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Sun Jan 24, 2010 8:26 pm  |
| sister sweets wrote: |
JJ and others - I'm in the process of buying these products! I'm not a person who's done well with eye creams either so I'm hoping this path will be better.
I've used the (famous on another thread  ) Tuck with a product called "No lines" bought from Nanci (NCN). I mix them and get a very flat, smooth undereye area. I also lay on the ground while they dry - a la Kassy!
However I regard these types of products as distinctly separate products/goals from treatment products such as MD Forte and the TNS. The Tuck and No Lines for me help tighten and smooth as I don't have eye bags but they don't replace a bonafide treatment.
The roller I've used three times. Will report in depth about this on the roller thread. |
Sis, these are definitely different types of products, but what a fabulous idea to lay on the ground while your Tuck and No Lines mixture dries! Let gravity take your eyes back in time while the stuff is drying. Wow, that Kassy is one smart cookie, isn't she? That's a great tip.
Yes, you're right. The MDF and TNS are two really strong products, and they each do basically the same thing, but approach that goal of smoothing the undereye area in two very different ways so that all bases are covered. I think you'll be pleased. OK, brave one, off to check the roller thread. ~ JJ  |
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Sun Jan 24, 2010 9:00 pm |
| has wrote: |
I was thinking to use c 20% then clear then exfoderm then the MD in the morning.
At night clear then blender with 0.1% retinaA then the TNS. will that work? or do I need to use the MD at night? |
Has, I'm sorry - I just saw this post! Do you want to use the retin-a/blender under your eyes every night or every other night? If every other night, I would use it first, then apply MD Forte. And on the off nights, use the TNS.
I have only used the TNS on clean skin with nothing underneath, but Riley says that you can use it on top of retin-a, I believe, after waiting 30-45 minutes. As far as morning use, I don't use either product during the day, but if I did, it would be the TNS. In the mornings I personally use a C serum, alpha lipoic acid, and moisturizing eye cream and sometimes use peptides. Please post again if I have only made you more confused! ~ JJ |
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Sun Jan 24, 2010 10:19 pm |
| jj - I know you use a moisturizing eye cream on top of many of the other products. Just want to clarify these - hemp seed oil is one, and the Perlier black rice and then the neutrogena product are some that you use. Are these interchangable as you see it? I have a few eye cream products around and I figure if it's just to hold the other stuff in (mostly) then they will probably be acceptable. In other words do you think any of the outside eye care products are synergistic with the other choices - that you can tell? (I know it's hard to know for sure) |
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Sun Jan 24, 2010 10:29 pm |
| sister sweets wrote: |
| jj - I know you use a moisturizing eye cream on top of many of the other products. Just want to clarify these - hemp seed oil is one, and the Perlier black rice and then the neutrogena product are some that you use. Are these interchangable as you see it? I have a few eye cream products around and I figure if it's just to hold the other stuff in (mostly) then they will probably be acceptable. In other words do you think any of the outside eye care products are synergistic with the other choices - that you can tell? (I know it's hard to know for sure) |
Sis, the hemp I used over the MD Forte a few times when I was still prone to redness and flaking; the Perlier is very silky and contains peptides, and the Neutrogena is a lifting eye cream that is not as silky or moisturizing. Most of the time now, I use the Perlier because of the moisture factor. I like the Perlier over the TNS because both contain peptides. The MD Forte I like with all three - the hemp, the Perlier and the Neutrogena. In the mornings, I am using up other eye serums and creams in lieu of tossing them. HTH! ~ JJ |
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Sun Jan 24, 2010 10:32 pm |
Yes, this helps. I'm probably going to try the Perlier - thought it sounded nice on it's own so hey It's great to try over something!
thanks jj |
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Mon Jan 25, 2010 7:06 am |
| snowqueen67 wrote: |
| MaryClaire wrote: |
~JJ~ I did it myself  ...it's hard enough for me to justify the products and tools...I just have to cut costs somewhere and a lot of times I feel more comfortable doing it myself (I test a very small area first and I researched peels for a year)...I did a 25% over my entire face and neck except for the undereye area...I skipped that because I was too inexperienced at the time...the 25% was the scariest peel I ever did...my daughter applied it (she's an RN) but she told me she didn't know if she could do it again and see me in so much pain...I was sticking my head in the freezer...I don't think I'll need that strong a one again but if I did, I would take a pain killer firsts...I had a very good result and always wanted to do the undereye area...there were a couple of ladies on the MakeMeHeal board that gave me the confidence to do the eye area just like you gave me the confidence to start 'rolling for product penetration' which by the way I also LOVE...my neck is starting to look pretty good...keeping up with my 'wants' is my main problem.
