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Tue Jun 06, 2006 6:10 am  |
Amnis, I think a bunch of us may have reported her and her website is still up, what a shame. 
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Just put whatever in the first field, your email address in the second, her web address in the third and in the comments box I don't know if English would go over well so include "Dierlijke wreedheid" in there which translates to animal abuse. Hopefully they'll get the picture!
I'm not sure what else to do though |
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Tue Jun 06, 2006 2:30 pm |
| PhoebesMeow wrote: |
Amnis, I think a bunch of us may have reported her and her website is still up, what a shame.
And then
Just put whatever in the first field, your email address in the second, her web address in the third and in the comments box I don't know if English would go over well so include "Dierlijke wreedheid" in there which translates to animal abuse. Hopefully they'll get the picture!
I'm not sure what else to do though |
Yes, it may still be up but perhaps there is strength in numbers if more people email and complain. Sometimes that's what works and in this case, I wish it would.
Thanks for the info.
'am still sickened beyond belief... |
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Thu Jun 08, 2006 12:19 am |
Thanks Lolli,
It's nice to know I wasn't entirely alone on this topic. |
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Thu Jun 08, 2006 9:16 am |
| SHE SOLD BE PUT IN JAIL! If this is true, she is clearly got a problem. Whether you like animals (cats) or not, how could you do this to any animal. Here's an idea, how about she get what she gives! |
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Thu Jun 08, 2006 9:32 am |
| I must admit that I'd rather like her to be made into a handbag. Then see how she likes that as Art. |
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Thu Jun 08, 2006 4:52 pm |
| bergquis wrote: |
| SHE SOLD BE PUT IN JAIL! If this is true, she is clearly got a problem. Whether you like animals (cats) or not, how could you do this to any animal. Here's an idea, how about she get what she gives! |
are you vegan?
the straight dope on human skin souveniers
also this talks about books bound in human skin and also makes mention of the tattoo trophies collected by nazis. |
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Thu Jun 08, 2006 4:55 pm |
as someone who has prepared an animal for food, i guess i'm just as sick and twisted as her.
yet somehow, separating oneself from the entire act of killing and dressing an animal makes one morally superior.
there's them what kills the meat and them that just eats it.
I must admit that I'd rather like karl lagerfeld to be made into a handbag. Then see how he likes that as Fashion. |
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Thu Jun 08, 2006 5:20 pm |
You don't have to be a vegan to be outraged by this, and it is not hypocritical in my opinion.
The sad fact is that this web-site is so horrifying because this woman is talking about a PET. That is the simple distiction between killing your cat and eating meat. It is much easier for society to be able to eat meat and wear leather because these animals are farmed for this purpose. I am not saying it is right, and I am an avid supporter of animal rights and my chosen charity is the RSPCA (the Royal Society for Protection and Care of Animals, in Australia). I have boycotted eating some fish because they are being fished out and becoming extinct and also will not purchase wool anymore (although I love it) because of the way these sheep are penned up and not allowed to roam free (they chew all day on there wooden cages as they can't chew on grass). I also only purchase free range eggs, and those that are checked and endorsed by the RSPCA even though they are much more expensive. These are small things that I do to feel like I might impact on animal rights - I've tried going vegetarian but it's just not practical for me. Also, I have no problem with the hunting of feral cats in the wild as they kill our native animals.
This web-site is disgusting as it displays no emotion on this women's part, and I assume from the posts that none of us here could cope with our * spam * cats being killed at all, let alone for some sick idea of fashion. |
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Fri Jun 09, 2006 1:12 am |
| melissa49 wrote: |
| The sad fact is that this web-site is so horrifying because this woman is talking about a PET. That is the simple distiction between killing your cat and eating meat. It is much easier for society to be able to eat meat and wear leather because these animals are farmed for this purpose. |
what i'm saying is that the fact that the animal is a cat doesn't automatically mean that she had a human/pet relationship with the animal as we would classify it.
yes, cats are usually pets.
rabbits are also sometimes pets, but sometimes farmed for other purposes.
if someone has bonded with their animal, that's fine and healthy, and i'm down with that (i've bonded with many animals in my life that i would never even think of killing, eating or skinning) This ranges from your average cat/dog, to goats and even a turkey--who frankly had more personality than the goats. Turk became a full-fledged pet, even though he was originally intended for Thanksgiving dinner. We raised himfor food, but he had such character we couldn't do it.
Just because the cats that WE own are a part of our family doesn't mean that a cat has to be a pet as we tend to think of it.
