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Thu Jan 02, 2014 3:00 pm      Reply with quote
Hi all, I am starting a personal challenge to improve hair skin and nails using gelatin. I will report back in a month with feedback on my progress.

I'm taking a tablespoon full in a glass of water twice a day in the morning 30 minutes before meals and at night 2 hours after my last meal.

If anyone has any experience trying this already please share your findings here. Thank you in advance for your feedback.

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Thu Jan 02, 2014 4:23 pm      Reply with quote
I tried it a number of years ago, but no success... all it did was give me a stomach ache!!! Btw, gelatin comes from beef so if you're vegetarian it's not the way to go. Probably jam packed with GMOs too. Lol. I think the best thing for skin, hair and nails is minerals, magnesium, iodine, zinc, selenium all come to mind. Also some have success with MSM.
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Thu Jan 02, 2014 6:38 pm      Reply with quote
Tried marine collagen? It has some impressive amino acids and doesnt taste bad. Different brands and price points.

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Thu Jan 02, 2014 7:44 pm      Reply with quote
If you're not a vegetarian, you might try making a bone broth. If you can manage try for high-quality, no added hormone, organic, grass-fed beef (or chicken.) Lot's of tasty nutrients good for hair and skin. Good for cold, blustery winter nights like we're having in Chicago as we speak!

http://ohlardy.com/homemade-bone-broth-a-lost-art
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I use gelatin in my smoothies, soups, veggie sauces, all kinds of stuff! I guess I consume about one envelope a day, so that's 6-8 extra grams of protein I wouldn't have otherwise eaten. Sure it's cheap and not innovative, but I personally think it helped my skin a little. Firmer and less oily. Nails and hair? Less so, but I'm more interested in things that help my skin anyhow.

The thing that sucks is that most of the research on it has been done by knox. :P I've never had joint or cartilage problems, but I have family members who love it for arthritis pain.
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Fri Jan 03, 2014 9:48 pm      Reply with quote
i tried the knox gelatin and it made me sick, gives me a bad stomach ache. Embarassed
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Gelatin is a very poor-quality protein, from what I've been told. If that's not enough to put you off, it comes from horses' hooves.

Why not try some brown rice protein powder or other vegan alternative? Much better for you, and it won't upset your stomach.

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Sat Jan 04, 2014 2:59 am      Reply with quote
gelatin,diatomaceous earth,msm are all poisons.

cause whatever makes your hair grow super fast is a poison.cause hair among their multiple functios,expel stuff.

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Sat Jan 04, 2014 5:39 am      Reply with quote
Timely thread for me. I just started making bone broth and have been drinking a cup a day for the last several days. I'm hoping to keep up with this regimen. I'm getting creaking joints as I get older and joint formulas are pretty expensive. So I am using this as an alternative. Hopefully I will get the skin benefits too.

Beehive, thanks for posting that link! Very Happy
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Sat Jan 04, 2014 6:58 am      Reply with quote
you might want to try hyaluronic acid with chondroitin sulfate.I take drs best; its reasonably priced.I have been using iherb.com and they ship free if you purchase a minimum;they can ship really fast.Many times I will order in the morning and the next day its on my doorstep.Why would MSM be a poison? I think gelatin is taken because it builds up the collagen, Im not sure brown rice would do that.I tried to drink knox for a couple days but it made me sick and also it is very unpleasant to even try to drink that gelatinous mess. Sad
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^I always try to use canned salmon with the bones and skin. If it's been a while since I had some homemade soup, anyway. Seems to help everything along nicely. I really wish I would have gotten a bone density test before I started eating this way so I would know for sure if it was doing anything. It seems like one of those things that's very easy to chock up to the placebo effect.
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Sat Jan 04, 2014 8:08 am      Reply with quote
lucyluc wrote:
Why would MSM be a poison? Sad


It wouldn't. It isn't.

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Foods that promote collagen (you will note that neither bone broth nor gelatin is on this list):

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There are ways to help you increase the collagen in your skin, so you have to know what nutrients your body really needs to do this.

Soy products such as soymik and cheese contain an element known as genistein. The presence of genistein gives soy products their collagen production qualities, as well as helping to block enzymes that tend to break down and age the skin. Just about any soy product contains enough genistein to be helpful, including soy products that have been developed as substitutes for meat products.

