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Mon Oct 31, 2011 3:57 pm |
I'm trying to streamline (and save money) because i take too many
multivitamin, multimineral, fish oil, hyaluronic acid, glisodin, selenium, vitamin c, rutin, coQ 10, zeaxanthin, astaxanthin, lycopene, pantethine, kelp, thyroid supplement, tocotrienol, vit D, milk thistle.
i'm trying to eat alot more veggies/fruits and really want to get my nutrition from food.
some of the supplements are preventative, but alot are because i generally have lower energy/focus than i want and definitely need lose fat/weight.
also, i'm trying to stay younger looking, but wish my skin was firmer and clearer/less acne.
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Mon Oct 31, 2011 5:14 pm |
I work in lifestyle healthcare, which includes nutrition consultations.
You should be able to purchase a simple complete multi-vitamin/ mineral, so you will not require individual vitamin C, D, tocotrienols, selenium or iodine (kelp, thyroid). Although vitamins and mineral are important more is not better: several are toxic in higher doses, have negative withdrawal effects, or have negative effects when not taken in the correct ratios. Fish body oils are health stars, so you might increase the dose depending how much EPA & DHA you are taking. Is the hyaluronic acid low molecular weight? The remainder are superfluous unless you have an undisclosed health condition?
For energy/ focus/ skin health/ weight management no supplement replaces a healthy lifestyle. Work on regular sleep patterns, little alcohol/ caffeine/ no smoking, regular physical activity (minimum 10,000 steps a day), replace sugar and white or refined carbs with low glycaemic index wholefoods, nine portions of fruit and veg a day, plenty of essential fatty acids. These will all help reduce stress and inflammation, improve organ function including the skin, thyroid and liver.
One supplement you might consider adding (in place of all the phytonutrients and antioxidants) is green tea - either as dried extract or as a drink. Research suggests the polyphenols can raise the metabolism, have anti-ageing properties, improve exercise performance and even boost mental concentration which ticks a lot of boxes for you. This is absolutely not necessary, but I know it can be tough to accept 'cold turkey' when you are accustomed to relying on supplements. |
_________________ Sensitivity, forehead pigmentation & elevens, nose & chin clogged pores. Topicals: Aloe vera, squalane, lactic acid, Myfawnie KinNiaNag HG: Weleda calendula, Lanolips, Guinot masque essentiel, Flexitol Naturals, Careprost. Gadgets: Vaughter dermarollers, Lightstim. |
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Wed Nov 02, 2011 3:06 pm |
If you are over 40, I think you should continue with CoQ10 to spark energy. But have you tried ubiquinol. 50 mg of ubiquinol is equivalent to 300 mg of CoQ10. All ubiquinol is made by Kaneka..they hold the patent. So pick an inexpensive brand, like Healthy Origins.
I am also a big fan of hyaluronic acid for skin firmness and eye health. Google Pharmacist Suzy Cohen+hyaluronic acid and see all the good things she says about joint health, skin beauty, and eye sight. But get the all natural ha, not the synthetic (sodium hyaluronate). I take Neocell. |
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Wed Nov 02, 2011 3:40 pm |
I go through phases of taking all sorts of suplements... I've finally narrowed it down to a good multi-mineral-vitamin one, it is the Supradyn Q10+ I'm taking at the moment, and what I reintroduced about three months ago was Cod Liver Oil capsules... it is since I've started with these that I've noticed a better skin -they are also recommended for when trying to lose weight. I had them recommended many many years ago by a dermatologist to help with my tendency to eczema, she actually recommended fish oil and borage oil capsules to "nourish" the skin.
I sometimes toss in the green, white or red tea but as infusion, not as an extra suplement.
