Dermapen – value?
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free skin care · Fri Oct 12, 2012 5:43 am

I have recently found a way that I can purchase my very own Dermapen for about $600 US....

This would seemingly make the whole needling/ dermarolling process a lot easier and faster...and I can get needles of varying lengths for short or deep "rolls".

Looking for opinions...does this option seem expensive to you?
Given what we know about fractional lasers too, lol.
All feedback appreciated.

BFG

free skin care · Fri Oct 12, 2012 3:53 pm

Barefootgirl wrote:

I have recently found a way that I can purchase my very own Dermapen for about $600 US....

This would seemingly make the whole needling/ dermarolling process a lot easier and faster...and I can get needles of varying lengths for short or deep "rolls".

Looking for opinions...does this option seem expensive to you?
Given what we know about fractional lasers too, lol.
All feedback appreciated.

BFG

Can others get one too?

free skin care · Fri Oct 12, 2012 4:05 pm

Seems like a decent price to me. Is it the "official" dermapen? Not a knock-off? I'd be very tempted.

free skin care · Fri Oct 12, 2012 5:27 pm

Barefootgirl wrote:

I have recently found a way that I can purchase my very own Dermapen for about $600 US....

This would seemingly make the whole needling/ dermarolling process a lot easier and faster...and I can get needles of varying lengths for short or deep "rolls".

Looking for opinions...does this option seem expensive to you?
Given what we know about fractional lasers too, lol.
All feedback appreciated.

BFG

I would check out how much the replacement needle cost is per "cartridge". It has been a long time since I was on the Dermapen website but I seem to remember that the price for the different size needles was expensive. If you plan on reusing the needles obviously that will make it cheaper. Also I don't know if anyone on EDS has gotten the Dermapen so I would be curious if it is less painful/quicker etc. It sure looks that way on the YouTube videos I've seen but those can be deceiving.

free skin care · Sat Oct 13, 2012 7:49 am

Thanks for the comments, I appreciate them as I make up my mind... I might have to go to the Dermapen Facebook page to see if there are any updates...

I have a friend in Australia who is willing to have it shipped to her home, then she will re-ship to me.

After this transaction...maybe we can see about future shipments? I don't know. I am trying to make this as simple as it can be for all involved.

This is for the personal at home Dermapen, not the one used in medical offices - that one is over $1,000...which seems a little confusing to me because what makes the device increasingly effective (up to a point, no pun intended!) is the length of the needle, nothing I can think of associated with the unit itself - unless the professional unit "spins" or "punctures" faster than the personal unit...it's hard to get information from the company because they overwhelmingly wish to deal with skincare professionals only.

All that said, compared to rolling with a roller, it seems to me that anything that does the "puncturing" for me would be better - it's the self-mutilation aspect of rolling at home that bothers me most. Well that and the fact that it takes quite a bit of time. The numbing agent always wears off too quickly for me.
I am thinking this may save quite a bit of time. Because ostensibly, I could divide my face & neck into four parts - forehead, two sides of the face and neck, cover each with a numbing agent, place the thick plastic pieces over the four parts, wait, then remove them one at a time - wipe away the agent, then Dermapen each section quickly and be done with it - then jump in the shower and after, apply my topical vitamins...

Also, there is no risk of cross infection since I will not be sharing the needles, they are only going to be used by me.

Again, I appreciate any more thoughts on this...
To me, this seems like a more effective purchase than LED or Ultrasound, etc...

Thanks, BFG

free skin care · Sat Oct 13, 2012 9:11 am

BFG, I would PM Amber Sheets (or something close to that)...she had previously posted on Dermapen, works for them, and mentioned to me that a home unit would be coming out soon. I would definitely compare the price and specs before ordering.

free skin care · Tue Oct 16, 2012 4:03 pm

Barefootgirl wrote:

This is for the personal at home Dermapen, not the one used in medical offices - that one is over $1,000...which seems a little confusing to me because what makes the device increasingly effective (up to a point, no pun intended!) is the length of the needle, nothing I can think of associated with the unit itself - unless the professional unit "spins" or "punctures" faster than the personal unit.

Hi Barefootgirl, I saw this today while surfing around and thought it was interesting. This information I think is for the professional model but it says you can not only adjust the needle length but also the speed of the oscillate. (25 times/sec to 90 times/sec) This might be one of the differences between the pro vs home model.

I think I remember when owndoc did a review on the Dermapen one of the concerns was the speed of the needles. I wonder if she just had a knock version that didn't have adjustments.

