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Sun Jan 06, 2013 7:27 am  |
Hi
i am on retin a. last night, i decided to do a natural mask for whitening. Chickpea flour, ground almonds and half teaspoon of lemon juice. My face was burning and seemed dry and sensitive.
i don't think it was retin a but the lemon juice.
however is it wise if i was to stop retin a for a few days? i will be using pure almonds and skip the chickpea and lemon.
is it ok? |
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Sun Jan 06, 2013 7:53 am |
I would not use this mask at all. Lemon juice is very irritating and your reaction to it sounds typical. I know I do see lemon juice recommended randomly however its a horrible idea IMO.
I would not use retin-a again until your skin returns to normal.
If you are going to make a mask I think turmeric would be a better 'whitening' option then almonds. |
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Sun Jan 06, 2013 7:56 am |
its irritating me now. will papaya enzymes be worst than lemon juice because i bought it.  |
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Sun Jan 06, 2013 8:09 am |
Salome,
can you post your full skin care routine so we can help you? I know you were interested in purchasing HA serums, I also saw your posts about enzymes and Retin A. I am having trouble piecing together what all you are doing!
What I would say right off the bat is add things to your routine SLOWLY... it is exciting to try new things, just don't do it all at once.
And I agree with GirlieGirl on her advice not to use lemon juice. It may lighten but you will destroy your skin barrier in the process... especially with retin a. |
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Sun Jan 06, 2013 8:14 am |
Hi at the moment my morning routine
cleanse
rose spray
reviva ha serm
shikai 24 hrs cream
shikai eye cream
my night:
cleanse
retin a
shikai 24 hrs cream
shikai eye cream
i made a mistake in using a mask containing lemon juice, almonds and chickpea flour and my face burned.
so tonight i am staying off retin a.
and it is:
cleanse
rose spray
reviva ha serm
shikai 24 hrs cream
shikai eye cream
but my face still hurts
can i stay off retin a for a week and see how things go b4 applying? i dun think it was retin a but the lemon juice.
PS: Oh sorry for the confusion, i have purchased papaya enzymes and the derma e radiant peel but it is still on its way shipping so have not touched them. and i of course don't have them on hands. just retin a. and started the stupid mask which hurt me. will lemon juice thin myh skin? becoz i never burn from retin a but rather lemon juice. |
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Sun Jan 06, 2013 8:19 am |
| the worst thing was last night i used the almond, chickpea and lemon juice mask, waited for half an hr and applied retin a. today i did the mask and felt the mask was the culprit and i skipped retin a. |
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Sun Jan 06, 2013 8:21 am |
yes, you can take a break from retin-a until your skin is less inflamed.
Lemon juice will not thin your skin and it will not do long term damage in just once use. I just would not use it again! |
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Sun Jan 06, 2013 8:26 am |
ok. because my whole head hurts.
so ok for me to stay off retin a a week. my face and scalp hurts although i only put on my face.
i used the mask twice. yesterday after retin a. and today w/o retin a. is it ok?
but i will not damage my skin right because i used it twice but not directly?
i also used eminence grape moisturiser. is it wise to discontinue use of this moisturiser because it contains lemon oil?
in future, Just to ask, is it ok to incorporate aha and papaya enzymes while on retin a? i dun wan to burn my whole face off. |
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Sun Jan 06, 2013 9:22 am |
| Salome_B wrote: |
Hi at the moment my morning routine
cleanse
rose spray
reviva ha serm
shikai 24 hrs cream
shikai eye cream
my night:
cleanse
retin a
shikai 24 hrs cream
shikai eye cream
i made a mistake in using a mask containing lemon juice, almonds and chickpea flour and my face burned.
so tonight i am staying off retin a.
and it is:
cleanse
rose spray
reviva ha serm
shikai 24 hrs cream
shikai eye cream
but my face still hurts
can i stay off retin a for a week and see how things go b4 applying? i dun think it was retin a but the lemon juice.
