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free skin care · Fri Apr 07, 2006 10:17 am

Chrissie wrote:

but isnt this the same concept of silicone products...coat the hair so its not so fly-away???

Yes, but there are different types of silicones:

"Silicones are viscous oily liquids that coat the hair shaft in gloss, giving the illusion of healthy sheen. As most curly hair tends to be dry and often frizzy, silicones seem like the miracle ingredient to combat these complaints. The downside is that MOST silicones are not water soluble, and can only be removed with harsh detergents. The very detergents needed to remove the silicones strip the hair of all its natural oils, leaving it stripped and straw-like. This causes the user to think she needs more silicones to combat the dryness. Thus, the cycle begins again. If the user is not using these harsh detergents to remove the silicones, they can build up, creating a barrier on the hair shaft. This barrier prevents moisturizing conditioners from penetrating the hair, further drying it out."

How do you know whether it's water soluble or not? Here's a cheat sheet:

• Amodimethicone - not soluble in water by itself;
• Amodimethicone (and) Trideceth-12 (and) Cetrimonium Chloride - mixture that is soluble in water in the bottle;
• Behenoxy Dimethicone - sparingly soluble in water
• Cetearyl methicone - not soluble in water
• Cetyl Dimethicone - not soluble in water
• Cyclomethicone - not soluble in water
• Cyclopentasiloxane - not soluble in water
• Dimethicone - not soluble in water
• Dimethicone Copolyol - water soluble
• Dimethiconol - not soluble in water
• Hydrolyzed Wheat Protein Hydroxypropyl Polysiloxane - water soluble
• Stearoxy Dimethicone - sparingly soluble in water
• Stearyl Dimethicone - not soluble in water
• Trimethylsilylamodimethicone - not soluble in water
• Lauryl methicone copolyol - water soluble

My feeling is that using a shampoo or conditioner containing water-soluable silicones is not harmful to my hair so I don't worry too much about it. I *do* try to avoid products containing copius amounts of the other silicones, but so long is it isn't listed in the first 3-5 ingredients on the list, then I believe it's safe to use.

BTW, you do not need a shampoo containing harsh sulfates or chemicals to strip build-up from your hair. All you need to do is add a bit of baking soda or ACV to your shampoo (I do NOT recommend adding baking soda directly to your shampoo bottle because it causes the shampoo to fizz and expand -- think of those old volcanic eruptions made from mixing baking soda and vinegar at the 5th grade Science Fair projects!) and it will cut right through any buildup on the hair, leaving you with super-clean, super-shiny hair.

HTH,
Carrie

free skin care · Mon Oct 02, 2006 12:59 pm

ellyp wrote:

amaska wrote:

Will love to hear some more ideas on how i can combat the itch!

Have you tried making an oil treatment (coconut, olive and/or avocado) and letting it stay in your hair overnight? That might be really comforting for your scalp if you concentrate it up there as you put it in. It's really nice for your hair as well.

Oh yeah, along those same lines: make an oil treatment like Elly describes BUT also include either a few drops of Rosemary essential oil OR use/make an oil treatment infused with dried Rosemary leaves. Rosemary is EXCELLENT for any sort of scalp issues.

To make your own infused oil, pour approx 1/2 cup of oil (olive, coconut, jojoba, avocado, whatever you’ve got on hand!) into a glass jar and then add 1/4 dried Rosemary leaves and tighten lid on. Place jar in a sunny window for at least a week to allow the Rosemary leaves to infuse the oil. After the allotted time has expired, pour mixture through a tea strainer or piece of cheesecloth to separate the leaves from the oil and toss leaves in garbage. I make this stuff in advance and always keep a jar handy to do a hot oil treatment for my hair, or use it as a pre-coloring protein treatment when I color my hair or tint my lashes....

(On the other hand, you can just mix about 30 drops of Rosemary EO to ½ cup of oil instead of using the dried Rosemary leaves.)

Then apply rosemary oil to freshly shampooed, towel-dried hair and leave on for at least an hour (the longer the better). If you’ve got one handy, cover your hair with an old plastic shower cap (the plastic cap will seal in your body’s heat thereby creating the effect of sitting under a hooded dryer for hot oil treatment!

I used the Rosemary infused oil this weekend when I tinted my lashes and it turned out luuurrrvvverly! Very Happy

free skin care · Tue Sep 04, 2007 3:29 pm

bkkgirl wrote:

Is all Pantene Pro-V supposed to be bad for your hair, or is the newer version, i.e. Ice Shine or Red Expressions ok? I went to the longhair website, and someone was raving about the Pantene Pro-V Red Expressions that it was just awesome. I recall that I used to love my Pro-V, too, but mine was just the regular one. Then I read Carekate's message that Pro V will damage your hair because it leaves a lot of buildup. I had to shampoo my hair with baking soda for a while to get rid of the buildups.

So is it ok to use the newer Pro-Vs?

I just checked the ingredients of the Red Expressions conditioner and the ingredients don't thrill me. It's got A LOT of silicones in it, so you'll need to use a clarifying shampoo regularly to remove the buildup so your hair doesn't "suffocate" and/or become parched because the hydrating ingredients can't penetrate.

The "Color Revival" shampoo (supposed to partner with the Red Expressions conditioner) does contain sulfates so I'd definitely steer clear of it -- especially if you color your hair red -- because the color will fade in a heartbeat. If you color your hair red, it should be MANDATORY that you use a sulfate-free shampoo because reds fade so quickly!

Just for grins, I also checked the new "Ice Shine" Pantene line and it's also got sulfates and lots of silicones so I, personally, would steer clear of it, too.

IMO, the new Pantene products don't appear to be any better for one's hair then the older formulations....

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