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Sun Oct 11, 2015 2:10 pm  |
To the OP.. You lost fat in your face from the brutal bike ride - plain and simple. I bet you lost fat in other parts of your body as well. Just because you gained the weight back does not mean that any of it would go back to your face. I lost a lot of weight in a short amount of time and when I regained it sadly none went to my face. No amount of facial exercises is going to replace the fat.
Age jumps really  Is Theresa Mary the only one who makes any sense on this thread? |
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Thu Jan 07, 2016 8:23 pm |
I haven’t had a chance to look into this article further or the study cited (if someone does, please share your findings!) but I thought this was another interesting read:
This Is the Age When You Start to Visibly Look Older
A new skin study tells all—including the secret of “exceptional agers.”
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”We used to think everything was great until about age 35, when all the skin processes started to slow down at once,” says Olay principal scientist Dr. Frauke Neuser. “But that’s not what we found. In reality, different cell processes change at each decade, until you start seeing the cumulative effects all together.
After analyzing the genes of more than 200 women of different ethnicities over the course of two years, the study was able to pinpoint five different cell processes that slow or decline at five different landmark ages. |
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| What you’re probably still wondering is when exactly these internal changes become visible. Experts say that depends on your race and, possibly, your lifestyle. For Caucasian women, it’s typically around the late 30s. “This is when fine lines on the forehead and around the eyes, less-elastic skin, and brown spots and broken capillaries from accumulated sun damage crop up,” says Yagoda. If you’re a woman of color, the tipping point is more likely in your 40s. “African-American women aged, on average, 10 years more slowly than Caucasians in our study, which could be seen not only in skin appearance, but also in underlying gene expression,” says Kimball. It’s thought that darker skin provides more UV protection, but data suggest that can’t be the only reason for the difference; researchers believe more antioxidant protection and higher skin bioenergy levels may also be at play. (So far, only Caucasian and African-American women have been analyzed in the study; data on Asians and Hispanics should be finished by January 2016.) |
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| But there's good news, according to researchers at McMaster University in Hamilton, Ontario: Aerobic exercise (like jogging or cycling) twice a week has the ability to transform the protein structure of skin in those 65 and older so it more closely resembles the skin of those 20 to 40. |
Read the whole article here: http://www.marieclaire.com/beauty/news/a16636/the-age-when-aging-begins/ |
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Sat Jan 09, 2016 12:59 pm |
Thanks for this. I haven't been able to locate the actual study, but this summary is interesting. They discuss using "genetic studies" to measure the slowing of certain cell processes during aging, and they state:
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| The first process to decline is natural antioxidant production, and that happens in your 20s. "We always thought that you just need to moisturize and use sunscreen in your 20s, but this new data shows that skin is already susceptible to oxidative stressors and damage," says Neuser. Accordingly, the best time to start using products with antioxidants such as stabilized vitamin C, vitamin E, green tea extract, and fruit acids is right around college graduation. |
Interestingly, in most people, the gradual, accumulated damage caused by lowered antioxidant capacity doesn't show for YEARS:
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| What you're probably still wondering is when exactly these internal changes become visible. Experts say that depends on your race and, possibly, your lifestyle. For Caucasian women, it's typically around the late 30s. "This is when fine lines on the forehead and around the eyes, less-elastic skin, and brown spots and broken capillaries from accumulated sun damage crop up," says Yagoda. |
So here they are recommending beginning to use topical antioxidants like vitamin C serum something like 15 YEARS before most people will really notice the effects of having a chronic antioxidant deficiency.
I personally believe that topical vitamin C is effective even much earlier than "college age," because the genetic deficiency related to vitamin C is not a result of a "slowing" in gene activity as we age; in the case of vitamin C, the related gene activity is entirely non-existent from the day we are born. Either way though, this article might help some people understand more clearly what the purpose and real proven effects of topical vitamin C are. As they said,
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| "A 60-year-old who has never done anything and buys a $200 antiaging cream just isn't going to see the same results as someone who has been taking care of her skin throughout earlier aging stages," says New York cosmetic dermatologist Dr. Paul Jarrod Frank. |
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Wed Jan 13, 2016 4:50 pm |
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| It's hard to get yourself to use something consistently when you don't see immediate results. |
That is definitely true.
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| Is it normal not to see any effects? |
You bet. How can you see immediate effects of “anti-aging?” Whether they use vitamin C serum or not, most people would be hard-pressed to describe any significant difference in the appearance of their skin over a period of say, six months, yet none would suggest that their skin isn’t six months older. The primary benefit of topical vitamin C is protective rather than therapeutic, so expecting to see some kinds of immediate, visual indications of its effectiveness is somewhat like expecting your car to look many years newer six months after applying a protective coating to the paint. The point is to prevent the paint from aging and looking older. Fact is, what you’re really looking for in the long run, whether it’s your car or your skin we’re talking about, is NO change versus a change for the worse.