The MSM I also take at intermitent intervals, which means... when I remember! |
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Wed Nov 02, 2011 4:31 pm |
UDO's oil and ZYFLAMEND |
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Wed Nov 02, 2011 6:39 pm |
dickymoe wrote: |
UDO's oil and ZYFLAMEND |
Explain please, if possible. |
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Wed Nov 02, 2011 8:36 pm |
How much are your supplements costing you per day? Honestly, in terms of the most bang for the buck, I would recommend eating a large green smoothie for breakfast--they are amazing! (like 400 Cal + 0.25-0.5 lbs of greens)--and cutting down on the number of supplements you take. Also water and balancing your omega-3 (more) and omega-6 (less) fats are also important. Supplements can't make up for the oxidative damage from most people's diets. |
_________________ 34 y.o. FlexEffect and massage. Love experimenting with DIY and botanical skin care products. Appreciate both hard science and natural approaches. Eat green smoothies + lots of raw fruit and veggies. |
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Thu Nov 03, 2011 3:22 am |
I eat predominantly fresh and steamed green vegetables with fish, and eggs. Tiny bit of brown rice and various nuts. I also take a green powder supplement (a blend of wheat grass, spirulina and chlorella) as well dried acai berry and fish oil capsules. I figure that ticks the multivitamin minerals, antioxidants and EFAs for me in conjunction with my usual diet.
I'm not a big fan of synthetic vitamins for me personally, I like the green powders and I've experienced an improvement in stamina, mental alertness and overall wellbeing. I like that they are complete foods in themselves so it's hard to overdose or any one vitamin or mineral
taking them. I'm aos too lazy to research individual vitamins and minerals to try and work out which ones I need. My supplements cost me $60 per month which is think is very reasonable when we are talking about food and health. |
_________________ 40, fine porcelain skin, tendency to pigmentation no other issues. Rosehip oil is the cornerstone of my skin care. |
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Thu Nov 03, 2011 6:40 am |
ZYFLAMEND is a blend of herbs and spices good for inflammation joints etc
2 softgels = Rosemary (leaf) 100 mg supercritical extract and 50 mg hydroethanolic extract (min. 34.5 mg total phenolic antioxidants [TPA]) 150 mg �
Turmeric (rhizome) 10 mg supercritical extract (min. 4.5 mg turmerones) and 100 mg hydroethanolic extract (min. 7 mg curcuminoids) 110 mg �
Ginger (rhizome) 54 mg supercritical extract (min. 16.2 mg pungent compounds; min. 4.3 mg zingiberene) and 46 mg hydroethanolic extract (min. 1.4 mg pungent compounds) 100 mg �
Holy Basil (leaf) hydroethanolic extract (min. 2 mg ursolic acid) 100 mg �
Green Tea (leaf) extract (min. 45 mg polyphenols) 100 mg �
Hu Zhang (Polygonum cuspidatum) (root and rhizome) hydroethanolic extract (min. 6.4 mg resveratrol) 80 mg �
Chinese Goldthread (root) hydroethanolic extract (min. 2.4 mg berberine) 40 mg �
Barberry (root) hydroethanolic extract (min. 2.4 mg berberine) 40 mg �
Oregano (leaf) supercritical extract (min. 1.6 mg TPA) 40 mg �
Baikal Skullcap (Scutellaria baicalensis) (root) hydroethanolic extract (min. 3.4 mg baicalein complex including baicalein and baicalin; and min. 0.08 mg wogonin) 20 mg |
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Thu Nov 03, 2011 6:57 am |
UDO's oil comes in a brown bottle and is refrigerated. It is a vegan 3 6 9 blend. I am no longer a vegan but still take 1 tbls daily
Flax Oil*, Sunflower Oil*, Sesame Oil*, Coconut Oil*, Evening Primrose Oil*, Rice Bran Oil*, Soy Lecithin*, Oat Germ and Bran Oil*, Mixed Tocopherols (NON-GMO).
(*Organic)
Also eating steel cut oats that have been soaked and slow cooked in a crock pot are very good for skin, hair, nails and your health. The natuaral silicon is so good for you. Add some organic coconut oil, pinch of brown sugar,cranberries, walnuts, pumpkin seeds and a banana and you are good. I cook a batch every week and it keeps in the fridge or you can freeze portions.
At one point I took a skin care vitamin that had msm included in it. It made my skin smell weird.