Dark green vegetables are also excellent examples of food containing collagen producing agents. Add drak green leafy veggies such as spinach, cabbage and kale to your diet every day. They are packed with an antioxidant called lutein. You need 10 mg to get results - which equates to about 4oz. of spinach or 2oz. of kale. Recent French research suggests this will boost skin hydration and elasticity, fighting wrinkles. Rich in Vitamin C, regular consumption of kale, spinach,collards, and asparagus help to strengthen the body's ability to manufacture collagen and to utilize the protein effectively.

Beans help your body produce a vital anti-ageing substance called hyaluronic acid. Aim for at least two tablespoons of beans each day - broad or butter beans make a great substitute for mashed potatoes.

Red fruits and vegetables also are excellent sources to up the collagen content of foods in the diet. The presence of lycopenesl in these types of foods helps to act as antioxidants, which in turn increases collagen production. Try adding red peppers, beets, and fresh or stewed tomatoes to the diet. Also include sweet potatoes, carrots and more. Research from Dr Ronald Watson at the University of Arizona has found that the antioxidants in red, yellow and orange foods build up under the skin creating extra UV protection. "The effect is so strong that eating six portions a day for about two months will build a natural barrier equivalent to a factor four sunscreen," says Dr Watson.

Vitamin C rich fruits and vegetables are natural sources of collagen production. You should try to include citrus fruits like oranges, lemons and strawberies into your daily diet.

Prunes One of the biggest causes of skin aeing is attack by substances called free radicals, that break down healthy skin tissues. Antioxidants helps neutralise these free radicals before they can do any damage - and prunes are the fruit containing the absolute highest level of antioxidants. Blueberries are a close second. Eat five to six prunes, or a small basket of blueberries, daily to get a great health boost .

Omega Acids also help to create an ideal environment for collagen production. Fish such as salmon and turna are excllent sources of omega fatty acids. Nuts such as cashews, pecans, almonds and Brazil nuts contain healthy amounts as well.

Flaxseed is a major sources of the healthy fat omega-3. Skin cells are surrounded by a fatty layer made from this and other fats so, the higher your omega-3 intake the stronger that layer is, and the plumper your skin cells are - which helps disguise lines and wrinkles. Mix it into smoothies or add it to balsamic vinegar and use it as a salad dressing, but try to have a tablespoon each day.

Foods that are rich in sulphur content are also important to collagen production. Among these are green and black olives, fresh cucumbers, and fresh stalks of celery. Working in conjunction with the sulphur, vegetables that are rich in Vitamin A also aid in keeping collagen levels high. Try adding raw carrots, fresh cantaloupe and baked sweet potatoes to the diet for an extra boost.

Turkey contains a vital skin-friendly protein called carnosine that slows down a process in the skin called cross-linking. When this happens, fibres grow into the collagen of the skin making it stiff and inelastic. This then stops it snapping back when you do things like smile, laugh or frown - and this is what causes smile lines or crows feet. Eat turkey two to three times a week.

Chocolate is really is good for your skin. In studies in Germany, it was found that after drinking a cocoa-packed drink, blood flow to the skin was boosted (meaning it gets higher levels of nutrients and moisture). It also seemed to be more protected against UV damage - the number-one skin ager. Only dark chocolate contains enough antioxidants to have effects, though.

Manuka Honey is a special honey from New Zealand with unique healing properties. It has been used in skin care for centuries by the Maori people of New Zealand and it's easy to understand why. When used topically, Active Manuka Honey can restore and rejuvenate your skin. It supports the skin cell renewal process and assists in the formation of stronger collagen protein. As an added benefit, active manuka honey is rich in antioxidants and helps to reduce blemishes.

Rose hips are one of the plants extract that can present a rich source of collagen. They contain a high level of vitamin C, which is good for the production of collagen.

Avocado Oil If you want to know how to naturally produce collagen, you need to use face masks or creams that contain avocado oil. Avocado oil is deeply hydrating and highly compatible with the natural oils in your skin. Avocado oil is high in plant steroids, which help to reduce blemishes and age spots. It also helps to regenerate and rejuvenate skin damaged by free radicals. Avocado oil is important because it is scientifically proven to stimulate collagen production and it increases the proportion of soluble collagen in the dermis of your skin. And don't forget to include fresh avocadoes in your favourite salad and soup recipes!

