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Paula's Choice sunscreens really SPF 30?
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Mon Jul 13, 2015 10:27 pm      Reply with quote
I posted this question in the Product Review forum and thought I'd ask it here also. I recently received 3 Paula's Choice mineral sunscreen samples and they are all rated SPF30 even though they all contain different percentages of zinc oxide alone or a combo with titanium dioxide.
Resist Super Light: zinc oxide 13%
Skin Recovery: zinc 3.12%, titanium 3.85%
Hydralight: zinc 6%, titanium 2.32%

Does anyone know if these are "minimum" percentages to achieve SPF 30? BTW, all three are cosmetically elegant formulas, surprisingly easy to apply/blend with no greasy, pasty aftermath.
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Tue Jul 14, 2015 6:29 am      Reply with quote
Here is an article explaining how sunscreen ratings are analyzed.

http://thetriplehelixian.com/2013/04/25/the-meaning-of-spf-and-how-antioxidants-and-anti-inflammatories-can-skew-exaggerate-and-mask-those-ratings/

I had samples of all three of those PC sunscreens. I like the PC Resist best. (Reviewed separately.)

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Tue Jul 14, 2015 9:04 am      Reply with quote
Thanks for the link. I'll have to read it more than once. Smile
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Wed Jul 15, 2015 3:42 am      Reply with quote
Zinc Oxide in Resist Super Light is of nano-particle that I don't use because the UVA protection of nano Zinc Oxide is weak.


http://www.ewg.org/2015sunscreen/report/nanoparticles-in-sunscreen/

"......The shape and size of the particles affect sun protection? The smaller they are, the better the SPF protection and the worse the UVA protection. Manufacturers must strike a balance: small particles provide greater transparency but larger particles offer greater UVA protection......"

http://www.paulaschoice.co.uk/resist-super-light-daily-wrinkle-defense-spf-30.html
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Wed Jul 15, 2015 11:43 am      Reply with quote
Summer - How do you define "worse for UVA protection?" A significantly larger percentage of UVA rays getting through? Faster degradation of ingredient so must be applied more often? Must be applied thicker? Sorry I'm such a dunce. Sunscreens are the most challenging products for me to understand, and even more challenging to find one that works for me.
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Wed Jul 15, 2015 4:42 pm      Reply with quote
Jax,

I quoted it from EWG.

From other sources, all say that the UVA protection of nano Zinc Oxide is very little.
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Wed Jul 15, 2015 7:52 pm      Reply with quote
I have no idea how they are formulated, but I feel PC's tinted resist does not protect my skin well enough in the summer.
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Wed Jul 15, 2015 10:55 pm      Reply with quote
Now I worry. I wish I were a scientist so I could better understand these products. I've used so many brands over the years and many didn't protect like I thought they should, like Devita Solar Body. Others were too white or too smelly. At one time I was sure that chemical formulas were actually promoting brown spots. I hate the idea of having to wear a ski mask when it's 90 degrees and sunny.

Cynthia, did you burn or freckle with the Resist?
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Thu Jul 16, 2015 5:37 pm      Reply with quote
I don't freckle or burn, but I noticed my melasma/discolorations getting worse. I use Retin-A, however so I need a lot of protection from the sun. I usually use the Obagi Sunshield Matte spf 50, and midday I apply powder sunscreen on top. I also try to wear a hat/visor whenever possible in the sun. When I switched to the Paula's choice resist tinted spf 30, I noticed more discoloration with the same routine. It is a nice product, however.
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Thu Jul 16, 2015 8:13 pm      Reply with quote
Cynthia - Melasma is a tough nut to crack, so you are an excellent gauge of how a sunscreen is working. I imagine you can tell immediately if a screen isn't up to snuff. I recently moved from the midwest to a desert climate where it's sunny all the time, and really hot in the summer. High heat alone can exacerbate my discoloration. I think I might just stick to the Suzanne Somers sunscreen I got recently even though it goes on a bit heavy. But at least it's not white and I think it does protect.
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