Need product recs for skin barrier repair and maintenance
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Mon Feb 27, 2017 7:23 am

I desperately need help. My skin went crazy a couple of months ago - suddenly went red and hot like a bad sunburn as well as hypersensitive. After a very miserable weekend, I have been able to get it under some control but still haves flares of my skin getting red, hot, itchy. I have been researching and I am quite sure that I need to repair the skin barrier. I am over 60 and look younger but need to deal with the dryness and this hypersensitivity. I have found some Nuxe products that have been working OK and not causing a flare. At night I have been using the Rev de Miel cream (day) but it hasn't been soaking in even by morning. That is their skin barrier product. I put some LRP Sustaine on this weekend and am paying for that 1 application with a return of red, hot and itch face. Are there any other barrier repair products you could suggest? Skinceuticals has the Triple Lipid Restore - has anyone tried this?

Mon Feb 27, 2017 6:10 pm

Maybe it's an allergic reaction to something. If it's getting itchy and there are some rashes you better go to your local dermatologist to get some answers.

Mon Feb 27, 2017 8:02 pm

Thanks for the response. I thought allergy at first although very atypical. First episode was like an instant really bad sunburn. I was in the house in December with temps in the teens. My skin was hot, red, itchy, and very sensitive. The episodes since haven't been as severe but still very uncomfortable. Some clear up in a day but the first one took a week to clear. Nothing has been the same with these and I've been researching and a disruption of the skin barrier really sounds like what is going on. The articles mention a lot of things to look for in products to help but the ratio is supposed to be important. I found some that sound like they might work but hoping for some help. I've spent a ton of money already trying to find something. Nude Creme Prodigeuse is working great during the day. The Nuxe Reve de Miel is ok. I was just hoping for something that would work a little better. Pevonia looked like they had some options. So did Vivant, Osmotics, Vivier, and Vichy. And the Skinceuticals one.

free skin care · Mon Feb 27, 2017 11:17 pm

I would avoid Vichy and skinceuticals, full of carinogens like parabens and sulphates. I would look for more natural products.

Tue Feb 28, 2017 6:29 am

Thank you. Any suggestions? I haven't had much luck with products I have tried from Eminence and Dermalogica. I tried the Pevonia Rosacea line and not very hydrating. I tried some from Avene but maybe the wrong things since also not very hydrating. The same with LaRoche Posay. LRP had a professional line years ago and their was a moisturizer that worked well but that is no longer available. I tried some PCA moisturizers and just OK - even their Skincoat Balm.

Maybe just adding a serum for some anti-aging/firming and staying with the Nuxe Reve de Miel would be an option? I love the Nuxe Crème Prodigeuse for day even though I use the night cream - perfect for under makeup.

free skin care · Tue Feb 28, 2017 6:35 am

Nia24 moisturizer & squalane, macadamia and jojoba oils and a gentle cleanser (Liz Earle is perfect for this). Look no further!

Tue Feb 28, 2017 8:06 am

After I posted, I realized I hadn't mentioned that I have tried NIA 24. That was a few years ago and at that time I wasn't having the issues I am having now. I did love it but can only use it occasionally like every 3 days. While Niacinamide is supposed to help with sensitive skin, if I use this more often than that, I would get warm and red. It is an awesome product though especially the intensive cream. I'd be willing to try again if I could get a small size of it.

Even washing my face throws it off right now. I am using micellar water and/or a toner for sensitive skin.

free skin care · Wed Mar 01, 2017 1:19 am

la mer is famous for skin repair. many of my friends used it for couple months and found it stabilize their skins. it even turns one's sensitive skin into a normal one.

i personally haven't tried it. but the order is on the way.

alternatively I like pola. pls refer to my post below.

http://www.essentialdayspa.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=54287

Marie20 wrote:

I desperately need help. My skin went crazy a couple of months ago - suddenly went red and hot like a bad sunburn as well as hypersensitive. After a very miserable weekend, I have been able to get it under some control but still haves flares of my skin getting red, hot, itchy. I have been researching and I am quite sure that I need to repair the skin barrier. I am over 60 and look younger but need to deal with the dryness and this hypersensitivity. I have found some Nuxe products that have been working OK and not causing a flare. At night I have been using the Rev de Miel cream (day) but it hasn't been soaking in even by morning. That is their skin barrier product. I put some LRP Sustaine on this weekend and am paying for that 1 application with a return of red, hot and itch face. Are there any other barrier repair products you could suggest? Skinceuticals has the Triple Lipid Restore - has anyone tried this?

free skin care · Wed Mar 01, 2017 9:41 am

ying0101 - thank you for the info. I ordered a small la mer to try that out. It sounds soothing. I am looking at some Babor ones too that might be options to get things under control or keep them once there. I need to see if there are any reviews of their products.