One of the key points to keep in mind is that it is possible to provide everything your body needs to produce collagen by eating a balanced diet. By including some of the foods mentioned here, you will soon begin to see a difference in the quality of your skin tone, as well as have an improved sense of overall health. So toss those "collagen" creams out and start shopping for foods that will actually help you re-grow the collagen you have lost!

- See more at: http://www.healthcentral.com/skin-care/c/742375/55533/increase-eating/#sthash.uGtOmCkr.dpuf

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Sat Jan 04, 2014 5:56 pm      Reply with quote
^Some of those food probably instigate the collagen production, and then your body needs the amino acids to make the collagen.
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Sat Jan 04, 2014 7:07 pm      Reply with quote
This study suggests it might help diffuse alopecia:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2676911

And I've been meaning to try this brand of gelatin, it seems to be of good quality. The Collagen Hydrolysate is supposed to be easier digested than the regular.

http://www.greatlakesgelatin.com/consumer/CollagenFAQ.php
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Sat Jan 04, 2014 9:54 pm      Reply with quote
i use the Great Lakes Gelatin, it is from grass fed cows. I get it from iherb as it much cheaper than getting it here in Australia.
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Mon Jan 06, 2014 9:31 am      Reply with quote
So I went to the store today to buy some gelatine. There were two sorts on offer. One was made form beef gelatine. The other contained pork gelatine. I opted for the beef gelatine as the procedure to make a drink with it was quicker. However it says that it contains sulphites. Is this a bad thing? Are the sulphites naturally occurring or added? The pork gelatine one did not say it contains sulphites.
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Moon wrote:
So I went to the store today to buy some gelatine. There were two sorts on offer. One was made form beef gelatine. The other contained pork gelatine. I opted for the beef gelatine as the procedure to make a drink with it was quicker. However it says that it contains sulphites. Is this a bad thing? Are the sulphites naturally occurring or added? The pork gelatine one did not say it contains sulphites.


Sulfites are used as preservatives. Some people are allergic or lack the enzyme to process them and get headaches from ingesting sulfites.
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Mon Jan 06, 2014 4:25 pm      Reply with quote
Xandria, what gelatin brand are you using? Let us know your results after a few months. I have read many people have had good results with gelatin but I am wondering how long it takes for anyone to actually see results for hair etc...
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Mon Jan 06, 2014 8:42 pm      Reply with quote
its just too gross to swallow.No can do! Mad There are other things you can do to try to help wrinkles.
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Tue Jan 07, 2014 4:44 am      Reply with quote
lucyluc wrote:
its just too gross to swallow.No can do! Mad There are other things you can do to try to help wrinkles.

I just mix it in my cup of tea. It's hardly noticeable and definitely not gross.
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Indium wrote:
Xandria, what gelatin brand are you using? Let us know your results after a few months. I have read many people have had good results with gelatin but I am wondering how long it takes for anyone to actually see results for hair etc...


Indium, I developed a bad stomachache this past weekend, so I have decided to abandon this experiment. I wanted to try this but I can not continue. I do appreciate everyone's feedback on this topic.

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Wed Jan 08, 2014 9:40 pm      Reply with quote
Did you use Bovine or Porcine gelatin?

Was it regular Gelatin or Hydrolyzed Gelatin?

I wonder if you changed the type and brand of Gelatin you tried it might make a difference.

I have read people having bad reaction to Knox but were fine with other brands and also I have read people having bad reaction to Hydrolyzed Gelatin but were fine with the regular Bovine Gelatin.

Maybe you would be able to try again with a different type or brand.

I think Knox makes their gelatin from Pigs (Porcine).

Great Lakes has 3 types: a Bovine (Grass fed Cattle), Porcine Version, and they also Make a Bovine hydrolyzed Gelatin.

Also, if you wanted to try Fish Gelatin the only brand I have seen online so far is Modernist Pantry which makes their Gelatin from Farm raised Tilapia Fish.

Hope this info helps.
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