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Fri Jan 04, 2013 5:50 am  |
Do you have any plans to change your current regimin? Any plans to try new devices or topicals or oral supplements?
Any successes to report from 2012?
My own plans:
I am going to continue my current topical regimin but consider purchasing a motorized needling device to replace my manual rollers. I am always looking at other at-home devices for skin rejuvenation, eg. lasers, penetration enhancement devices, etc. but have yet to become aware of anything with independent studies to back it up...if you are aware of any, please let us know.
Each January I do a "state of my skin" analysis, lol...to mark the anniversary of when I first started caring for my skin in earnest - 2006. I am happy to report that in these past 7 years, I have not developed one new wrinkle or mark of pigmentation, etc...even though I have been in perimenopause for much of this time period. I consider this amazing. All that said, I still have the crows feet I started with, although I "froze" them in time when I started caring for my skin and getting Botox to hold them back. I am all for the complete truth, so I am very happy with this. I couldn't do much about what occurred before 2006, but I have done lots to prevent the onward march of time since then. I did develop two small age spots on one hand, but they are now gone, thanks to rigorous self-care. I get compliments on my eyes/face and hands all the time...they are clear and line free and I am now 52 years of age and happy to claim it.
While I don't doubt that the peels, rolls and topical vitamins have played a big part in my success, I really believe my regimin was kicked up a notch when I finally found the right sunscreen (Burnout) and added an estrogen topical for occasional use. The day after using the estrogen cream, my skin always looks very alive and fresh...
In spite of all of this, I am not superwoman and cannot prevent gravity from taking it's toll, so my cheeks keep sliding downward. Only surgery can correct that (please no lectures on facial exercise).
My biggest successes to report from 2012 were the use of hair straightening treatments to help me get back my silky hair. I had missed my hair, lol...and of course, the upper bleph which gave me back my eyes...oh and yes, the Rapidlash and Careprost (thanks to those who gave me great tips!)
I wish you all continued success in 2013 and look forward to hearing about your own discoveries!
Best! BFG |
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Fri Jan 04, 2013 5:45 pm |
I am simplifying my skincare routine and getting back to more "natural" ingredients.
I'm also revamping my diet and eliminating processed foods...and I've wanted to do something similar for my skin.
No more 12 step processes for my face!
I have a Clarisonic that I need to get back to using as well.
So I'm not adding anything, rather taking away a lot!
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32, Fair Skin, combo/break-out prone. Simple routine of REN No. 1 Purity Cleansing Balm and Argan oil as a moisturizer; Clarisonic when needed. That's it! |
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Sat Jan 05, 2013 11:53 am |
My goal for skincare is to continue being consistence with sunscreen and care. I am a big believer in sunscreen. Really what is the point of treatment products; if you are going to let the sun "undo" it all?
I do want to eat better. I have joined a gym and need to attend!
I have found some great hair products and my hair is looking good. No easy task for wavy, thick, porous, dry hair. It is considered a type2 on the naturallycurly.com forum. |
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Canadian with fair skin. 50+ years old sensitive and reactive. |
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Sat Jan 05, 2013 11:54 am |
| Barefootgirl wrote: |
Do you have any plans to change your current regimin? Any plans to try new devices or topicals or oral supplements?
Any successes to report from 2012?
My own plans:
I am going to continue my current topical regimin but consider purchasing a motorized needling device to replace my manual rollers. I am always looking at other at-home devices for skin rejuvenation, eg. lasers, penetration enhancement devices, etc. but have yet to become aware of anything with independent studies to back it up...if you are aware of any, please let us know.
Each January I do a "state of my skin" analysis, lol...to mark the anniversary of when I first started caring for my skin in earnest - 2006. I am happy to report that in these past 7 years, I have not developed one new wrinkle or mark of pigmentation, etc...even though I have been in perimenopause for much of this time period. I consider this amazing. All that said, I still have the crows feet I started with, although I "froze" them in time when I started caring for my skin and getting Botox to hold them back. I am all for the complete truth, so I am very happy with this. I couldn't do much about what occurred before 2006, but I have done lots to prevent the onward march of time since then. I did develop two small age spots on one hand, but they are now gone, thanks to rigorous self-care. I get compliments on my eyes/face and hands all the time...they are clear and line free and I am now 52 years of age and happy to claim it.
While I don't doubt that the peels, rolls and topical vitamins have played a big part in my success, I really believe my regimin was kicked up a notch when I finally found the right sunscreen (Burnout) and added an estrogen topical for occasional use. The day after using the estrogen cream, my skin always looks very alive and fresh...
