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ADA 88
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Wed Feb 13, 2013 4:12 am  |
I have tried a lot of products for my scar, and nothing helped. A friend from Sweden sent me something new to try but I am skeptic. She told me that she has seen the creams efficiency live at the hospital where she works. Do any of you know anything about this cream? livita.se/products/contrakel
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Wed Feb 13, 2013 9:53 pm |
I have not used this product so I have no personal experience with it. I was just looking at the ingredients in it and to me it looks like a really emollient moisturiser. I did not see any special ingredient that has been studied and proven to reduce scars. However it contains vaseline which does have some studies that have shown white petrolatum to be helpful in the repair of the skin barrier. The allantoin is a really good anti-irritant, then there's vit A and E which are beneficial to skin. It has thickeners, emollients, emulsifiers, preservatives so it looks like a rich moisturizer for very dry skin. To me this seems somewhat better formulated than Mederma or Scargo. Give it a try.
Where is your scar BTW? How did you get it, how old is it? How did you treat it when the injury happened? There's a lot you can do to improve the appearance of scars, so maybe if you give us some more information on it, we can work up a few more ideas in addition to the scar cream. |
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Thu Feb 14, 2013 7:12 am |
Rosehip oil and helichrysum the best scar massage oil.
Scarguard the best paint on treatment for raised scars, it flattens them. |
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Thu Feb 14, 2013 2:20 pm |
Catski, in your experience using the rosehip oil and helichrysum oil mixture how many times a day did you massage it on the skin and how long did it take for the scars to fade?
Also, do you know how many drops of helichrysum to rosehip oil worked the best for you? if we were to try to make a 1 oz bottle of this do you know the correct amount of each to mix together for it to be the most effective? |
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Thu Feb 14, 2013 4:08 pm |
I do it by feel, Indium.. I've made various strength potions over the years. I had deep striae and rips in my skin like old fashioned stocking runs after my second pregnancy... I have used dermarolling and copper peps, glycolics and emu oils, dermabrasion and finally rosehip oil with helichrysum.
The truth is, different scars heal at different times, even parts of the same scar heal quicker than other parts.
Massage twice a day is definitely the best thing.
Exfoliation and massage.
I have used very strong % of helichrysum and weaker, depending on how I feel and how much I have left. I used Tamanu oil also as it is supposed to be good for scars, but never found it to be particularly so.
For fading of scars, turmeric and sandalwood paste is excellent: mix the powders with rosehip oil and exfoliate with it then leave it on to soak into the skin, for as long as you can, before bathing. |
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laced
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Thu Feb 14, 2013 6:15 pm |
Have you tried Kelo-Cote Gel?
I've used this about a year ago to get rid of a bad scar I had on my leg from a fall, it helped so much to both lower the scar and make it look less discoloured. |
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Thu Feb 14, 2013 8:17 pm |
| catski wrote: |
I have used very strong % of helichrysum and weaker, depending on how I feel and how much I have left.
For fading of scars, turmeric and sandalwood paste is excellent: mix the powders with rosehip oil and exfoliate with it then leave it on to soak into the skin, for as long as you can, before bathing. |
Was curious where you get your helichrysum at?
I see that "helichrysum(italicum)"(no dilution) is going for $40 per 5ml(.2oz). I read at a few reputable places that italicum seems to be the best type(of the 4) when it comes to what people use(or should use) for scarring due to it's "y-curcumene" content.
Carrot oil should also be looked @ for scars/pigmentation. It's much cheaper than the above, but they both are claimed to work fantastic.
Would probably rate it as Helichrysum Italicum > rosehip/carrot oil, but all 3 would make a good topical for red marks & scars outside of any rolling/peels/high % AHA or BHA.
I never heard of people using sandalwood powder(just the oil), but it seems very intriguing and I'm going to look into it  Thanks. |
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Thu Feb 14, 2013 9:35 pm |
| I have yet to find anything that helps keloid scarring. I am skeptical of anything that claims to help. |
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Thu Feb 14, 2013 10:53 pm |
| ADA 88 wrote: |
I have tried a lot of products for my scar, and nothing helped. A friend from Sweden sent me something new to try but I am skeptic. She told me that she has seen the creams efficiency live at the hospital where she works. Do any of you know anything about this cream? livita.se/products/contrakel
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" Purified water, olive oil, paraffinium liquidium, vaseline, glyceryl stearate SE, propylene glycol, urea, cholesterol, allantoin, phenoxyethanol,vitamin A palmitate, acrylates/C10-30 alkyl acrylate crosspolymer, isopropyl myristate, triethanolamine,polyperfluromethylisopropyl ether, ethylhexylglycerin, tritcum vulgare germ oil, BHT, vitamin E acerate. "
The ingredients of this cream seem completely useless for scar healing and harmful (BHT is supposed to be very harmful )
I have had good success with Mederma Advanced for hypertrophic scars...
I think a simple olive oil massage would be better than livita... |
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Fri Feb 15, 2013 7:04 am |
| laced wrote: |
Have you tried Kelo-Cote Gel?
I've used this about a year ago to get rid of a bad scar I had on my leg from a fall, it helped so much to both lower the scar and make it look less discoloured. |
I have used a lot of silicone gels and also silicone sheets. They are ok. Not that great. 
Yes, helichrysum is really expensive. Last time I bought it I went onto ebay Croatia and ordered it from there... it's really good pure stuff and cost much less. The smell of it is gorgeous.
