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Fri Mar 09, 2007 11:46 pm      Reply with quote
Poohlisey and lunarmm, sorry for the delay in answering, but I just saw your questions on this thread.

Pooh, I don't use anything on my skin before I use the DermaWand. I just wash, dry and then use the DW, and follow treatment with my toner and moisturizers. I probably should put something on my skin, but I'm really just using it right now to treat some breakouts and find that it works very well for that purpose. I have no idea if you could use camellia oil just before using the DW. Maybe you should e-mail their customer service people and ask that question, but I don't see why using the oil would be a problem.

lunarmm, what makes it "new and improved" are the number of cycles per second at which it pulses - 114,000 - I guess the prior models were in the low to mid 90,000 cycles. The website says this new version with 114,000 CPS is a professional grade version. Who knows if that's true or not?
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Wed Apr 25, 2007 1:43 pm      Reply with quote
boski wrote:
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I have the Oxylight (still don't get the differences between these two devices) and I LOVE it. Just this morning, I used it for one puffy eye to stimulate the lymph nodes and all over. I agree, the glow is wonderful and it is a lovely device that I use again and again. Well, well worth the investment.


I used to have the Oxylight and broke the tip so I went to get a new one. By chance, the major US distributor lives nearby and I went and talked to him. He was just rolling out the Dermawand at the time. He said the main difference beside the shape (I liked the ergonomics of the Oxylight) was that the Dermawand was much more powerful. He demonstrated the difference between the top setting on the Oxylight and the top setting on the Dermawand and there is a big difference. The higher setting is good for zapping blemishes, but not needed for general facial toning in my opinion.


Excellent, thanks, Boski! Now, I will have to look into the Dermawand for more powah!

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Fri Dec 11, 2009 11:32 pm      Reply with quote
Lacy53,

I believe that extra time is need for pH adjustment.

There is an entire thread that Kelliu pointed to, where quite knowledgeable people (Tangal and others ) had explained it all in details. If you disagree you can easily debate it there.

I also find it in rather poor taste that you only decided to chime in once you had seen Kassy's post and had seen an opportunity to criticise. It seems to be a pattern with you and is rather unbecoming.

We are all here to share and learn, not to start a controversy.

This thread is about Dermawand, so, please, let's try to keep it on the subject.

Thank you in advance!

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Sat Dec 12, 2009 4:06 am      Reply with quote
eHow is turning out to be a mine of information!

http://www.ehow.com/how_4473269_use-dermawand.html

How to Use the DermaWand

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By eHow Contributing Writer
Article Rating: (1 Ratings) The popularity of skin rejuvenation techniques has created a lot of products people can use at home. Many individuals are tired of paying large in-clinic prices for skin rejuvenation treatments. For those looking to refresh and rejuvenate the skin with out spending a lot of time and money, consider the revolutionary at-home Derma Wand for lasting skin rejuvenation.

.Difficulty: EasyInstructions.Things You'll Need:
•Derma Wand
•Skin moisturizer

Step 1 Decide if Derma Wand is the right skin rejuvenation technique for you. It is important to first learn about the product and what it does. Derma Wand is an at-home, hand-held device that combines thermal energy, oxygenation and stimulation to help restore the natural appearance of facial and body skin. When used as recommended, the Derma Wand continually awakens the skin’s ability to repair damaged skin for a tighter, smoother and younger appearance. Derma Wand essentially imitates hundreds of tiny fingers patting the surface of the skin at 114,000 cycles per second. Simultaneously, it emits purified enriched oxygen right at the skin’s surface, and delivers thermal energy to increase "tissue warming." The result is smoother, younger, healthier looking skin that lasts.

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2Cleanse the area. Before using Derma Wand, whether on the face or any other are of the body, it is important to thoroughly cleanse the area of skin you want to treat. Once you have cleansed, dry the skin before starting treatment.

Step 3 Apply moisturizer. Once the skin is dry, apply moisturizer in the treated area. You can purchase moisturizer especially for the Derma Wand, or you can use your regular moisturizer brand. This is a vital step in the process, you do not want to use the Derma Wand on dry skin.