In spite of all of this, I am not superwoman and cannot prevent gravity from taking it's toll, so my cheeks keep sliding downward. Only surgery can correct that (please no lectures on facial exercise).
My biggest successes to report from 2012 were the use of hair straightening treatments to help me get back my silky hair. I had missed my hair, lol...and of course, the upper bleph which gave me back my eyes...oh and yes, the Rapidlash and Careprost (thanks to those who gave me great tips!)
I wish you all continued success in 2013 and look forward to hearing about your own discoveries!
Best! BFG |
Tell me more about this estrogen cream please! |
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Sat Jan 05, 2013 1:39 pm |
This year, I am going "back to basics" focusing topicals with Vitamin A, C and E after getting tired of trying products that just don't seem to work. A,C and E are proven. I also will continue to use CPs and lactic acid.
I am having difficulty adjusting to Vitamin A. Just using a few nights a week now.. it seems to be making the lines UNDER my eyes worse.
In 2012, I started to dermaroll for product penetration only. This year, I would like to attempt a deeper roll.
Successes this year: horizontal forehead lines gone and clearer skin tone (which I can attribute to using a 10% lactic acid toner 5 days a week).
Biggest concern: stopping gravity. I am considering getting a micro-current device.
Thanks to everyone on this forum - for taking the time to share discoveries, the latest research and your personal results. |
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42! Currently using: NCN All-in-One, Mito-Q cream, Eviron AVST, Osea, Grateful Body. Wouldnt be without: Rhassoul clay, avocado oil, Glorybe Herbals hydrosols and perfume oils |
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Sat Jan 05, 2013 6:00 pm |
Here are my current plans...
Keep using: Vit C serum, Retin A, dermarolling (1mm with 1.5mm in trouble spots), oils + HA, sunscreen
Stop using: stem cell products (after I finish what I have left). I just didn't see much results for the high cost.
Seriously thinking about: getting a microcurrent device (if I could find a good one for home use), starting the estrogen cream again, and/or getting a Reaura or Tria. |
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Mon Jan 07, 2013 5:03 am |
I'm going to try very hard to ignore the "rave" reviews. I get sucked in far too easily and waste money on hype products instead of sticking with the tried and proven. From now on, I'm sticking with Retin-A, Vit C, anti-oxidants and a peptide or two - Rosehip Oil in the am, Emu Oil in the pm.
I'm very excited about the ongoing possibilities of the ReAura Laser and my micro-needle pen. |
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Mon Jan 07, 2013 2:10 pm |
This year I'm switching to mostly all phlatate-free makeup. I may switch most of my skin are and hair care as well.
My skin care will remain about the same- copper peptides, Clarisonic, peels & sunscreen. I may try to make myself use my Tua Trend a little more.
Health-wise, I'm sticking with Ray Peat. I will probably buy his Progest-e drops. I may also go on thyroid.
I'm always discovering new ideas online so there's really no telling what I may add to my regimen... |
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Mon Jan 07, 2013 5:17 pm |
| Keliu wrote: |
| I'm going to try very hard to ignore the "rave" reviews. I get sucked in far too easily and waste money on hype products instead of sticking with the tried and proven. |
Exactly my same thoughts! |
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Mon Jan 07, 2013 5:43 pm |
Wow now that you gals are all together, just gotta say that all the advice you have all given has helped me create a routine that's great for my skin and sooner rather than later. Giving your time to help others is a wonderful thing....thank you 
I just wish that I had started earlier, but like you BFG, I can't go back and can only look to what I'm doing now, and what I could do in the future.
I also don't plan on continuing with stem cells. Didn't see a difference. I'm happy to also continue with my Retin-A, Cps, Vit C, Sunscreen and AHA/BHAs.
Love my microdermabrasion every now and then (sometimes peels too). Love my clarsonic and my DPL Nuve device. I have a micro current device but not sure if I should continue.Just takes too long and with young kids....maybe I should.. Do you think it helps in the long term?
Will look into Re aura laser but not right now, as it's a bit pricey. I'm thinking of some professional IPL or laser instead this year to minimise red spots and get rid of an ugly freckle. LOL...that's about it.. |
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Mon Jan 07, 2013 7:57 pm |
I like a lot of you am going to try to refrain from buying into the hype about the latest and greatest product rave. Doesn't mean I won't try new things but not everything.
