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Tue Jan 19, 2016 11:10 am  |
Hi all,
Just received my Retin-A and will be using it for the first time. Is it okay to use Retin-a after a BHA exfoliant? I've heard that salicylic acid products deactivate tretinoin, but I've also heard that this is a myth, so I'm unsure what to believe. If anyone has research, please share it. So far I'm inclined to believe it is okay to use both nightly, as this PC article says.
http://www.paulaschoice.com/expert-advice/beauty-buzz/_/six-retinol-myths-busted
Another question: does the skin have to be completely dry when applying it? I read this in the instructions, but I'm wondering if anyone can elaborate on that and show me where they found the info.
Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks! |
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Wed Jan 20, 2016 4:29 am |
It's not that one will deactivate the other but it's easy to strip and stress your skin when you use both, especially when starting out on RA. If you've never used RA before you will find it drying at first (even if you have oily skin) and inclined to be irritating.
I tried using RA and AHA at first and I found it was too much for me on a regular basis. Of course I did use high % aha...no half measures for me. A low % bha might be fine but you may want to build up your tolerance for RA first.
As far as using RA on damp skin...don't even think about it at first. It will irritate the crap out of your skin.
Later on...6 months to a year in...you may find you can do it with no problems. I can now but it's a mistake in the beginning..It just depends on how sensitive you are as to whether you ever can.
But don't do it when you're building up a tolerance and adjusting to it. |
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Wed Jan 20, 2016 6:14 am |
| tigerlily009 wrote: |
It's not that one will deactivate the other but it's easy to strip and stress your skin when you use both, especially when starting out on RA. If you've never used RA before you will find it drying at first (even if you have oily skin) and inclined to be irritating.
I tried using RA and AHA at first and I found it was too much for me on a regular basis. Of course I did use high % aha...no half measures for me. A low % bha might be fine but you may want to build up your tolerance for RA first.
As far as using RA on damp skin...don't even think about it at first. It will irritate the crap out of your skin.
Later on...6 months to a year in...you may find you can do it with no problems. I can now but it's a mistake in the beginning..It just depends on how sensitive you are as to whether you ever can.
But don't do it when you're building up a tolerance and adjusting to it. |
Thanks for answering, tigerlily009!
Oh okay, so it's just about the irritation factor. I have been trying to build up my skin for Retin-A for a while, so hopefully it all goes well. I have used a high concentration Retinol product daily for months now and am starting slowly just using a bit of the Retin-A in combination with that.
Got it, I'll let my skin dry before applying the Retin-A. Just to make sure, damp skin includes skin with lotion too, right? I apply toner immediately after my shower, so it takes a bit to sink in. Is it still better to wait even if it's got that moisturizing buffer rather than just plain water? Hopefully that makes sense the way I explained it.
Thanks again, I appreciate the help. |
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Wed Jan 20, 2016 10:49 am |
| I've used RetinA .025% gel for two years and I still wait half an hour. I don't like massive peeling. I still get great results and have no plans to increase the strength since medical studies have shown there is no benefit nor does it speed results or give better results. Slow and steady win the race. Why spend more when you don't have to? |
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Thu Jan 21, 2016 8:00 pm |
| SoftSkin wrote: |
| I've used RetinA .025% gel for two years and I still wait half an hour. I don't like massive peeling. I still get great results and have no plans to increase the strength since medical studies have shown there is no benefit nor does it speed results or give better results. Slow and steady win the race. Why spend more when you don't have to? |
Thanks for the input, SoftSkin. I wasn't aware that there was no benefit for using a higher concentration. Any more info you can share on this? If that's true it makes me wonder why they even have the higher concentrations at all. |
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Thu Jan 21, 2016 8:33 pm |
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| I wasn't aware that there was no benefit for using a higher concentration. Any more info you can share on this? If that's true it makes me wonder why they even have the higher concentrations at all. |
It's always about money. I think I may have seen the medical study linked or quoted at makeupalley.com's skincare forum. |
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Sun Mar 20, 2016 3:05 am |
| SoftSkin wrote: |
| I've used RetinA .025% gel for two years and I still wait half an hour. I don't like massive peeling. I still get great results and have no plans to increase the strength since medical studies have shown there is no benefit nor does it speed results or give better results. Slow and steady win the race. Why spend more when you don't have to? |
I really appreciate to see your reply, I am 25+, and my skin begins to show fine lines, so that is why I found this forum, and eager to find some solutions out. I had ordered some retinal and Vit. C products with really high concentration... I think I am over-stepped after see your reply, and I think I will change them to low concentrations. Just thx so much, before I ruin my skin. |
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Sun Mar 20, 2016 3:12 am |
| SoftSkin wrote: |
| I've used RetinA .025% gel for two years and I still wait half an hour. I don't like massive peeling. I still get great results and have no plans to increase the strength since medical studies have shown there is no benefit nor does it speed results or give better results. Slow and steady win the race. Why spend more when you don't have to? |
I really appreciate to see your reply, I am 25+, and my skin begins to show fine lines, so that is why I found this forum, and eager to find some solutions out. I had ordered some retinal and Vit. C products with really high concentration... I think I am over-stepped after see your reply, and I think I will change them to low concentrations. Just thx so much, before I ruin my skin. |
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Sat Mar 26, 2016 5:54 pm |
| epmarshall wrote: |
Hi all,
Just received my Retin-A and will be using it for the first time. Is it okay to use Retin-a after a BHA exfoliant? I've heard that salicylic acid products deactivate tretinoin, but I've also heard that this is a myth, so I'm unsure what to believe. If anyone has research, please share it. So far I'm inclined to believe it is okay to use both nightly, as this PC article says.
http://www.paulaschoice.com/expert-advice/beauty-buzz/_/six-retinol-myths-busted
Another question: does the skin have to be completely dry when applying it? I read this in the instructions, but I'm wondering if anyone can elaborate on that and show me where they found the info.
Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks! |
I do when I was younger. I would start gradual and if your skin can't take it, then I would not.
I used BHA during the day and retin-a at night, but today, now that I am older, I would not. |
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Sun May 22, 2016 5:25 pm |
| Can anyone tell me whether or not I should be using a nighttime moisturizer over my melamix and tretonoin? I use a moisturizer in the am but not in the pm. It seem as though the products won't work as well with it in the pm. I'm afraid I won't peel if I put the moisturizer over it.My doctor said am. I have read that a lot of people use moisturizer both am and pm. |
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Tue May 24, 2016 3:14 pm |
| Dhana33 wrote: |
| Can anyone tell me whether or not I should be using a nighttime moisturizer over my melamix and tretonoin? I use a moisturizer in the am but not in the pm. It seem as though the products won't work as well with it in the pm. I'm afraid I won't peel if I put the moisturizer over it.My doctor said am. I have read that a lot of people use moisturizer both am and pm. |
I'm not familiar with Melamix although I do know it's a skin lightener... but Tretinoin is not suppose to make you peel. It's not a peeling agent like TCA. It tends to be irritating at first and may cause some dryness and peeling but after the skin adjusts it should be much more subtle in encouraging skin cell turnover. If it's making you peel than you haven't adapted to it yet.
A lot of people do use a moisturizer over it to minimize the irritation or if it dries their skin out too much. It will dilute the Tretinoin somewhat, yes.. but the less irritating to your skin the better off you are. Irritation to your skin is not something you want to last for any lengthy time as it is ultimately damaging to continue to irritate your skin.
So it's perfectly fine to moisturize over the tretinoin. You won't be getting full strength but you'll still be getting some benefits. |
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