PS: Oh sorry for the confusion, i have purchased papaya enzymes and the derma e radiant peel but it is still on its way shipping so have not touched them. and i of course don't have them on hands. just retin a. and started the stupid mask which hurt me. will lemon juice thin myh skin? becoz i never burn from retin a but rather lemon juice. |
I don't see any sunscreen in your routine.
I agree with not using the lemon juice. What are you hoping the mask to do? Even skin tone? |
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Canadian with fair skin. 50+ years old sensitive and reactive. |
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Sun Jan 06, 2013 9:58 am |
why would you use a mask with ground chick peas and almonds twice a day? Do you use is as a scrub or leave it on like a mask?
I personally would not use an AHA with Retin A- you are already getting exfoliation.
Not sure about the enzymes.
In earlier threads, you were given great advice to start using a vitamin C serum. Why not use that instead?
One thing that may help is to use the search function here at EDS to look for topics where people post their skincare routines. This may help you. Good luck |
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42! Currently using: NCN All-in-One, Mito-Q cream, Eviron AVST, Osea, Grateful Body. Wouldnt be without: Rhassoul clay, avocado oil, Glorybe Herbals hydrosols and perfume oils |
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Sun Jan 06, 2013 11:56 am |
Salome, I agree with erg that you are doing so much to your skin at the shortest possible time. You are trying so many different products at the same time, which for me, is not a good way to do it... Some products may work or may not work for you, depending on your age and what you are trying to do.... In my opinion, using products not intended for you, is just a waste of hard-earned money.....
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Salome,
can you post your full skin care routine so we can help you? I know you were interested in purchasing HA serums, I also saw your posts about enzymes and Retin A. I am having trouble piecing together what all you are doing!
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Sun Jan 06, 2013 4:15 pm |
| erg wrote: |
why would you use a mask with ground chick peas and almonds twice a day? Do you use is as a scrub or leave it on like a mask?
I personally would not use an AHA with Retin A- you are already getting exfoliation.
Not sure about the enzymes.
In earlier threads, you were given great advice to start using a vitamin C serum. Why not use that instead?
One thing that may help is to use the search function here at EDS to look for topics where people post their skincare routines. This may help you. Good luck |
Vitamin C serum really does help with even skin tone. It also works well with a sunscreen. Use your serum first.
Sunscreen is very important for protecting your skin all year round. |
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Canadian with fair skin. 50+ years old sensitive and reactive. |
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Mon Jan 07, 2013 5:56 am |
Hi people.
today my skin is okay and i am back on retin a. no burning compared to lemon juice.
the chickpea lemon and almond serves as a mask.
i dun wear a sunscreen as i am indoors all day with windows closed and curtains drawn.
i am using the mask for brightening and whitening. i have purchased my vitamin c powder and glycerin but its on its way shipping not here yet.
So a aha is a nono on retin a? i bought it already. it is shipping on its way.
the eminence i bought it earlier on a new moisturiser i intended to try but it has lemon oil. should i stop it? my face kinda burns when i wear it.
jade - what are the products which you think not suitable aside retin a? i am 24. |
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Mon Jan 07, 2013 5:25 pm |
I wouldn't say AHA and retina-a is a no no, but I think what everyone is saying is you basically need to add products slowly and see how your skin copes. Every skin has different needs. It took me a while to create a routine on AHA/BHA (which I think is great for acne prone skin and for me I really really need to use it) Vit C, RetinA and Cps. But I don't use it all in one day. I need to alternate my acids & Cps every morning so as I can use my retina-A nightly.
You really need to look at application and frequency use of each product.
Start with your Vitamin C. Wait then add HA then moisturiser during the day.
(See how you go for a while then you can alternate morning with your AHA and Vit C (or AHA 2x week)...then see how you go and re-evaluate.)
Then do your Retin-A with an oil or moisturiser at night (you can mix your HA with the oils too...thats soooo good.)