I am going to continue with Retin A and Vit C. I will also look for products with some proven clinical studies and evaluate whether to add them into my routine.
I plan on doing 6 dermarolls with a 1.5mm roller this year and hope by the end the year to have gotten good results. I may look into switching to the My-m electric Dermapen. Also will continue with the ReAura later this year after my rolls.
I am hoping to buy a salon type of microcurrent machine and some type of ultrasound device.
Successes this year were getting my acne under control. Real improvement in tone, texture and brown spots on my face. Some lessening of under eye bags and lines on my forehead. Need to really start looking at answers for the jowls that are forming on my face.  |
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Tue Jan 08, 2013 1:32 pm |
This year routine is definitely going to be less complex than 2012.
I tried a lot of new things in the past year. Something worked, other things didn't.
This year i will intensify facial exercises. All gadgets except Galvanic Spa and IR Panels are going on a shelf.
I don't have much time in the AM. All i can allow myself is cleaning and sunscreen. Biggest addition - green smoothie with chlorella!
All treatments are left for PM time and i feel i have not enough evenings each week
Ideally i would like to do:
- Galvanic Spa treatment twice a week;
- IR combined with copper peptides twice a week;
- Skin Actives Collagen Serum with Vitamin A cream on top every couple of days;
- Skin Actives Vitamin C serum every 3 days;
- Tanaka massage with PC's antioxidant serum twice a week;
- PC's AHA/BHA every other day and once a week full body AHA 10%.
God knows how i am going to fit all of this in ) And that is not counting all new experiments i may come up with.
Anyone else having the same problems? |
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Wed Jan 09, 2013 9:20 am |
| what is a motorized dermaroller? any sites to look at? is it better than a manual dermaroller. |
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Wed Jan 09, 2013 11:27 am |
thanks cookieD.
I will certainly look into it. |
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Wed Jan 09, 2013 9:23 pm |
My number one intention this year is to change the way I eat, for my health but also for my skin. I am switching to a clean, wholefood, anti-inflammatory diet avoiding as much processed food and refined carbs as I can. So far this year I have been eating around 15 servings of fresh fruit and veg a day as well as trying out green smoothies, lots of white tea and natural cocoa in the evening, with the intention of getting as many natural antioxidents into my diet as possible. I hope in time this will start to show in my skin.
I am also intending to start taking regular exercise and some choice supplements as well as start using my new Tria Laser consitantly along with good skincare, I'm trialing the newish Vichy Liftactiv Serum 10 as I think the research behind the use of Rhamnose looks promising.
Things that I may add in later in the year are facial exercise and use of an at home LED treatment but I will focus on the basics first off!
Good luck to everyone with this years beauty goals! |
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Thu Jan 10, 2013 3:38 pm |
Hi Zizi,
Yes I know what you mean it is confusing with so much conflicting advice out there. I don't know if you live in the UK but the Daily Mail is not a credible newspaper, if you can even call it that it's known as the "Daily Wail" or "Daily Fail" by many and is famous for these kinds of stories, tommorow they will have an article on how eating 10 oranges a day makes you immortal!
However I am sure the research on Anti-oxidents being linked to cancer is valid. As the article states cell death is a natural function of our bodies and perhaps a high intake of anti-oxident supplements does keep malfunctioning cells alive longer and there by opens the door to mutation and cancer.
Also it could be true that lots of people who take anti-oxident supplements don't worry too much about lifestyle and diet due to there insurance policy in a pill, it gives them a false sense of security.
Personally I am not going to worry about it as I hope to get most of my nutrients from a good healthy diet and then take a good multivitmin and san omega oil mix as I am veggie. |
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Thu Jan 10, 2013 4:21 pm |
Did you see this sentence:
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| He has caused uproar in the past with his opinions on race, intelligence, beauty and homosexuality. |
He believes that different races have different levels of intelligence. He believes that women should abort their children if they are shown to have the homosexuality gene.
As for blueberries causing cancer - there are also people today who still believe that the world is flat - I won't be accepting their opinion any time soon either!!! |
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Born 1950. There's a new cream on the market that gets rid of wrinkles - you smear it on the mirror!! |
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Thu Jan 10, 2013 5:38 pm |
| Keliu wrote: |
Did you see this sentence:
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| He has caused uproar in the past with his opinions on race, intelligence, beauty and homosexuality. |
He believes that different races have different levels of intelligence. He believes that women should abort their children if they are shown to have the homosexuality gene.
