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Sat Jun 01, 2013 6:34 pm |
I saw this on Makeupalley last night, and my heart broke for her, but I have to admit I was sort of annoyed when I read this:
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This ordeal has shed light to the fact that actually, there could be plenty of reasons why people look… well, different. Most of the time, they didn’t choose to look like that, they were just born this way. This person has probably seen more skin doctors in her life than I’ve seen a GP for a cold; that person probably has gone through years of depression due to low self-confidence from bad skin but has emerged stronger and immune to the stares of people; the other person probably has skin so sensitive she breaks out from the sheerest of makeup.
There are reasons why people are like that. I have learnt not to judge people by the result of their actions. I will learn to see more of what’s inside a person – a good nature, a pure heart, a fighter. |
Like, really? It took you a terrible allergic reaction to realize that some people have horrible acne and other skin conditions that, despite their absolute best efforts (and literally thousands upon thousands spent), they might not be able to heal? I'm sorry, as someone with severe psoriasis (who has to spend about $2,000/month to look "normal,") this really bugged me. I guess I shouldn't be so naive- most people ARE extremely judgmental until something hits close to home for them.
All that being said, I am SO sorry for this poor girl- that is an absolute NIGHTMARE, not something I'd wish on anyone. My heart breaks for her, and as I said, I say that as someone with a severe skin condition myself.
One thing I don't understand- why the willingness to name the doctor she went to, but not where she received the facial?? |
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Sun Jun 02, 2013 6:19 am |
Same sentiments here ellaelise. I was wondering this same question. Why she did not name the salon/spa who did this to her face? If I did not get good service from a doctor, I go to get a second opinion from another doctor but I don't get that upset. Doctors have different training, some are good, some are not....
ellaelise wrote: |
One thing I don't understand- why the willingness to name the doctor she went to, but not where she received the facial?? |
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Sun Jun 02, 2013 6:31 am |
ellaelise wrote: |
I saw this on Makeupalley last night, and my heart broke for her, but I have to admit I was sort of annoyed when I read this:
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This ordeal has shed light to the fact that actually, there could be plenty of reasons why people look… well, different. Most of the time, they didn’t choose to look like that, they were just born this way. This person has probably seen more skin doctors in her life than I’ve seen a GP for a cold; that person probably has gone through years of depression due to low self-confidence from bad skin but has emerged stronger and immune to the stares of people; the other person probably has skin so sensitive she breaks out from the sheerest of makeup.
There are reasons why people are like that. I have learnt not to judge people by the result of their actions. I will learn to see more of what’s inside a person – a good nature, a pure heart, a fighter. |
Like, really? It took you a terrible allergic reaction to realize that some people have horrible acne and other skin conditions that, despite their absolute best efforts (and literally thousands upon thousands spent), they might not be able to heal? I'm sorry, as someone with severe psoriasis (who has to spend about $2,000/month to look "normal,") this really bugged me. I guess I shouldn't be so naive- most people ARE extremely judgmental until something hits close to home for them.
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Could not agree more. I read her blog too - she seems incredibly immature. |
_________________ 42! Currently using: NCN All-in-One, Mito-Q cream, Eviron AVST, Osea, Grateful Body. Wouldnt be without: Rhassoul clay, avocado oil, Glorybe Herbals hydrosols and perfume oils |
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Sun Jun 02, 2013 7:33 am |
Wow, that those pictures were horrible. I can feel my skin itch just thinking about it.
She looks pretty young so her immaturity isn't a super big surprise. |
_________________ Esthetician working at a Med-spa. Love the Clarisonic! |
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Sun Jun 02, 2013 8:26 am |
we are both from the country. Ermm she is not that pretty young already. in my country is just young still to some men is considered old.
but like your mentioned why not name the facial place too? but a miracle isn't it before and after makeup? without makeup she looks quite ermmm...
she did mention that the facial was sponsored maybe it was free of charge by the salon so she could not put the name down? |
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Sun Jun 02, 2013 10:08 am |
After both my Fraxel Laser and CO2 laser I had similar breakouts, but not to that severe of degree.