I found my old account so my name is updated to my original one.

free skin care · Wed Mar 01, 2017 10:03 am

Jamie - do you buy these from anywhere particular in London? Just curious if you do as I'm a Londoner too and have to order online which annoys me a great deal

LondonJamie wrote:

Nia24 moisturizer & squalane, macadamia and jojoba oils and a gentle cleanser (Liz Earle is perfect for this). Look no further!

free skin care · Thu Mar 02, 2017 5:29 am

TheresaMary wrote:

Jamie - do you buy these from anywhere particular in London? Just curious if you do as I'm a Londoner too and have to order online which annoys me a great deal

LondonJamie wrote:

Nia24 moisturizer & squalane, macadamia and jojoba oils and a gentle cleanser (Liz Earle is perfect for this). Look no further!

Hi Theresa, NIA24 I order off Amazon (Spacenk no longer stock it) and I buy my oils from Timeless along with the vitamin C serum. Liz Earle online or boots. HTH.

free skin care · Thu Mar 02, 2017 6:49 am

I've ordered a whole bunch of things to try - some that sound more pharmaceutical that might just be helpful in the healing process rather than long term. For that I ordered the Crème de la mer, Osmotics Cream Extreme Intensive Repair, and Babor Skinovage Lipid Intense Cream.

I also ordered an anti-inflammatory serum from Laurel Whole Plant Organics that looks promising. These are the ingredients:
Jojoba Oil*, Borage Oil*, Rosehip Seed Oil*, Evening Primrose Oil*, Olive Oil*, Red Raspberry Seed Oil*, Almond Oil*, Pomegranate Seed Oil*, Cranberry Seed Oil*, Tamanu Oil*, Sea Buckthorn Oil*, Rosemary Extract*; in-house biodynamic proprietary blend of Chamomile*, Licorice*, Marshmallow*, Baical Skullcap*, Calendula*, Lavender*, Nettle*, Gotu Kola*, Astragalus*, Comfrey*; essential oils of Helichrysum*, Lemon Balm*, Neroli*, Blue Chamomile*, Myrrh*. *Organic Ingredient

I'll post back as I try these. I usually do half my face with something new and keep the other half as the control. My order for the serum includes some samples of some Pia Skincare products too. I'm excited for all of these to arrive so I can find something that will make my skin look good but more importantly feel good.

free skin care · Tue Mar 07, 2017 6:57 am

Products have been arriving so the trials have begun.

Osmotics Cream Extreme wasn't too heavy, sunk in well and left my skin feeling great. The 2nd night I used this, the side with this on felt warm and a little pink. This was a day without any usual triggers and my skin wasn't feeling overly sensitive. I'm not giving up on it but maybe once my skin is under better control.

Atopalm Intensive Moisturizing - didn't feel greasy but almost waxy. Not something I want to use all the time but might help when my skin is feeling raw.

Laurel Whole Plant Organic Anti-Inflammatory Oil - I do like this.

Sunday I had a bit of a flare brought on by work stress. The Atopalm didn't help with the redness and warmth. I found some Dermelect cream from December. My skin was too sensitive to use then but that did seem to help with the redness and cool things down. I tried the Eucerin Redness Relief and it didn't seem to help as much. Went to a Derm a while ago and not rosacea but very reactive rosacea like skin. It's been a long time since it has been this reactive though. Sad

Pevonia Rosacea products - I had the trial set and tried that last night. I like how the products made my face feel last night and this morning but the smell was so strong I had to fight taking it off. I don't think that add artificial fragrance but this was way too rose perfumey smelling which is disappointing. No issues with my skin but the smell was so overpowering and I am not overly sensitive to fragrance. I could still smell it in the morning. There is some hope for this brand though - maybe the Sensitive or Dry line? I know I had a facial and they used Pevonia products. That was a few years ago but I think it was the sensitive line.

La Mer is out for delivery and that is the plan for tonight.

free skin care · Tue Mar 07, 2017 7:14 am

Marie - please keep us posted. I want to know your experience with La mer....

i plan to do some laser next month, and want to use la mer as after care....

Marie1120 wrote:

Products have been arriving so the trials have begun.

Osmotics Cream Extreme wasn't too heavy, sunk in well and left my skin feeling great. The 2nd night I used this, the side with this on felt warm and a little pink. This was a day without any usual triggers and my skin wasn't feeling overly sensitive. I'm not giving up on it but maybe once my skin is under better control.

Atopalm Intensive Moisturizing - didn't feel greasy but almost waxy. Not something I want to use all the time but might help when my skin is feeling raw.

Laurel Whole Plant Organic Anti-Inflammatory Oil - I do like this.