As for blueberries causing cancer - there are also people today who still believe that the world is flat - I won't be accepting their opinion any time soon either!!! |
Exactly, the "Daily Fail" is notorious for trying to rile people up by publishing this sort of thing out of all context. This sort of research only a small part of our overall understanding and can't be taken in isolation and as you say the man responsible for this statment as clever as he is in some respects has a talent for saying some incredibly stupid things!
Unless anyone is mainlining vast amounts of high strength Vitamin E or A then its probably not useful to worry about. |
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Thu Jan 10, 2013 6:13 pm |
| pandora77 wrote: |
| Keliu wrote: |
Did you see this sentence:
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| He has caused uproar in the past with his opinions on race, intelligence, beauty and homosexuality. |
He believes that different races have different levels of intelligence. He believes that women should abort their children if they are shown to have the homosexuality gene.
As for blueberries causing cancer - there are also people today who still believe that the world is flat - I won't be accepting their opinion any time soon either!!! |
Exactly, the "Daily Fail" is notorious for trying to rile people up by publishing this sort of thing out of all context. This sort of research only a small part of our overall understanding and can't be taken in isolation and as you say the man responsible for this statment as clever as he is in some respects has a talent for saying some incredibly stupid things!
Unless anyone is mainlining vast amounts of high strength Vitamin E or A then its probably not useful to worry about. |
I've actually been doing a lot of research on this kind of thing as I'm reducing the number of supplements I take as I've changed my diet to eliminate processed foods.
Too much Vitamin A is toxic and has been a well-known issue for a long time. I stopped taking supplements with Vitamin A awhile ago after I read about Vitamin A toxicity (I NEVER use Airborne..TOO MUCH VITAMIN A!).
I very much respect Dr. Andrew Weil, here are two articles (one on A and one on E) that are very informative. Vitamin E should never exceed 400 IUs (and the type matters) and Vitamin A should not exceed 5,000 IUs (PLANT based, not retinol/retinoid based, like retinyl palmitate that is in Airborne...FYI one dose of Airborne has 2000 IUs in just one serving, and they recommend you take it several times a day).
http://www.drweil.com/drw/u/ART02759/facts-about-vitamin-a
http://www.drweil.com/drw/u/id/QAA346547 |
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32, Fair Skin, combo/break-out prone. Simple routine of REN No. 1 Purity Cleansing Balm and Argan oil as a moisturizer; Clarisonic when needed. That's it! |
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Thu Jan 10, 2013 6:37 pm |
| ParisTroika wrote: |
| pandora77 wrote: |
| Keliu wrote: |
Did you see this sentence:
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| He has caused uproar in the past with his opinions on race, intelligence, beauty and homosexuality. |
He believes that different races have different levels of intelligence. He believes that women should abort their children if they are shown to have the homosexuality gene.
As for blueberries causing cancer - there are also people today who still believe that the world is flat - I won't be accepting their opinion any time soon either!!! |
Exactly, the "Daily Fail" is notorious for trying to rile people up by publishing this sort of thing out of all context. This sort of research only a small part of our overall understanding and can't be taken in isolation and as you say the man responsible for this statment as clever as he is in some respects has a talent for saying some incredibly stupid things!
Unless anyone is mainlining vast amounts of high strength Vitamin E or A then its probably not useful to worry about. |
I've actually been doing a lot of research on this kind of thing as I'm reducing the number of supplements I take as I've changed my diet to eliminate processed foods.
Too much Vitamin A is toxic and has been a well-known issue for a long time. I stopped taking supplements with Vitamin A awhile ago after I read about Vitamin A toxicity (I NEVER use Airborne..TOO MUCH VITAMIN A!).
I very much respect Dr. Andrew Weil, here are two articles (one on A and one on E) that are very informative. Vitamin E should never exceed 400 IUs (and the type matters) and Vitamin A should not exceed 5,000 IUs (PLANT based, not retinol/retinoid based, like retinyl palmitate that is in Airborne...FYI one dose of Airborne has 2000 IUs in just one serving, and they recommend you take it several times a day).
http://www.drweil.com/drw/u/ART02759/facts-about-vitamin-a
http://www.drweil.com/drw/u/id/QAA346547 |
Hi ParisTroika,
I do agree that there is validity to the research about over doing it with supplements as I say in my post above but the article in the daily mail article mentioned does make it seem as though eating blueberries and broccoli is putting you at an elevated risk of cancer which is clearly ridiculous it is more about exessive use of certain kinds of supplement that your links to Dr Weil so brilliantly explain i.e. he advocates the use of Natural forms of the supplements over synthetic versions.