I agree with the other comment about taking synthetic vitamins you are better off eating better, and fish oil that has been sitting in a capsuale seems gross |
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Thu Nov 03, 2011 8:14 am |
Evening Primrose Oil |
_________________ mask |
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Thu Nov 03, 2011 10:17 am |
cm5597 wrote: |
How much are your supplements costing you per day? Honestly, in terms of the most bang for the buck, I would recommend eating a large green smoothie for breakfast--they are amazing! (like 400 Cal + 0.25-0.5 lbs of greens)--and cutting down on the number of supplements you take. Also water and balancing your omega-3 (more) and omega-6 (less) fats are also important. Supplements can't make up for the oxidative damage from most people's diets. |
my supplements cost alot. I just started green smoothies and am trying to cut down on supplements, but wanted to get a sense of what people think are most important. |
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Thu Nov 03, 2011 1:38 pm |
These are great recommendations Firefox7275. Lifestyle behaviors (not smoking is #1), sleep, physical activity and nutritional concerns are key. Jack Lalane (RIP) said Exercise is King
Nutrition is Queen
After years of various supplements I've come to the conclusion that "green smoothies" and green drinks - favorite being Vitamineral Green... are the ticket.
I also take hyaluronic acid because it plumps skin tissues and take a vitamin for hair, skin, nails.
That's it these days.
Firefox7275 wrote: |
For energy/ focus/ skin health/ weight management no supplement replaces a healthy lifestyle. Work on regular sleep patterns, little alcohol/ caffeine/ no smoking, regular physical activity (minimum 10,000 steps a day), replace sugar and white or refined carbs with low glycaemic index wholefoods, nine portions [b]of fruit and veg a day, plenty of essential fatty acids. These will all help reduce stress and inflammation, improve organ function including the skin, thyroid and liver.[/b] |
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_________________ Enjoying dermalogica with my ASG and Pico toner ** Disclosure: I was a participant without remuneration in promotional videos for Ageless Secret Gold and the Neurotris Pico Emmy event. |
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Thu Nov 03, 2011 1:41 pm |
Oops - I also take Omega 3's and Vitamin D. |
_________________ Enjoying dermalogica with my ASG and Pico toner ** Disclosure: I was a participant without remuneration in promotional videos for Ageless Secret Gold and the Neurotris Pico Emmy event. |
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Thu Nov 03, 2011 9:54 pm |
Have you gotten a blood test? I recommend basing your decision on what supplements you actually need to take, rather than guessing. For example, I'm a supplement minimalist, so I only take vitamin B12 (I'm vegan, so need it), vitamin D (when I don't get enough sun; I use Dr. Holick's sun tables to determine this), and zinc (because my blood tests show that I'm a bit too low). Everything else is great and I get it from food, so I don't supplement and focus instead on eating high-quality fruits and veggies. Just my personal philosophy |
_________________ 34 y.o. FlexEffect and massage. Love experimenting with DIY and botanical skin care products. Appreciate both hard science and natural approaches. Eat green smoothies + lots of raw fruit and veggies. |
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Sat Nov 12, 2011 1:49 pm |
anyone try glisodin? it does contain wheat (gliadin), but sounds very promising to me. |
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Mon Nov 21, 2011 4:10 am |
Fish oil capsules and Vitamin E |
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Mon Nov 21, 2011 4:56 am |
I cant live without Murad youth builder and fish oil. Some days I take only three of the recommended four youth builder and take a multivitamin instead.
I believe that the youth builder really has plumped up my skin, esp. the fine lines under my eyes. I have taken them for two years and the lines have diminished 50 % since them. |
_________________ My blog on travel tips www.theconstanttraveller.com |
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Mon Nov 21, 2011 3:42 pm |
I'm taking monthly B12 shots, and a multivitamin when I remember. I'm trying to retool my diet right now.
I saw this collagen supplement at the health food store. Is it worth purchasing? I think it was some $22 for about an ounce. |
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Tue Nov 22, 2011 3:26 am |
HI Firefox - Do you mind sharing what Hyaluronic Acid supplement do you take?
Firefox7275 wrote: |
I work in lifestyle healthcare, which includes nutrition consultations.
You should be able to purchase a simple complete multi-vitamin/ mineral, so you will not require individual vitamin C, D, tocotrienols, selenium or iodine (kelp, thyroid). Although vitamins and mineral are important more is not better: several are toxic in higher doses, have negative withdrawal effects, or have negative effects when not taken in the correct ratios. Fish body oils are health stars, so you might increase the dose depending how much EPA & DHA you are taking. Is the hyaluronic acid low molecular weight? The remainder are superfluous unless you have an undisclosed health condition?