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MaryClaire..and here I was worrying about you doing the Salicylic acid peel!! But you're a pro! I have done lots of TCA peels but never my whole face at once (had that done by a dr.)
I would seriously love to do my undereyes...only worry about the downtime...how many days were you out of action?
I am starting the TNS as soon as it gets here!
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Hi Rebecca,
It took a week to peel from the undereye peel but it really prepared the area for the MD Forte and the TNS.
I've done a 30% TCA on my arms but it's so hard to get arms to peel and that's why I'm gearing up for the salicylic peel and I love that you have already blazed the trail.
I am careful to do a test and to read as much as I can first. I've read experiences from a lot of self-peelers on the MMH board and the ones that get in trouble are the ones that don't test/research.
Mary |
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Mon Jan 25, 2010 5:02 pm |
| A friend purchased some MD Forte Skin Rejuvenation Eye samples to try from an eBay seller. Today the seller emailed her to tell her that MD Forte is no longer making the samples, in case anyone is interested. ~ JJ |
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Tue Feb 02, 2010 7:20 pm |
I ordered the Reversital Microdermabrasion Face stick off of ebay after reading this thread. I really like the way it exfoliates my skin. It cost me, with shipping, about $17.
Simply amazing the way it makes my skin feel. I did apply with the stick but then used my fingers in circular movements to get it in areas hard to reach, like around my nose. Super exfoliation. I use my Clarisonic daily but will use this a few times a week. Thanks for mentioning it in the thread. |
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Tue Feb 02, 2010 8:32 pm |
| Waiting for Md Forte to arrive - will report then. |
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Wed Feb 03, 2010 2:57 am |
Anybody uses just TNS by itself???? I'm in my early 30s' and started to get fine lines underneath my eyes. Trying not to be really aggressive as I don't have big wrinkles.
Do you think I can get rid of those fine lines only with TNS?? |
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Wed Feb 03, 2010 7:00 am |
| I heard that they are discontinuing the MD Forte eye cream and are promoting their new line called Vivite. |
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Wed Feb 03, 2010 7:12 am |
| cookie wrote: |
| I heard that they are discontinuing the MD Forte eye cream and are promoting their new line called Vivite. |
They definitely seem to be phasing the MDForte out that's for sure. |
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Wed Feb 03, 2010 4:06 pm |
| rileygirl wrote: |
| cookie wrote: |
| I heard that they are discontinuing the MD Forte eye cream and are promoting their new line called Vivite. |
They definitely seem to be phasing the MDForte out that's for sure. |
Well thanks for that information, Cookie and Riley. I will stock up, for sure. ~ JJ |
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Thu Feb 04, 2010 3:44 am |
Damn! Isn't it always the case that as soon as you find something you love, they discontinue it! 
Anyway, my MD Forte and TNS have now arrived and I'm ready to begin my new eye regime. Just a couple of questions, please?
Firstly, I see that you need to wait 20-30 mins after applying the MD Forte before layering some eye cream over the top, but what about the TNS? Do I need to wait a certain length of time, or just until the product appears to be absorbed?
And finally, is this a continuous treatment or do you perform it for, say, one month on, one month off, etc?
Sorry if these questions have been asked before. I did a quick skim read and couldn't find the answers, but don't have time for a more thorough read through this morning.
Many thanks! |
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Thu Feb 04, 2010 8:11 am |
| majorb wrote: |
Damn! Isn't it always the case that as soon as you find something you love, they discontinue it!
Anyway, my MD Forte and TNS have now arrived and I'm ready to begin my new eye regime. Just a couple of questions, please?
Firstly, I see that you need to wait 20-30 mins after applying the MD Forte before layering some eye cream over the top, but what about the TNS? Do I need to wait a certain length of time, or just until the product appears to be absorbed?
And finally, is this a continuous treatment or do you perform it for, say, one month on, one month off, etc?