I think a big part of the problem would be say knocking back large amounts of vitamin pills, while eating a poor diet and thinking that your pills were covering your nutritional needs. We evolved to eat whole foods and there are so many co-factors which influance how we absorb and use nutrients in the body that supplements are best used as part of a cohesive strategy to maintain and improve wellbeing rather than as the corner stone of such a plan.
I guess I am getting off topic with the resolutions and I am sure this issue as been debated on here before but I think it is an important issue, perhaps it will become as contentious the arguments about soy consumption in time (not here lol, but in general).
Also we all have to listen to our bodies on an individual basis and determine what works for each of us as we hopefully take increasing responsibility for our health rather than relying on the latest scientific consensus. |
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Thu Jan 10, 2013 6:44 pm |
| pandora77 wrote: |
| ParisTroika wrote: |
| pandora77 wrote: |
| Keliu wrote: |
Did you see this sentence:
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| He has caused uproar in the past with his opinions on race, intelligence, beauty and homosexuality. |
He believes that different races have different levels of intelligence. He believes that women should abort their children if they are shown to have the homosexuality gene.
As for blueberries causing cancer - there are also people today who still believe that the world is flat - I won't be accepting their opinion any time soon either!!! |
Exactly, the "Daily Fail" is notorious for trying to rile people up by publishing this sort of thing out of all context. This sort of research only a small part of our overall understanding and can't be taken in isolation and as you say the man responsible for this statment as clever as he is in some respects has a talent for saying some incredibly stupid things!
Unless anyone is mainlining vast amounts of high strength Vitamin E or A then its probably not useful to worry about. |
I've actually been doing a lot of research on this kind of thing as I'm reducing the number of supplements I take as I've changed my diet to eliminate processed foods.
Too much Vitamin A is toxic and has been a well-known issue for a long time. I stopped taking supplements with Vitamin A awhile ago after I read about Vitamin A toxicity (I NEVER use Airborne..TOO MUCH VITAMIN A!).
I very much respect Dr. Andrew Weil, here are two articles (one on A and one on E) that are very informative. Vitamin E should never exceed 400 IUs (and the type matters) and Vitamin A should not exceed 5,000 IUs (PLANT based, not retinol/retinoid based, like retinyl palmitate that is in Airborne...FYI one dose of Airborne has 2000 IUs in just one serving, and they recommend you take it several times a day).
http://www.drweil.com/drw/u/ART02759/facts-about-vitamin-a
http://www.drweil.com/drw/u/id/QAA346547 |
Hi ParisTroika,
I do agree that there is validity to the research about over doing it with supplements as I say in my post above but the article in the daily mail article mentioned does make it seem as though eating blueberries and broccoli is putting you at an elevated risk of cancer which is clearly ridiculous it is more about exessive use of certain kinds of supplement that your links to Dr Weil so brilliantly explain i.e. he advocates the use of Natural forms of the supplements over synthetic versions.
I think a big part of the problem would be say knocking back large amounts of vitamin pills, while eating a poor diet and thinking that your pills were covering your nutritional needs. We evolved to eat whole foods and there are so many co-factors which influance how we absorb and use nutrients in the body that supplements are best used as part of a cohesive strategy to maintain and improve wellbeing rather than as the corner stone of such a plan.
I guess I am getting off topic with the resolutions and I am sure this issue as been debated on here before but I think it is an important issue, perhaps it will become as contentious the arguments about soy consumption in time (not here lol, but in general).
Also we all have to listen to our bodies on an individual basis and determine what works for each of us as we hopefully take increasing responsibility for our health rather than relying on the latest scientific consensus. |
Agreed!
Back to resolutions |
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32, Fair Skin, combo/break-out prone. Simple routine of REN No. 1 Purity Cleansing Balm and Argan oil as a moisturizer; Clarisonic when needed. That's it! |
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Fri Jan 11, 2013 5:48 am |
| I've tried everything from unfeasibly expensive creams (La Prairie, for example) to high-end (Dr Murad, Perricone MD) to mid-range (Clinique, Clarins, Estee Lauder) and I can say that my skin has reacted just as well to cheap-as-chips solutions. |
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Sun Jan 13, 2013 8:49 pm |
| I've decided I'm done with TCA peels and am going to try PMD instead. Also, based on what I've read on ncnproskincare, am switching to 1st generation (ghk-cu) CPs. |
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