Another thing for scars is lugols. Iodine shortage in our bodies makes scars stick around longer. I often load lugols into my massage blend, in the palm of my hand, before applying it. It seems like the scars just eat up the iodine ...no yellow remains at all. The scars seem to calm down when they get iodine.
I did try strivectin, too, years ago. It was ok. It helped fade. |
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Faith1147
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Sat Feb 16, 2013 5:22 pm |
| I am not aware of what kind of scar you are trying to heal, but I know of something that really works very well. It is given for patients to use after surgery. The way my body heals on certain parts would leave thick bumps. (I have on my ears from where they were pierced). I had a blemish on my chest that could not wait to go away and unfortunately I was left with something worse. I had the thing for years. I researched it and found silicone scar sheets. I went to the local drugstore and picked up the off brand. I cut the sheets in small pieces and placed them on the scar. I did this with other scars as well. The big one is virtually gone and the smaller ones vanished. It is amazing. I just slept with them on every night. Now we would think I learned my lesson from before but I need to start using them again for yet another. But they work, seriously. It takes a while, but not too long. The color and size just start shrinking. I wasn't even consistent with it either. I am sure if you were it would be gone in no time. I hope this helps. |
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Sat Feb 16, 2013 6:39 pm |
| Hi Faith1147, welcome to EDS! Are you in USA, if so which brand of the silicon sheets did you get and? Thank you |
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Sat Feb 16, 2013 7:33 pm |
I have used silicone sheets on hypertrophic scars, for about 14 weeks and didnt notice much change. I wore them 24/7 except when washing.
Scarguard worked quickly and palpably.
Different things for different people, unfortunately there's generally no 'one size fits all' when it comes to skin care. |
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Sat Feb 16, 2013 7:34 pm |
| very true catski! |
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ADA 88
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Thu Feb 21, 2013 6:15 am |
After my accident (2 y ago) I had to go through knee surgery that left me with a BIG scar. So no more short dresses for me!!! I've tried 4 different scar creams one of them oil based, but nothing happened. The silicon based ones just made the scar dry and irritated.
What is BHT? If the cream is a medical device then It has to be approved and have some kind of medical proof or…?
I will give this Contrakel cream a try and let U know how it goes.....Keep your fingers crossed!
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Wed Feb 27, 2013 8:47 am |
I agree with the rosehip seed oil suggestion.
It has worked very well with surgical scars on my neck and tummy - fresh scars that had already scabbed over.
It takes time, but worked very well. I think the act of gently massaging the oil in also helped reduce the scars as well.
Now the scars are very flat, with no discolouration. |
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Wed Feb 27, 2013 8:49 am |
| How long did it take you to get to that point, lamicuz? |
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Fri Apr 12, 2013 11:59 am |
Iodine tincture works for raised scars.
But needs dedication.
When you put the stuff,the skin sheds fast and in a constant rate that is being replaced by hardened dead skin.This action creates a rush for the skin to begin regenerate from the bottom.
And this is the best kind regeneration,from bottom to up.
Thing is iodine tincture or lugol's make the skin really ugly.
I wish i was that crazy to be out for 2 weeks with a stain on my face.
I used also white iodine on face(since it doesnt stain) and i can say i have interesting results.
But i will ask the pharmacy next time to make me a heavier concentration(like 2-3%).
So for raised scars ,iodine is gold.
I will post my link when the scar has become really flat (most of it has become already flat,but the stain of iodine and the scubbing,dont make the perfect condition to take a photo now,so i have to wait a bit).
Anyway keep in mindd the iodine thingy:) |
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Fri Apr 12, 2013 4:22 pm |
For me silicone sheeting seems to help... At least, post surgery they have seemed to help prevent any raised scarring.
I just got a nasty keloid scar on my knee from a fall - kind of strange because I've never had a keloid scar before. I've got some silicone sheeting so we'll see if it works. I think it's important that the sheet exert pressure on the wound - so it's sometimes good to use some surgical tape to apply even more pressure on top of the silicone sheet.
I've also heard that you can combine silicone sheeting with stuff like dermarolling and silicone scar gel. I might try this actually. So far I've been wearing the silicone sheet 24/7 for a few days. |
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Fri Apr 12, 2013 6:05 pm |
I'm not sure whether I've asked this somewhere before, but are you sure helichrysum smells good? I'm fairly certain that I bought some years ago for fading acne scrars and couldn't stand the smell. It was very expensive and from a reputable distributer.
I googled and found the scent described as everything from straw like & woodsy/fruity to medicinal. What I had was very strong and by far the worst smelling of any essential oil I've had. |
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Fri Apr 12, 2013 6:14 pm |
| Smell good or smell not good.. very subjective I guess. |
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Wed Apr 17, 2013 7:28 am |
are you sure its that expensive.?i found helichrysum oil at amazon.co.uk for like 15 pounds>
Could you please give more details about the helichrysum oil and how do you apply it mix it etc?
Thank you |
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Wed Apr 17, 2013 11:53 am |
| £15.00 for how much oil? |
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Thu Apr 18, 2013 7:17 am |
| I bought the scar sheets and am going to give them a try on my keloid scars, cannot hurt at this point!! |
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Thu Apr 18, 2013 12:47 pm |
I've done some single needling on a hard hypertrophic recently and it is early days yet, but it definitely has softened it up and flattened it some, and made it more receptive to pressure massage.
I'm going to continue the experiment with a series of single needling treatments and will report back. |
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