Sorry if these questions have been asked before. I did a quick skim read and couldn't find the answers, but don't have time for a more thorough read through this morning.
Many thanks! |
Hi, Majorb - of course they are in the process of discontinuing the product. I love it; therefore it WILL be discontinued! GRRRRRR.
No, you don't have to wait with the TNS, although a give it about 5 minutes to be absorbed, and if you have the samples rather than the jar, you may not even need a moisturizing eye product over it.
The only reason you wait with the MDForte is to give the Glycolic and Retinol time to work without changing their pH.
These two eye products have become my regimen. But all of us are different, and if you are happy with your results after a few months, stick these in the fridge for future use and see if you like just using a normal eye cream. I would venture to say that you will end up using them again, but they do have a lasting effect. I'll go off them for a week or so and then get back on them, just to see what happens. I've never had the lines return in just a week; don't know about any longer than that. HTH ~ JJ |
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Thu Feb 04, 2010 8:15 am |
I've started on the TNS eye cream now. Will be using this nightly along with RA every other night.
This is a lovely rich eye cream that is very moisturizing. You only need a tiny amount so it should last a very long time.
It seems to be quite strong as it burns slightly on application...hoping this won't cause a problem with continued use.
Anyways this is my initial impression of the TNS cream and I'll report back on any results after giving it a good trial run. |
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Thu Feb 04, 2010 8:20 am |
| brierrose wrote: |
I've started on the TNS eye cream now. Will be using this nightly along with RA every other night.
This is a lovely rich eye cream that is very moisturizing. You only need a tiny amount so it should last a very long time.
It seems to be quite strong as it burns slightly on application...hoping this won't cause a problem with continued use.
Anyways this is my initial impression of the TNS cream and I'll report back on any results after giving it a good trial run. |
Brierrose, your undereye skin will acclimate to it. If it makes you red or crinkly, back off to every third night for a week or so, then switch back to every other night. HTH ~ JJ |
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Thu Feb 04, 2010 8:36 am |
Thanks JJ for your counsel! I did wonder if I would acclimate to it as you said. The slight burning does dissipate and it doesn't make me red or crinkly.
I think because it does seem quite active (which is a good thing) I will ease into it for awhile. That's usually the best route for me to take with stronger products anyways. |
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Thu Feb 04, 2010 11:40 am |
jjbeacham - Thanks ever so much for such a helpful reply. Tonight will be my first time (so to speak!), wish me luck!
I'll report back when I notice anything. |
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Thu Feb 04, 2010 12:13 pm |
| majorb wrote: |
jjbeacham - Thanks ever so much for such a helpful reply. Tonight will be my first time (so to speak!), wish me luck!
I'll report back when I notice anything. |
You know I wish you all the luck possible! After I posted above about MD Forte perhaps being discontinued, I searched for it online. That may be the case eventually, but all of the major online skin stores that have always sold it are still selling it. Whew!!! There is not a short supply of it. There has been such a good response by consumers to MD Forte Skin Rejuvenation Eye, I would think that if they do eliminate the line or certain products in it, they will do so very slowly.~ JJ |
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Fri Feb 05, 2010 3:16 am |
jjbeacham - I hope it is a gradual discontinuation. Such a shame, though, since it seems to work so well for so many.
I used the TNS last night (was going to use the MD Forte, but I forgot and was so late to bed that I didn't have time to wait 20-30 mins - must get into a proper routine). It was extremely comfortable on my dry eyes, and I didn't bother putting moisturiser over the top as it felt fine. Saves a bit of money on eye cream! |
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Fri Feb 05, 2010 7:37 am |
| still waiting for my orders to arrive, looking forward to try them |
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Fri Feb 05, 2010 10:02 pm |
| I have both the Forte and the TNS products and usage is in full swing. |
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Sat Feb 06, 2010 9:45 am |
| sister sweets wrote: |
| I have both the Forte and the TNS products and usage is in full swing. |
Me, too! I'm hoping for success like so many of you have had already! I'm also using retin a on my tough as nails skin. |
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Sat Feb 13, 2010 8:33 pm |
This is sounding so tempting to the fine lines under my eyes!
For those of you using this system, what eye creams are you using, and what about them do you like? My under eyes do tend to lose moisture quite easily so I'm a little concerned about this part  |
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