very well. |
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Sun Dec 09, 2012 2:18 pm |
Serious Skin Care just jumped on the microcurrent bandwagon by slapping their name on an old discontinued product from Babyliss.
BaByliss 8305 Facial Toning System - the exact same unit. Reviews go back to 2004.
From my understanding, this is also one that you can most definitely feel (painful), so that's not true micrcurrent. I'm very happy with my Nuface Trinity. |
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Sun Dec 09, 2012 2:43 pm |
| RyanA wrote: |
Serious Skin Care just jumped on the microcurrent bandwagon by slapping their name on an old discontinued product from Babyliss.
BaByliss 8305 Facial Toning System - the exact same unit. Reviews go back to 2004.
From my understanding, this is also one that you can most definitely feel (painful), so that's not true micrcurrent. I'm very happy with my Nuface Trinity. |
wow good work Ryan...who knew! I do remember ss one does have adjustable settings, so its not full blast unless you wanted that. |
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Sun Dec 09, 2012 5:05 pm |
I received this as a gift from a girlfriend who has been raving about her unit.
I have to say that I really like it. It just takes one battery. I've been using every night for almost 3 weeks for 10-15 minutes. I like to keep mine around three on the intensity scale because I don't want to stress the muscles.
I did hike it up to the top of the intensity range to see what it felt like and Wow...that thing has some powerful voltage.
Thankfully, I don't have any sagging issues (been doing facial exercises for years) but I feel that there is something going on. My neck looks nice and taut and my two neck rings are getting fainter. |
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Sun Dec 09, 2012 6:22 pm |
| I have one and also like it especially for my neck area I keep it at a very low setting but sometimes increase while doing around the eyes. |
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Sun Dec 09, 2012 8:02 pm |
| I wanted to add that more than likely I will get a micro current machine and use this for quick touch ups or when traveling |
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Mon Dec 10, 2012 4:04 pm |
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| I wanted to add that more than likely I will get a micro current machine and use this for quick touch ups or when traveling |
If you like this one, why would you get a diff one? Pros/cons? just curious, my experience with it was a faulty battery connector, so I have no idea how it works.
TIA |
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Mon Dec 10, 2012 6:08 pm |
"If you like this one, why would you get a diff one? Pros/cons? just curious, my experience with it was a faulty battery connector, so I have no idea how it works."
For one thing~ I was still very confused about the difference in microcurrent when I got it, plus being hooked on home treatment devices, want a machine so I can use the gloves. One big plus is I can use it in place of facial exercises. I've seen some mentioned having problems with the battery wire but knock on wood, I've not had any issues with it. |
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Tue Dec 11, 2012 1:48 pm |
| Angelfire wrote: |
"If you like this one, why would you get a diff one? Pros/cons? just curious, my experience with it was a faulty battery connector, so I have no idea how it works."
For one thing~ I was still very confused about the difference in microcurrent when I got it, plus being hooked on home treatment devices, want a machine so I can use the gloves. One big plus is I can use it in place of facial exercises. I've seen some mentioned having problems with the battery wire but knock on wood, I've not had any issues with it. |
well thats partly why I asked...I too am confused on this current stuff. Those with the glove one loveeeeeeeeeeeee it! |
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Tue Dec 11, 2012 2:39 pm |
I know just how you feel. If I knew then what I know now, to be honest, I would not have bought half the items in my arsenal. So much of the advertisements and commercials are misleading and deceptive. I used it today on a frown line I have between my eyes ( I need to get them checked) and withing a few minutes it was gone. My problem is being more consistent when using any device, because they certainly don't work collecting dust.  |
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Tue Dec 11, 2012 5:58 pm |
| so is this microcurrent or not? Thanks |
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Tue Dec 11, 2012 9:05 pm |
| Well according to the post in different discussions on microcurrent, I will say no since it does cause the muscles to contract |
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Wed Dec 26, 2012 10:35 pm |
| Tija wrote: |
Does anyone have the Serious Skin Care Microcurrent and think it's worth buying?
Does anyone *also* have the Tua Viso ? I am wondering which one is better? My Tua Viso is getting pretty old, just wondering if there is anything better out there !
Thanks in Advance! |
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