Step 4 Test the Derma Wand before applying it to the skin to make sure it is working properly. Turn the device on by plugging it in, and set the dial to the lowest setting of 1. As soon as the device is plugged in, it will begin its wave motion. The bulb on the tip is designed to create thermal energy, but it will not glow unless pressed against the skin. Press the Derma Wand against your hand. You will feel a vibration, and the device will make a buzzing sound. If the Derma Wand works properly, you are ready to use it. Keep in mind that, if the Derma Wand hasn’t been used in a while, it may take up to a minute to get started.

Step 5 Apply the Derma Wand. Once your skin is moisturized and the device has been tested, it is time to use the Derma Wand. Pass the Derma Wand over the area you are treating in a circular motion for 2 to 3 minutes. The bulb on the tip of the device should sweep over the skin and should always be touching the skin. While you’ll want to be sure the device is always touching the skin, applying excessive pressure while performing the treatment is not necessary. For areas with especially lax skin or for areas not on the face, some users may want to use the Derma Wand for 4 to 5 minutes for better results.

Step 6 Find your comfort zone. It is recommended that all users start the Derma Wand at the lowest setting. However, as your treatments progress, increasing the settings will allow you to find your personal comfort zone. It is up to each user to find the settings that work best for her skin.


So these instructions say not to use on dry skin. As always, we have conflicting opinions.
But I would say that it's definitely not necessary to use a conductive gel.

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Mon Dec 14, 2009 12:57 am      Reply with quote
Keliu wrote:
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I guess my instructions are geared to such a market as they state not to use on dry skin, however they don't include any for use on acne or breakouts.


DermaWand have obviously changed the instructions because mine had a section on treating blemishes. The info said to treat pimples, the device should be placed over the pimple, then lifted away from the skin slightly - you use this up and down action just for a few times. It definitely works!


This part is in my manuals too. I bought Dermawand last summer from our "domestic" Top Shop and with it I received translated (not original) manuals which says that is recommended not to use Dermawand on dry skin - it says just to put on face anything you want to be absorbed in skin - nothing said about oils - just moisturiser or lotion?.

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Mon Dec 14, 2009 4:21 am      Reply with quote
Actually thats not so true about the UK - as you guys here can often refer to both men and women, and I've been in London for the last 30 years and have heard it so many times. Its even used on tv - last night I was watching the x-factor and the hosts of the show always say you guys to the contestants and they are both male or female.

Photoqueen I don't think any harm or intention to upset you was meant when the original comment was made, so please don't let it upset you. We're a nice bunch and happy to have you and your knowledge here truly!
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You guys - is not globally acceptable, and in the UK - a guy is a man.

I hope we can post together without this happening again.

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Mon Dec 14, 2009 8:18 am      Reply with quote
I don't either, but I've heard it around a lot. In fact we were only in Covent Garden at the weekend in a restaurant with my hubby and friends (both men and women) and the waiter said "Guys if you care to follow me" to all of us. Its not something that I am against, but don't mind it either.

Agree lets get back to conversation topic!
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Mon Jan 04, 2010 12:06 am      Reply with quote
Well, I took the plunge and got the HSN Dermawand. I'll keep you guys updated as to whether it works on my blemishes or not.

If it doesn't, I just might have to find out the name of the machine the aesthetician used. Only thing is it probably costs five grand. Shock

Thanks for all of your help, DM and others!
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Mon Jan 04, 2010 4:25 pm      Reply with quote
I just wanted to weigh in with my experience.

I actually bought the dermawand as a result of the reviews on EDS, and I bought it fairly recently. In November, I believe.

I have combo, "maturing" skin, and I mainly bought it because in the past couple of years, my pores have been larger than I like in the T-zone area. Also, I used to get cystic acne, but I have not had any problems for quite a while, even before purchasing the dermawand. However, I still deal with hormonal acne.

The dermawand has helped my pores immensely. It has made the skin pretty smooth. It has really helped (the pore issue) more than anything else, as far as I can tell. Also, I haven't really been consistent with it, but my pores have stayed small.