Both derms that did them said that with sensitive skin it can bring things to the surface and especially if you tend to suffer from cold sores. I had to take a medication (Zovirax?) for both that and an antibiotic to calm it down. It took about 2-3 months for it all to subside and the breakouts to stop. Now I have to take the medications 4-5 days before any procedure like that.
I would not wish that on anyone though, her reaction was so very extreme and it sounds like no one knew how to get a handle on it. |
_________________ Joined the 50 club several years back, blonde w/ fair/sensitive skin, Texas humidity and prone to rosacea, light breakouts and sunburns, combo skin type, starting to see sundamage and fine lines |
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Sun Jun 02, 2013 6:43 pm |
:P thats what my face always looked like until I started taking care of it...it was awwwwful,only mine wernt all white I had a lot of darker or red acne and some white,so I know that feels terrible and embarrising haha, I'd go crzy ( well not really but you know) if I got a facial and then that happened,it really takes some effort to get rid of acne..sigh, I wish all of us had perfect skiiiiin haha ...and hair!! |
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Mon Jun 03, 2013 6:53 pm |
i guess after my initial subjective reaction to this girl's blog post
i can't help thinking
why she, as a *beauty-blogger beauty-tip-expert*, wouldn't want to further investigate,
or at least have her local/municipal authorities investigate,
as to exactly what was the real cause of her predicament and share those results with her on-line audience...
maybe it's a country-cultural-political thing?
dunno |
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Mon Jun 03, 2013 10:50 pm |
But skincare isn't an exact science, is it? I would think that we're all at risk both being treated and giving treatments. Who can say who's going to have a bizarre reaction to something which is perfectly acceptable to everyone else? I don't know whether it'd be fair to name the salon until it is proven that they did do something quite wrong, like unsterile equipment or expired products. (She definitely does need to have the place looked into.) The doctor she did give specific examples of he and his office being negligent and unprofessional.
Her condition is pretty extreme though. I don't know what to think about what could have caused something like that. I've suffered through some bad zits, but never anything anywhere close to that.. that is some serious irritation. Its almost like something must have burned her skin for it to erupt to that extent. But it didn't look like there was any evidence of the impending doom immediately after the procedure?
And about her being immature... people, especially pretty, privileged people who might tend to associate with only other pretty, privileged people (haha), I'd imagine live very sheltered lives. It makes me think of some of the rich, beautiful snobs I went to highschool with! I'm sure they could afford great skincare products and weekly facials and makeovers, and were looking at my teenage acne & lack of hoity toity treatment and makeup and thinking I was lazy and not caring etc. (Things were different back then & you couldn't Google everything or find super cheap alternatives everywhere). At least she did admit it and say that she's learned from it. |
_________________ Olive, normal/oily skin. Using rinse-off ocm, Vit C, Tretinoin since Nov/10, GHK since Feb/12, Niacinamide & glucosamine, alternating, & now skipping nights! Concerns include oiliness, hyperpigmentation from occasional zits, 11's & nasolabial folds. |
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Tue Jun 04, 2013 1:52 pm |
not exact science? not sure what's meant -
nevertheless, i do like that in the states, at least,
ANY bad reactions that ANY consumer has to a
product(s), regardless of circumstances, can be reported to the FDA and
then they, also, could get involved (or at least they can document additional useful info into their data bases).
helpful link >
http://www.fda.gov/ForConsumers/ConsumerUpdates/ucm241820.htm |
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Tue Jun 04, 2013 11:47 pm |
"not an exact science" means that while there are some set rules to follow, much is based on opinions and guesswork. There are a lot of variables that can get in the way. |
_________________ Olive, normal/oily skin. Using rinse-off ocm, Vit C, Tretinoin since Nov/10, GHK since Feb/12, Niacinamide & glucosamine, alternating, & now skipping nights! Concerns include oiliness, hyperpigmentation from occasional zits, 11's & nasolabial folds. |
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Wed Jun 05, 2013 4:31 am |
Kath91 wrote: |
not exact science? not sure what's meant -
nevertheless, i do like that in the states, at least,
ANY bad reactions that ANY consumer has to a
product(s), regardless of circumstances, can be reported to the FDA and
then they, also, could get involved (or at least they can document additional useful info into their data bases).