If she did not have that intimate interaction with her cat, which i am assuming she did not--as she was able to carry out her project. Would it then be so horrific?
If I go to the Chinese Market and buy a live chicken to take home and use for my own purposes, is that all that different from buying a cat to take home for my own purposes? |
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Fri Jun 09, 2006 3:04 am |
"If I go to the Chinese Market and buy a live chicken to take home and use for my own purposes, is that all that different from buying a cat to take home for my own purposes?"
No, not if you are taking it home to make a bag out of it. It's still sickening, and I don't care if this cat was purchased for the purpose of making a bag (although they are usually sold for the purpose of becoming a pet), I till think she is obsene. All I was saying is that people have reacted as being horrified (and have every right to feel horrified) because most people know cats as pets and most people, myself included, love my cat to death and would hate anything to ever happen to it and it sickens me that someone would kill their cat (pet or not) to make a bag out of.
PS.IMO you don't own cats, cats own you (well mine owns me and my partner  - you know, the old "dogs have masters, cats have slaves.....") |
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Fri Jun 09, 2006 9:33 am |
| pustekuchen wrote: |
as someone who has prepared an animal for food, i guess i'm just as sick and twisted as her.
yet somehow, separating oneself from the entire act of killing and dressing an animal makes one morally superior.
there's them what kills the meat and them that just eats it.
I must admit that I'd rather like karl lagerfeld to be made into a handbag. Then see how he likes that as Fashion. |
I work for an animal charity, pustekuchen, and I see, hear about and deal with some pretty terrible cruelty cases. You wouldn't believe some of the things that humans do to animals. It sometimes makes me physically sick, and human beings are now not my favourite species, for sure.
To me, raising and then killing an animal for food purposes in order to survive (as long as they are treated humanely until death) is just not on the same par as adopting a pet, loving it, encouraging it to trust you and then slaughtering it and making it into a handbag for the specific purpose of horrifying people via a website, whilst describing it as Art.
She is an attention-seeker, who wants to shock and disgust people in a "Look at me!" way.
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| what i'm saying is that the fact that the animal is a cat doesn't automatically mean that she had a human/pet relationship with the animal as we would classify it. |
Well, this quote from her website manual would appear to suggest that she did have a human/pet relationship with the cat:
"Just follow the steps on the easy-to-do manual and create your own fashionable purse from your dearest cat."
Buying a chicken to kill and eat is just not the same as keeping and loving a pet for several years and then killing it as a publicity stunt, as far as I'm concerned.
And no, I'm not a vegan, but I am very choosy about where I buy meat and eggs - free-range and from a local supplier where I can actually see for myself that the animals look healthy and well-treated whilst they are alive. Unfortunately, because of a medical condition, I couldn't become a vegan, no matter how much I wanted to, so no use telling me that this is being hypocritical. Although I can now eat most things most of the time, if I want to live during a flare-up, then I have to eat at least some meat because of the limitations imposed upon me by my digestive system.
If I adopted a cow or a pig as a pet and grew to love it, then I couldn't eat it. Now you may think that's hypocritical on my part.
That handbag girl has betrayed the trust shown to her by a so-called "dear" pet. My own definitely dear cat will likely not last much longer and I am currently trying to make her last days as happy as possible. There's no way I would ever kill her and make her into a handbag. I just wish she didn't have a brain tumour. So excuse me if my arguments are sounding somewhat emotional. |
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Sat Jun 10, 2006 4:21 am |
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Sat Jun 10, 2006 11:22 am |
| majorb wrote: |
That handbag girl has betrayed the trust shown to her by a so-called "dear" pet. My own definitely dear cat will likely not last much longer and I am currently trying to make her last days as happy as possible. There's no way I would ever kill her and make her into a handbag. I just wish she didn't have a brain tumour. So excuse me if my arguments are sounding somewhat emotional. |
My heart goes out to you. Your cat is lucky to have you. |
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Sun Jun 11, 2006 12:07 pm |
Thanks, amnis, but it's the other way round - it's me who's lucky to have her. She's been my almost constant companion for 11 years now (she was 7 when we adopted her).
She's reacting well to her latest steroid injection (for other medical conditions) and it's just a question of getting the timing right. I absolutely don't want her to suffer, so will care for her until the time comes when she is ready to go, and then we'll let her go - gently, I do so hope.
Sorry to go off-topic. It's just that I love that little cat so much. |
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Sun Jun 11, 2006 1:19 pm |
The owner of the tinkerbell site also mentions that "I looove my cat" which is kind of ironic...
I have seen a commercial website which I had the curious misfortune to click on which makes TOAD bags... |
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