The Derma Pen is a simple high tech (non-ablative laser) way of accomplishing a precision injury whereby the user can vary the depth of the needling to either create more of a surface injury focused in the Reticular or Papillary Dermis or by going deeper to create a more substantial wound where by it is a controllable precision way of creating collagen growth etc. The depth control allows for .05mm to 2.0mm and the 9 tiny needles Oscillate at 25 times/sec t0 90 times/sec.

http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=VIuwBC-5q9I&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DVIuwBC-5q9I

free skin care · Thu Oct 18, 2012 9:01 am

Barefootgirl wrote:

I have recently found a way that I can purchase my very own Dermapen for about $600 US....

This would seemingly make the whole needling/ dermarolling process a lot easier and faster...and I can get needles of varying lengths for short or deep "rolls".

Looking for opinions...does this option seem expensive to you?
Given what we know about fractional lasers too, lol.
All feedback appreciated.

BFG

BFG, why not use dermastamps of different needle lenght instead? Just an idea.

free skin care · Tue Oct 23, 2012 4:13 pm

RE: dermastamps - the point of my purchase is not so much the shape of the tool, but rather the mechanism of action. The rollers and stamps aren't "motorized"...with the Dermapen, the treatment will go faster and I don't have to do the pushing myself. It's not that the pushing is tedious, it's that I find it psychologically challenging to self-inflict. I believe the Dermapen will help me with that issue and make the whole process go faster and more thoroughly.

PS: Amber Sheets never responded to my messages...so anyway.

BFG

free skin care · Tue Oct 23, 2012 4:56 pm

BFG,

So, will none of these work?: http://www.amazon.com/s/?_encoding=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&field-keywords=dermapen&linkCode=ur2&tag=monamielarose-20&url=search-alias%3Daps

free skin care · Wed Oct 24, 2012 5:38 am

um....not sure of your point?

BFG

free skin care · Wed Oct 24, 2012 5:35 pm

VeronicaM wrote:

BFG,

So, will none of these work?: http://www.amazon.com/s/?_encoding=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&field-keywords=dermapen&linkCode=ur2&tag=monamielarose-20&url=search-alias%3Daps

None of those are motorized dermapens...they are just regular rollers.

Thu Oct 25, 2012 6:35 pm

I purchased a Dermapen type unit from an overseas China company and it is just junk! The device is clearly a knock off and leaks oil, is shoddy plastic and cheaply made. I asked for a refund and the seller refuses. It actually works, but will probably break down any moment.

There is a reputable company Bellair Industries that sells 2 good models. One is a plastic model around $600and the other more expensive $900 is stainless steel.

free skin care · Thu Oct 25, 2012 6:54 pm

skinhelp wrote:

I purchased a Dermapen type unit from an overseas China company and it is just junk! The device is clearly a knock off and leaks oil, is shoddy plastic and cheaply made. I asked for a refund and the seller refuses. It actually works, but will probably break down any moment.

There is a reputable company Bellair Industries that sells 2 good models. One is a plastic model around $600and the other more expensive $900 is stainless steel.

skinhelp, do you know anyone who has bought either model from Bellair?

free skin care · Tue Nov 06, 2012 3:07 pm

Appears that Dermapen has outsourced some of its training and certification....check out the price wow..
http://needlelogics.com/about/

free skin care · Tue Nov 06, 2012 10:06 pm

Barefootgirl wrote:

Appears that Dermapen has outsourced some of its training and certification....check out the price wow..
http://needlelogics.com/about/

That is NUTS!

free skin care · Wed Nov 07, 2012 3:52 am

bethany,

Why does that concern you?

free skin care · Wed Nov 07, 2012 6:52 am

VeronicaM wrote:

bethany,

Why does that concern you?

Not Bethany but I am sure she is talking about the $7500 price for Dermapen training.

Here is an article from Harper's Bazaar. No real news but there is an interesting quote at the end about wanting the next generation of the Dermapen to inject ingredients simultaneously during the needle use.

The folks at Dermapen acknowledge that they are not reinventing the wheel. "The technology is not groundbreaking," says Chad Milton, CEO and cofounder of the company. "We just innovated something that needed an update." Milton hints that he wants the next generation of the device to do exactly what doctors are hoping for: inject ingredients simultaneously during the needle use.

http://www.dermapen.com/Articles/dermapen-in-septembers-harpers-bazaar.html

free skin care · Tue Nov 13, 2012 6:26 am

It's pretty much a forgone conclusion that I will be purchasing one of these soon, but I wanted to also share a video I recently found on YouTube which addresses some of my earlier questions as to why the Dermapen is alleged to produce same or better results than the roller with less irritation and reduced bleeding:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LpfaRuc0n6Y&feature=youtu.be

BFG

free skin care · Tue Nov 13, 2012 3:32 pm

I had a DermaPen treatment today with the doctor that did my fractional laser treatment two weeks ago. There was no numbing involved. He used 1.5mm needles (or heads or whatever they are called) and a low speed setting. His assistant applied a "vitamin serum" to my face as he treated each area - supposedly to help the device glide over the skin. As long as the DermaPen is moving it doesn't hurt too much, BUT when the DermaPen stops for extra emphasis in certain areas it hurts ALOT. Fortunately the treatment goes pretty quickly.

