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Thu Jun 12, 2008 12:30 pm  |
| Septembergirl wrote: |
| wancy_2000 wrote: |
| I wanna try C E serum, but can I use with my B5 gel? |
Yes, the two are made for each other, so to speak. Apply the vitamin C serum, wait for 15 minutes, then apply the vitamin B5 gel.  |
The directions say to apply a thin layer to the entire face, neck, and chest, avoiding eye area. Allow 3-5 minutes before applying additional products. |
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havana8
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Tue Jul 08, 2008 12:31 pm |
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| phloretin isn't like a new miracle though, green tea (EGCG) has been shown to do basically the same thing. so has bee venom. |
 that's funny, Edenfield, but similar to what is said here:
Skinceuticals Phloretin CF is a new antioxidant combination (10% Ascorbic Acid + 0.5% Ferulic Acid + 2% Phloretin) invented by Drs. Sheldon R. Pinnell, Jan Zielinski and Isabelle Hansenne and marketed by L'Oreal through Skinceuticals as:
• capable of penetrating skin and
• providing photoprotection
for the purposes of both preventing and treating damage which results in permanent losses in:
• firmness and
• overall skin quality (texture, tone and colouring).
Distinct from Skinceuticals C E Ferulic, Phloretin CF contains less firming antioxidant Vitamin C and no antioxidant Vitamin E (as alpha tocopherol), however includes phloretin — an antioxidant bioflavonoid and hormone — possessing anti-inflammatory, antibacterial, anti-fungal, anti-glycogen and sebum-regulating properties.
Although the combination of active ingredients in Skinceuticals Phloretin CF is new, third-party claims that phloretin is newly identified or immediately superior are as accurate and useful as those pumped out by the mass media and beauty therapy when Vitamin C first "emerged" a decade ago.
The study and use of both pre-date most of our birth dates, if not our fashions.
If you've been over-stimulated by advertising and daft skin clinic hype before, recall that jumping on seasonal ingredient bandwagons is a great way to secure skin care failure before you embark on changing your skin care once again.
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In recent times, bioflavonoids have been unavailable in Skinceuticals Vitamin C Serums (excepting C+AHA) but always present in those produced by IS Clinical, Jan Marini and Cellex-C among others.
Bioflavonoids were formerly regarded as vitamins in French skin care, where they are still sometimes referenced as "Vitamin P", "PP" or "citrin", and are primarily derived from citrus fruits.
Skinceuticals have named their bioflavonoid specifically (phloretin), while IS Clinical, Cellex-C and Jan Marini do not publicly disclose theirs, and may in fact use combinations of bioflavonoids.
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The concentration of Vitamin C available in Skinceuticals Phloretin CF is only 10% L-Ascorbic Acid, which is minimally firming when compared with 15%, 17.5% and 20% formulations, although the reduced concentration may be beneficial for those prone to acne and sensitivity, albeit only outside of ideal complementing skin care factors.
The propensity for Vitamin C (as ascorbic acid) to stimulate acne appeared to be reduced with the addition of ferulic acid to the original higher concentration vitamin C serums (Serum 15, Serum 20).
The minimized Vitamin C concentration in Skinceuticals Phloretin CF combined with ferulic acid and phloretin, known to be effective against acne, should further reduce the likelihood of acne in comparison with Skinceuticals Serum 10 and 10 AOX+, 15 and 15 AOX+, 20 and 20 AOX+, C E Ferulic, IS Clinical and Cellex-C Vitamin C Serums.
Skinceuticals Phloretin CF may provide more benefit than Skinceuticals C E Ferulic, particularly if you have predominantly oily skin and hyperpigmentation, however individual assessment and follow-up are essential in determining suitability.
Inappropriate use may produce lipid-dry skin.
http://www.treatment-skincare.com/Skinceuticals/Phloretin-CF.html |
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Thu Jul 31, 2008 10:28 am |
| Thought I would report on my trial of using the Phloretin underneath the C, E, Ferulic. I noticed that the Phloretin "dries" very quickly, within 1 minute my skin felt like it had nothing on. However, laying the C, E, Ferulic on top of this, my face was constantly sticky feeling. I did not see any difference in my skin applying the Phloretin and then the C, E, Ferulic; no diminishing of freckles. Also, the Phloretin is most definitely for oily skin. I tried using it by itself, and I found it quite drying. I much prefer the C, E, Ferulic over the Phloretin. |
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