helpful link >
http://www.fda.gov/ForConsumers/ConsumerUpdates/ucm241820.htm |
True, but I believe she is located in Singapore. That being said, I know that Singapore isn't mainland China and that the products that are sold there are usually pretty good, but I have to wonder if the salon got some fake product from China and that's what did her skin in. I feel really badly for her , but it will eventually go away, as long as she doesn't continue to have extractions done (which can leave large pores and scars).
The worse thing about the pics is that the pustules look painful. I'd have trouble keeping my hands off of my face (I'm a picker...lol) if that were me. I can't believe the amount of the rash...and how quickly it all erupted. I wonder which products were used.
I would think that her best course of action would be to steam her face using some soothing medicinal herbs several times to open her pores and coat with an antibiotic ointment (and perhaps take an oral antibiotic as well). |
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Wed Jun 05, 2013 5:07 pm |
LoriA wrote: |
"not an exact science" means that while there are some set rules to follow, much is based on opinions and guesswork. There are a lot of variables that can get in the way. |
exactly!!! which is why HAD the events that occurred to her happened in the states there would have been a protocol for her (or any one in her unfortunate position) to take the opinions-and-guesswork OUT of the paradigm and report to a U.S. federal agency. read the gov consumer link ^
bullet875, i knew she was located in singapore based on reading her blog page i posted. I reiterate that i DO LIKE that in the states we have a federal safety measure which may or may not exist in other countries. i thought the same thing re: products used on her and their source. |
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Fri Jun 07, 2013 1:31 am |
I am not sure an ointment would be as good as so many use petroleum gel in them and your skin can not breathe.
I think something like a antibacterial first aid spray like bactine and then a antibacterial cream like tea tree oil could help.
The bactine spray is antibacterial, but also helps w redness, sunburn and has stuff for pain in it.
And maybe also using a clay mask to dry out the skin could help too?
My skin ended up with several stubborn blemishes in the past 2 months and this is what helped the most for me. |
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Fri Jun 07, 2013 5:11 am |
Ottawa Shopper wrote: |
I am not sure an ointment would be as good as so many use petroleum gel in them and your skin can not breathe.
I think something like a antibacterial first aid spray like bactine and then a antibacterial cream like tea tree oil could help.
The bactine spray is antibacterial, but also helps w redness, sunburn and has stuff for pain in it.
And maybe also using a clay mask to dry out the skin could help too?
My skin ended up with several stubborn blemishes in the past 2 months and this is what helped the most for me. |
That's a good point. I thought that Neosporin might be good because, not only does the skin look infected and angry, the skin around the pustules looks dry. Tea tree would be a good thing to try. I use that myself over Neosporin...Neo is my last resort before a visit to the doctor. |
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Fri Jun 07, 2013 7:19 am |
I would not mess around and get to a reputable dermatologist. Cortisone, prednisone, antibiotics, biafine and an anti-herpes medicine can all help, but an RX is needed. Having been there on the small scale, it is overwhelming and heartbreaking and near impossible to treat on your own (in that large a scale).
But it will take a village (and time) to get it handled and healed without scarring. The sooner you can address it the better. |
_________________ Joined the 50 club several years back, blonde w/ fair/sensitive skin, Texas humidity and prone to rosacea, light breakouts and sunburns, combo skin type, starting to see sundamage and fine lines |
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Fri Jun 07, 2013 9:39 pm |
Salome_B wrote: |
we are both from the country. Ermm she is not that pretty young already. in my country is just young still to some men is considered old.
but like your mentioned why not name the facial place too? but a miracle isn't it before and after makeup? without makeup she looks quite ermmm...
she did mention that the facial was sponsored maybe it was free of charge by the salon so she could not put the name down? |
What? Country? OMG! |
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Sat Jun 08, 2013 6:09 pm |
I saw her post blog as well and really felt for her. I can't imagine how devastating it would be.