There was not much blood and the little bleeding that there was stopped quickly. My face is red, but it was still red from the laser two weeks ago so I can't really tell the difference. The doc said the redness from the DermaPen usually goes away in anywhere between a few hours and a few days - depending on the person. He also suggested a follow up session in 3 to 4 weeks - I'll wait and see.

BFG, if there is any way you can have a DermaPen treatment prior to purchasing the device, it might be beneficial. If you are concerned with "self inflicting pain" it might be hard to get around this.

free skin care · Tue Nov 13, 2012 4:09 pm

Panda1 wrote:

I had a DermaPen treatment today with the doctor that did my fractional laser treatment two weeks ago. There was no numbing involved. He used 1.5mm needles (or heads or whatever they are called) and a low speed setting. His assistant applied a "vitamin serum" to my face as he treated each area - supposedly to help the device glide over the skin. As long as the DermaPen is moving it doesn't hurt too much, BUT when the DermaPen stops for extra emphasis in certain areas it hurts ALOT. Fortunately the treatment goes pretty quickly.

There was not much blood and the little bleeding that there was stopped quickly. My face is red, but it was still red from the laser two weeks ago so I can't really tell the difference. The doc said the redness from the DermaPen usually goes away in anywhere between a few hours and a few days - depending on the person. He also suggested a follow up session in 3 to 4 weeks - I'll wait and see..

Hi Panda1, please let us know if you think you got good results from the Dermapen treatment. I am kind of surprised that the doctor did a Dermapen treatment just 2 weeks after a fractional laser session. I thought the thinking was to wait 4 to 6 weeks after. Thanks.

free skin care · Tue Nov 13, 2012 5:12 pm

CookieD wrote:

Panda1 wrote:

I had a DermaPen treatment today with the doctor that did my fractional laser treatment two weeks ago. There was no numbing involved. He used 1.5mm needles (or heads or whatever they are called) and a low speed setting. His assistant applied a "vitamin serum" to my face as he treated each area - supposedly to help the device glide over the skin. As long as the DermaPen is moving it doesn't hurt too much, BUT when the DermaPen stops for extra emphasis in certain areas it hurts ALOT. Fortunately the treatment goes pretty quickly.

There was not much blood and the little bleeding that there was stopped quickly. My face is red, but it was still red from the laser two weeks ago so I can't really tell the difference. The doc said the redness from the DermaPen usually goes away in anywhere between a few hours and a few days - depending on the person. He also suggested a follow up session in 3 to 4 weeks - I'll wait and see..

Hi Panda1, please let us know if you think you got good results from the Dermapen treatment. I am kind of surprised that the doctor did a Dermapen treatment just 2 weeks after a fractional laser session. I thought the thinking was to wait 4 to 6 weeks after. Thanks.

Cookie, I can't remember where I read it, but I did recently read a recommendation to dermaroll 2 weeks after a Fraxel treatment. I think it was to avoid some of the heat related fibrosis or something?

free skin care · Tue Nov 13, 2012 5:13 pm

CookieD wrote:

Hi Panda1, please let us know if you think you got good results from the Dermapen treatment. I am kind of surprised that the doctor did a Dermapen treatment just 2 weeks after a fractional laser session. I thought the thinking was to wait 4 to 6 weeks after. Thanks.

I should clarify - I only had the laser around my eyes and my mouth. Today the doc did the other areas with the pen - kinda looking to blend everything, but he did repeat the upper lip area. Not sure how I will be able to tell the results of one treatment from the other, and I am pouring on the Lifeline as well.

free skin care · Tue Nov 13, 2012 9:42 pm

bethany wrote:

Cookie, I can't remember where I read it, but I did recently read a recommendation to dermaroll 2 weeks after a Fraxel treatment. I think it was to avoid some of the heat related fibrosis or something?

Hi Bethany, if you come across the article where you saw that information please post the link. I would love to be able to do a roll after only 2 weeks if I was sure I wasn't doing more harm then good. Thanks.

free skin care · Wed Nov 14, 2012 1:38 am

Cookie, can you share why you are thinking of rolling, having done Reaura? I'm very unclear about what to do alongside the laser.. Not sure if it'd be suitable to do Stop treatments, either. Embarassed

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