There seems to be some controversy (especially on this thread! Wink) on how to use it. The dvd that came with it says to use it first on dry skin. The booklet that came with it says to apply moisturiser before you use it. I think there is another booklet that explains how to use the gel and creams, but I can't locate it at the moment. Further, I have seen yet another set of directions that says to shrink pores, use it on bare skin, then apply your potion and do your regular session. I use the dermawand on the pores without moisture. It seems that the point of the gel or moisturiser is (a) glide and (b)avoiding overexfoliation. The dermawand will kind of dry your skin if you don't use a moisturiser. I think it really depends on your preference and how sensitive your skin is. Of course, you can also use it to push in your treatment (minus A and C serum).

So, along with the above poster, I agree it is versatile. Also, I like its portability. It seems that nowadays you can get a hf machine for the same price as a dermawand (mine was $55 delivered), but you have consider how often you are on the road, the size of the machine, and whether you are a klutz and will break the glass wands! The violet ray still seems to be on the pricier side, although the draw of it, I guess, is that it is supposed to be more on the frequency of your body, if I am not mistaken. There seems to be some controversy on that point, you can take it with a grain of salt.

Phew! All that to say, I was skeptical, but I can truly recommend the dermawand!
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Tue Jan 05, 2010 6:52 pm      Reply with quote
You are so welcome!

Yea...I feel like I've finally actually contributed to this forum, after having gleaned so much information about so many new things from everyone else! Laughing
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Thu Jan 28, 2010 7:49 pm      Reply with quote
Kassy_A wrote:
You're doing this with your oil soluble C serum Keliu, correct? Just want to verify that so "skinner" doesn't use it with a water based L-Ascorbic Acid serum... (The L-AA would be oxidized by the ozone/oxygen from the DermaWand.)

Keeping in mind that the whole point of using the DW is to bring *oxygen* to the skin, and that oxygen is also the enemy of L-AA.


I apply C Serum, wait 30 mins then apply other serums. Then apply Oil Soluble C serum and use Dermawand.

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Fri Jan 29, 2010 11:28 am      Reply with quote
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I believe the oxidation potential of the C when used with the DW is pure speculation at this point. I mean a topical vitamin C serum will stay in the skin and give it's benefits for around 72 hours. So the oxidation theory, if true, would most likely effect a serum applied days ago.


You can do a little test yourself... Apply a water based L-AA serum, and then use your DW before it has fully penetrated. After a few days of this routine have a look in a magnifying mirror, and you will see lots of little blackheads.. They are the result of vitamin C which has oxidized on your skin.

I believe that blackheads will always be the result of using an oxidized C serum. And that goes for DIY or the most expensive product money can buy.

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Thu Feb 11, 2010 4:10 pm      Reply with quote
THANKS SO MUCH KELIU!!! That pimple is GONE! I'm thrilled!!!!!
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Thu Feb 11, 2010 7:14 pm      Reply with quote
MoxieMama wrote:
In my instructions it says not to use it after applying Retin A....is that still accurate? Does anyone know why that is? If it allows the Retin A to go deeper...great. If it is for another reason altogether like the skin is too sensitive immediately after applying Retin A and I may burn myself than I don't want to take any chances.


That is correct - you're not supposed to use high frequency treatments with AHAs or BHAs so that would also apply to Retin-A as well. I think the reason is that it would be just too drying on the skin. However, I use my HF device in the morning and apply my Retin-A at night and don't have any issues. I wouldn't recommend doing a treatment over the Retin-A though.

Murray28 - I'm glad you managed to fix up your pimple so quickly. I'm totally convinced that high frequency treatments kill bacteria and viruses.

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Wed Jun 09, 2010 8:34 pm      Reply with quote
havana8 wrote:
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This is a "please" start new threads on those using a gadget that is similar to the DermaWand. I am a bit confused trying to seperate all the different gadgets. Let us know where you purchased it, costs, etc.

The Professional High Frequency Devices discussion has been moved to its own thread. If you wish to follow that discussion, you may find it here: http://www.essentialdayspa.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=38630 .


Wow Hanana8, that must have taken you hours and hours. Thank you sooooooooooooo much for doing this. Bj

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Fri Mar 25, 2016 11:35 am      Reply with quote
I use the Lift Wand and think it is far superior compare to my friends. There is more variety of attachments for specific areas of the skin. It is also much cheaper, I got mines through Amazon.
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