I also think it was brave of her to post that. I can't say that I would have done it.
It is a good reminder for people. I have been guilty of it myself. When she first started to have the pustules, the first reaction was to do extractions, which ended up making her poor face worse. When my skin flared up a year ago, I thought it was breaking out. I started to use products to deal with the breakouts and my skin continued to get worse.
Finally a dear friend said - be gentle with your skin. When I switched back to healing, gentle products, my skin improved. If it would have had a voice, I'm sure it would have said - Thank God she finally got the message. Be kind to me and let me heal!!!
Sometimes a break out isn't a break out - but your skin giving you a message that what you are doing to it is too harsh. |
_________________ 46yrs, very dry skin that can be sensitive with Redness (not Rosacea). Purple Emu, NCN skincare, Emu Oil and La Mer Cream have made a tremendous difference. |
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Sat Jun 08, 2013 6:54 pm |
Time2Bme wrote: |
I saw her post blog as well and really felt for her. I can't imagine how devastating it would be.
I also think it was brave of her to post that. I can't say that I would have done it.
It is a good reminder for people. I have been guilty of it myself. When she first started to have the pustules, the first reaction was to do extractions, which ended up making her poor face worse. When my skin flared up a year ago, I thought it was breaking out. I started to use products to deal with the breakouts and my skin continued to get worse.
Finally a dear friend said - be gentle with your skin. When I switched back to healing, gentle products, my skin improved. If it would have had a voice, I'm sure it would have said - Thank God she finally got the message. Be kind to me and let me heal!!!
Sometimes a break out isn't a break out - but your skin giving you a message that what you are doing to it is too harsh. |
^^ a very compassionate and wise perspective, Time2Bme |
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Sat Jun 08, 2013 7:30 pm |
Thank you Kath91, that was nice of you to say. |
_________________ 46yrs, very dry skin that can be sensitive with Redness (not Rosacea). Purple Emu, NCN skincare, Emu Oil and La Mer Cream have made a tremendous difference. |
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Mon Jun 10, 2013 12:25 am |
bullet875 wrote: |
Ottawa Shopper wrote: |
I am not sure an ointment would be as good as so many use petroleum gel in them and your skin can not breathe.
I think something like a antibacterial first aid spray like bactine and then a antibacterial cream like tea tree oil could help.
The bactine spray is antibacterial, but also helps w redness, sunburn and has stuff for pain in it.
And maybe also using a clay mask to dry out the skin could help too?
My skin ended up with several stubborn blemishes in the past 2 months and this is what helped the most for me. |
That's a good point. I thought that Neosporin might be good because, not only does the skin look infected and angry, the skin around the pustules looks dry. Tea tree would be a good thing to try. I use that myself over Neosporin...Neo is my last resort before a visit to the doctor. |
The Bactine spray also has cloves and marojam oil in it- that is what the label on the one I have from Canada.
When I bought the US one it just lists "fragrances" but they smell the exact same... |
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Mon Jun 10, 2013 7:38 am |
And the picking is what makes it worse. It is hard to not want to, but then you are left with the red marks. Vicious cycle!
I ended up using a silver colloidal antibacterial ointment called Curad (helps diabetics heal) at the advice of my Doctor and it did really help. |
_________________ Joined the 50 club several years back, blonde w/ fair/sensitive skin, Texas humidity and prone to rosacea, light breakouts and sunburns, combo skin type, starting to see sundamage and fine lines |
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Mon Jun 10, 2013 3:38 pm |
@AnnieR
It's true. I'm always after my daughter not to pick at pimples. This poor girl though - it's not just the look of it she said it is also itchy. |
_________________ 46yrs, very dry skin that can be sensitive with Redness (not Rosacea). Purple Emu, NCN skincare, Emu Oil and La Mer Cream have made a tremendous difference. |
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