I’m not saying that some people don’t report improvements in the appearance of their skin, and there are certainly plenty of scientific studies to support physiological mechanisms by which topical vitamin C might provide a “brightening” of the skin, or a “lessening” of the darkness of some types of pigmented areas, or a “minimizing” of the appearance of fine lines. The hydrating effects on the stratum corneum are well documented, so some people see and feel a general “smoothing” which is very immediate. But these effects have been promoted so strongly that many people conclude that if you don’t experience them, then vitamin C “isn’t working.” Quite to the contrary, if the product you’re using actually increases the vitamin C levels deeper in the living tissues of the epidermis and dermis, then it is very likely helping neutralize the free radicals caused by oxygen metabolism and UV radiation. And therefore is protecting the tissues from the accumulation of damage that is believed to be the source of 90% of what we perceive as “aging” of the skin (and that many scientists believe are a major source of the DNA damage that ultimately results in skin cancers). This ability to fight these free radicals is what is meant by the term “anti-oxidant,” because the damage these free radicals cause is due to the fact that they are powerful oxidants. It’s the long-term protective effects that are the real point and purpose of using topical vitamin C, and these effects are not something that you will necessarily perceive visually.
So this poses a real dilemma in selecting a product to use, doesn’t it? Is there not any visual indication that might give you a clue as to whether the particular serum you are using is really effective? Well, there is one. Almost everyone who regularly uses an effective topical vitamin C will experience the photoprotective effect of vitamin C. In other words, your skin will be much less prone to sunburn. This is due to the anti-oxidant activity that reduces the skin damage that results in the redness and inflammation that we call sunburn (vitamin C doesn’t absorb UV radiation except in a very narrow band, so it doesn’t protect by a sunscreen effect). Now, whether or not you notice this photoprotection will, of course, depend on a lot of things, such as whether you always avoid the sun anyway (either by shade or sunblock). And this isn’t a perfect indication that the product is actually enhancing skin vitamin C levels either…what if the product contains some type of sunscreen or sunblocker anyway? Did you know that ferulic acid, for example, is a broad-spectrum UV light absorber? Vitamin E also absorbs a significantly broad spectrum of UV light, and so provides at least a minimal sunscreen effect. How can you know if the product you’re using really enhances the vitamin C levels in your skin cells, or if its photoprotective effects are simply due to the sunscreen effects of other ingredients?
There is only one bit of advice I can give here. The known, proven antioxidant, photoprotective, collagen-producing effects of vitamin C are due to the enhanced amount of the NATURAL forms of vitamin C in the skin. There are only two forms of natural vitamin C, and they are called l-ascorbic acid and l-dehydroascorbic acid. Many “vitamin C” skin serums contain chemical forms of vitamin C that are not natural, including a whole host of “stabilized” derivatives. Products containing these derivatives are more stable, so they have a longer shelf-life (they don’t turn yellow as fast). This is a great benefit to the manufacturer/distributor, since they don’t have to absorb the cost of destroying as much old, unsold inventory. (As an aside, have you ever wondered about those “great deals” on the expensive name-brand serums that you see on e-Bay occasionally? Ever wonder if someone, somehow gets there hands on some old, withdrawn inventory that was supposed to have been destroyed?) Anyway, back to the point, although these stable derivatives are of great benefit to the manufacturer, the question I think you should ask yourself is whether these derivatives are any great benefit to YOU. The reason they are more stable is because the active, electron-donating sites on the vitamin C molecule are blocked by chemically bonding another chemical to these sites (that is what is meant by “derivatization”). That other chemical must be removed from the molecule in order to release the normal, active, natural vitamin C molecule that a cell can utilize. If you do your homework, you will find that there is always some study that “proves” that there is some enzyme in your skin capable of cleaving the derivative to release natural vitamin C. If you have sufficient background in chemistry and biology to truly understand these studies, you will find that they seldom answer the question as to just how efficient these enzymatic processes are; in other words, just how many natural vitamin C molecules can your skin cells actually get from 100 molecules of the derivative? Furthermore, (still requiring some chemistry background), you will understand that these derivatives, since they have additional chemicals attached to the vitamin C molecule, have a larger molecular weight than natural vitamin C. What that means is that a product with say, 5% of a derivative has less vitamin C molecules than a product containing 5% natural vitamin C. An extreme case? A popular vitamin C derivative called TETRA is 7 times heavier than ascorbic acid. A product containing 7% TETRA has only as many vitamin C molecules, drop-for-drop, as a product containing 1% l-ascorbic acid.
So my advice? Whether you make your own DIY serum, or purchase it, always use natural vitamin C. |
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