Anyways glad your skin is recovering and stay off acids till it recovers completely and reintroduce slowly.
Youve gotten great advice and GL |
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Mon Jan 07, 2013 6:21 pm |
one thing i am afraid to use vit c is that will it burn the skin? some feedback vit c turned them into an orange face or burnt them. i plan to use vit c when my hydration prob is solved. i have bought the powder and glycerin anyway.
is it ok to use macadamia, hemp, kukui, mango butter and as for oils, borage, meadowform, borage oil? will any of these diminish the effects of retin a? of coz i am not applying all at one go.
oh if i am on retin a at night , can i use an oil with ha serum? isn't it too much, will the oil or butter work with retin a? |
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Mon Jan 07, 2013 6:48 pm |
Yes Vit C may not be for everyone. I think for those whose skin went orange would be a minority. More than likely oxidised Vit C goes brown/ orange...not good.
If you start slow, like anything, there shouldn't be anything to be scared about.
Have you read these? Good general :
info.http://www.smartskincare.com/treatments/topical/vitc.html
http://www.smartskincare.com/treatments/topical/vitcderiv.html
Please research everything before you try it. But yes do address your hydration issues first. Like I said before mix your HA with your oil or butter. You may like it better if layering hasn't worked.
I personally don't like butters as they clog my skin, but oils are okay, however I can only tolerate argan oil. Some people say oil after retin A can help Retin-a penetrate better, a bit like emu oil with Cps. But when in doubt wait at least 30 min after. Hemp oil is nice too. I think you would be okay. Its a tough one to prove either way. |
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Mon Jan 07, 2013 6:53 pm |
Hi
erm so is ok to use oils with retin a? i always use anything an hr after retin a.
but is it ok to use a ha serum and oil with retin a? with i be diluting retin a?
what does oil after retin A can help Retin-a penetrate better? what does it means good or bad? am i diluting retin a?
sorry still quite new to skin care. :/ |
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Mon Jan 07, 2013 7:06 pm |
In regards to oil helping penetrate it actually may not help penetrate better if retina-a is water soluble. But if I was to choose i would apply oil AFTER retina A (wait time). Its ok to mix HA and oils, but DONT mix it with retina A if you dont want to dilute it or muck about with the concentration.
If you have your doubts then dont apply anything after your Retin-A. Thats how its suppose to be, but just many of us get the dryness associated with it so like it better. I dont know what will work for you as your skin is different to mine. Use the search option on EDS. Retin A has been discussed many times here eg http://www.essentialdayspa.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=44426 |
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Mon Jan 07, 2013 7:09 pm |
ok
so what you think is better?
Cleanse
half an hour - retin a
an hr after - oils
or
Cleanse
half an hour - retin a
an hr after - oils mix with ha serum.
oh forgot to mention my retin a is cream based.
it looks like that
http://www.ro-pharmacy.com/retin-cream-p-148.html |
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Mon Jan 07, 2013 7:12 pm |
| For me I do the second one, or 1st one with damp hands. For you why not try both and see what you like better? |
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Mon Jan 07, 2013 7:14 pm |
erm i am you say 1st one with damp hands?
but i have retin a on my face. how am i going to use damp hands? will the water increase irritation of retin a? |
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Mon Jan 07, 2013 7:45 pm |
| I'm talking about oils. Instead of HA you can just use damp hands. Oils not retina-a. Why would water irritate your skin anyways? |
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Mon Jan 07, 2013 7:51 pm |
because i have retin a on my face.
so you are suggesting,
cleanse
half an hr - retin a
pour oil on damp hands and apply onto face
is it like this? |
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Tue Jan 08, 2013 12:49 am |
| just to sidetrack, does tumeric really help whiten face and is it stinging? |
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Wed Jan 09, 2013 11:21 pm |
| I would suggest don't use them both together. The result might be almost like a burn on your skin. |
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