Sunday I had a bit of a flare brought on by work stress. The Atopalm didn't help with the redness and warmth. I found some Dermelect cream from December. My skin was too sensitive to use then but that did seem to help with the redness and cool things down. I tried the Eucerin Redness Relief and it didn't seem to help as much. Went to a Derm a while ago and not rosacea but very reactive rosacea like skin. It's been a long time since it has been this reactive though. Sad

Pevonia Rosacea products - I had the trial set and tried that last night. I like how the products made my face feel last night and this morning but the smell was so strong I had to fight taking it off. I don't think that add artificial fragrance but this was way too rose perfumey smelling which is disappointing. No issues with my skin but the smell was so overpowering and I am not overly sensitive to fragrance. I could still smell it in the morning. There is some hope for this brand though - maybe the Sensitive or Dry line? I know I had a facial and they used Pevonia products. That was a few years ago but I think it was the sensitive line.

La Mer is out for delivery and that is the plan for tonight.

free skin care · Tue Mar 07, 2017 7:49 am

ying0101 wrote:

Marie - please keep us posted. I want to know your experience with La mer....

i plan to do some laser next month, and want to use la mer as after care....

I will. I am excited to try it.

free skin care · Fri Mar 10, 2017 6:43 am

Initial thoughts on La Mer...
For 3 nights I have used the Crème de La Mer (original formula) on half my face. I have a sample of the Skinceuticals Triple Lipid and using that right now on the other half.

La Mer is very thick. They say to let this warm up in your hands. Maybe I need to run them under hot water first. Once on, it isn't greasy. My skin hasn't had a bad reaction and feels very soft. It is definitely occlusive and has a bit of a paraffin coating feeling. I need to wash my face in the morning and even then I am not sure I have all of it removed. This morning I had one red bump that could be from the occlusiveness of this. Atopalm felt very similar and I might use that on the other half once I am done with my SC sample. Atopalm goes on easier. I only used that one night so I need to try it again before I compare these anymore. The plan is to continue using it for now unless I run into an issue with it.

Skinceuticals Triple Lipid - again only a few nights but I am happy to report no redness or irritation from this. My skin felt good. Not as soft and smooth as the La Mer side but the SC is much thinner and doesn't seem to be occlusive. I think this is one that you need to use longer to see results.

free skin care · Sat Mar 11, 2017 3:23 am

Thanks Marie for the feedback....I heard that if we mix one drop of La mer concentrate, it will make the creme much easier to apply on the face without any warm-up needed....

Marie1120 wrote:

Initial thoughts on La Mer...
For 3 nights I have used the Crème de La Mer (original formula) on half my face. I have a sample of the Skinceuticals Triple Lipid and using that right now on the other half.

La Mer is very thick. They say to let this warm up in your hands. Maybe I need to run them under hot water first. Once on, it isn't greasy. My skin hasn't had a bad reaction and feels very soft. It is definitely occlusive and has a bit of a paraffin coating feeling. I need to wash my face in the morning and even then I am not sure I have all of it removed. This morning I had one red bump that could be from the occlusiveness of this. Atopalm felt very similar and I might use that on the other half once I am done with my SC sample. Atopalm goes on easier. I only used that one night so I need to try it again before I compare these anymore. The plan is to continue using it for now unless I run into an issue with it.

Skinceuticals Triple Lipid - again only a few nights but I am happy to report no redness or irritation from this. My skin felt good. Not as soft and smooth as the La Mer side but the SC is much thinner and doesn't seem to be occlusive. I think this is one that you need to use longer to see results.

free skin care · Mon Mar 13, 2017 5:17 pm

Thanks Ying0101. I might try a different serum to help with the La Mer. I took a few days off after another bump showed up. I am happy to say I am having some luck. I thought the Babur Sinovage (lipid one) was going to be a hit but a couple hours after putting it on, I started to feel the burn. I went back and saw that niacinimide was in there but way at the end. Not sure that this is a trigger ingredient but has been a common thread.

I found 2 that have worked for my dry hypersensitive skin. Epionnce Renewal Face Cream - comes in a jar but not very thick. Soaks in nicely and my skin feels soft and hydrated. The other hit is Cellex-C Hydrasmooth. Doesn't feel quite as moisturizing but skin still feels soft.

I do want to get back to the La Mer and experiment more with that. I read that German Nivea is similar so I ordered some to try as my control. Maybe some sea algae serum under it.

More to try - Dr H, Annemarie Bolind etc as time allows.

I'm happy to find some things for night to help along with the Nuxe In the morning.

free skin care · Tue Mar 21, 2017 5:47 pm

I just bought one from Doterra called CorrectX. Its more of a spot treatment and I used it just once on a weird cyst thing on my leg that I needled at 2.00mm. It has been really red, this stuff healed it fast.

free skin care · Wed Mar 22, 2017 11:04 am

I have used some other Doterra products. I will check that out. Thanks.

free skin care · Sun Feb 03, 2019 6:11 pm

Nia 24 Strengthening complex

free skin care · Mon Feb 18, 2019 7:03 pm

It's better to go to the dermatology department of the hospital and choose targeted drugs. I think maybe your skin is allergic.

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