For energy/ focus/ skin health/ weight management no supplement replaces a healthy lifestyle. Work on regular sleep patterns, little alcohol/ caffeine/ no smoking, regular physical activity (minimum 10,000 steps a day), replace sugar and white or refined carbs with low glycaemic index wholefoods, nine portions of fruit and veg a day, plenty of essential fatty acids. These will all help reduce stress and inflammation, improve organ function including the skin, thyroid and liver.
One supplement you might consider adding (in place of all the phytonutrients and antioxidants) is green tea - either as dried extract or as a drink. Research suggests the polyphenols can raise the metabolism, have anti-ageing properties, improve exercise performance and even boost mental concentration which ticks a lot of boxes for you. This is absolutely not necessary, but I know it can be tough to accept 'cold turkey' when you are accustomed to relying on supplements. |
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_________________ Enjoying dermalogica with my ASG and Pico toner ** Disclosure: I was a participant without remuneration in promotional videos for Ageless Secret Gold and the Neurotris Pico Emmy event. |
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Tue Nov 22, 2011 8:32 am |
firefox, is it better to take green tea or egcg or both? thanks. |
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Sat Nov 26, 2011 6:46 pm |
I've taken GliSODin in the past, and quite honestly, I really didn't see a difference after several months. What *has* worked for me, however, has been Vitamin K2-MK4 -- I take it in drops as opposed to capsules (Thorne brand). The skin on my hands responded very quickly -- I could tell because my palms were much softer within a few days.
I also take Coq10, lutein and hyaluronic acid powder, all from PureBulk. I mix the Coq10 and hyaluronic according to the directions on their website. I buy other things (including Pearl Powder & resveratrol) in bulk also and cap some of the stuff myself. Definitely notice a difference when I don't take them, too.
flfl, I have the same concerns as you and would like to streamline my supplement regime. There are some things that I just can't/don't want to do without, and I'm always looking for better deals or ways to incorporate it into my diet if at all possible. |
_________________ 49 & holding, natural redhead, no greys or lines, fair & freckled; green smoothies & supplements; CPs & drybrushing for stretchmarks, MAP, Taz, and having fun with homemade goodies. |
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Sat Nov 26, 2011 6:57 pm |
flfl wrote: |
is it better to take green tea or egcg or both? thanks. |
'sup to you. I suppose if I were trying to streamline my regimen, I'd ditch the pills and substitute tea for coffee (if you do that, or something else). You can take an egcg supplement that will give you 100mg/cap, or you can drink a few cups of tea a day. I'd rather drink the tea, and brew two pots which I drink throughout the course of the day. If I were going to take (yet another) pill, it would be for the reservatrol, coQ10 or something else I can't get in dosage I'd like from my diet. |
_________________ 49 & holding, natural redhead, no greys or lines, fair & freckled; green smoothies & supplements; CPs & drybrushing for stretchmarks, MAP, Taz, and having fun with homemade goodies. |
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Wed Nov 30, 2011 7:04 am |
flfl wrote: |
firefox, is it better to take green tea or egcg or both? thanks. |
Epigallocatecin gallate is the main antioxidant in green tea extract so you do not need to supplement both. I take green tea as it contains other active phytonutrients which may work synergistically with EGCG. |
_________________ Sensitivity, forehead pigmentation & elevens, nose & chin clogged pores. Topicals: Aloe vera, squalane, lactic acid, Myfawnie KinNiaNag HG: Weleda calendula, Lanolips, Guinot masque essentiel, Flexitol Naturals, Careprost. Gadgets: Vaughter dermarollers, Lightstim. |
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Wed Nov 30, 2011 8:28 am |
So I know that the body produces hyaluronic acid, so would taking a supplement result in the body producing less of it by itself?
Or is it more recommended for 40+ people?
I'm 21 - is there anything I should be taking? Currently, I'm taking a Multi Maxx
a greens+ supplement
and a CLA with a EGCG. |
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