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Fri Sep 17, 2010 3:52 pm  |
| Nimue wrote: |
Do you have the ingredients list for the Natural Instinct? How does natural instinct compare to burnout kids on other ways (white cast, thickness, spreadability, flakiness, etc)? Also, where do you purchase natural instinct? |
White cast
Natural Instinct has more white cast than burnout. Since I have a snow white skin, it's not a big problem, when I ask other people if they see that I wear sunblock they say "no".
Thickness
I would say NI is a bit thicker.
Spreadability
NI is a win for me here. But remember my skin is on a dry side, so it absorbs much of the moisture from the Burnout and then feels incredibly dry. With NI it feels a bit greasy before it dries out (3-5 minutes). So I wait for a couple minutes before applying powder which takes the extra shine away.
Here are some reviews from MUA:
http://www.makeupalley.com/product/showreview.asp/ItemId=100053/Natural_Instinct_-_Natural_Mineral_Sunblock_Cream_SPF_30/Unlisted_Brand/Sunscreen
I'm planning to try Sofina - Perfect UV and Devita ss so that I compare NI with more elegant ss.
The last time I bought it from http://emed.com.au/ but they no longer carry it, so I'll have to find another place. It is also fairly cheap: 250 g for $18
http://www.epharmacy.com.au/product.asp?id=55153&pname=Natural+Instinct+Mineral+Sunscreen+SPF30%2B+250g
DarkMOon, thanks for the ingredients! |
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Sat Sep 18, 2010 9:51 am |
| I just want to say that I have been using Burnout for a couple of weeks--before I found this thread and I really like it. I use the Eco-Clear version--got it at Whole Foods. I have used every sunscreen under the sun (haha) and I think Burnout is quality stuff. Nice texture, no white cast, not greasy. Holds up while I am running outside in the sun. |
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Sat Sep 18, 2010 10:35 am |
| DarkMoon wrote: |
Nimue,
Hi, I haven't tried Natural Instinct but here are the ingredients for the SPF 30.
Purified Water, Capryl/Caprylyl Triglyceride (vergetable/palm derivative), Cyclomethicone (natural mineral derived), Cetyl Alcohol (vegetable/palm derivative), Cetomacrogol (plant derived), Polymeric Alcohol hydroxy fatty ester (derived from cane alcolhol and palm oil), Dimethicone (natural mineral derived), Glyceryl Distearate (vegetable/palm derivative), Vitamin E, Carbomer, Germall Plus (preservative) Active ingredient: Zinc Oxide 150mg/g (derived from natural minerals) |
I think that's the old ingredient list from way back (2008?). They have since reformulated. (What's new?  )
The Aussie sunscreens are only required to disclose their active ingredients and preservative used, so this is only what i know of the current one:
-Zinc Oxide 200mg/g
-Sodium Hydroxymethylglycinate as preservative
-Enriched with Aloe Vera and Vitamin E |
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Sun Sep 19, 2010 4:03 pm |
| Petunia wrote: |
| I just want to say that I have been using Burnout for a couple of weeks--before I found this thread and I really like it. I use the Eco-Clear version--got it at Whole Foods. I have used every sunscreen under the sun (haha) and I think Burnout is quality stuff. Nice texture, no white cast, not greasy. Holds up while I am running outside in the sun. |
What state are you in? I called 2 different whole foods and none of them heard of burnout ss! |
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Sun Sep 19, 2010 4:22 pm |
| Natalyn wrote: |
| Petunia wrote: |
| I just want to say that I have been using Burnout for a couple of weeks--before I found this thread and I really like it. I use the Eco-Clear version--got it at Whole Foods. I have used every sunscreen under the sun (haha) and I think Burnout is quality stuff. Nice texture, no white cast, not greasy. Holds up while I am running outside in the sun. |
What state are you in? I called 2 different whole foods and none of them heard of burnout ss! |
There is an earlier post that it's only in California Whole Foods right now.
My guess is they are test marketing? I wonder if we ask out local WF if they might be able to get it in stock for us?  |
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Sun Sep 19, 2010 4:34 pm |
Natural Instinct sunscreen can be purchased from this site which ships internationally:
http://www.epharmacy.com.au/product.asp?id=55153&pname=Natural+Instinct+Mineral+Sunscreen+SPF30%2B+250g
It has more of a white cast than Burnout but the cast dissipates after a while. However this means that I can't go out immediately after applying or I will have a ghostly white face.
Natural Instinct has stronger oil control than Burnout. This makes it more suitsble for those with oily skin.
However it is less sticky than Burnout. Those of us who live in equatorial tropical climates find the Burnout suncreens remain tacky on the skin even after hours. I presume those who live in temperate climates have less of a problem with the tackiness. |
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Mon Sep 20, 2010 11:22 am |
RussianSunshine,
Thank you for the detailed comparison! That helps a lot. I see why Natural Instict is better for you and Burnout is probably better for me and fits my skin and preferences better. (I don't need it to be more moisturizing, I never found it tacky and I like the texture, I love the no white cast and the lightness and spreadability). Just because in my experience burnout is my favorite doesn't mean it'll be everyone's favorite.
About the "primer" aspect, burnout probably doesn't feel like a primer to you because it has no silicones and I'm betting that natural instict is full of silicones. That's another thing- I am definitely biased against products that don't disclose the full ingredients lists. |
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Mon Sep 20, 2010 1:48 pm |
Nimue, I don't think there are silicones in the Natural Instinct sunscreen. I know what it feels like to have silicones in the cream
(like ZO Oclipse sunscreen). They feel horrible and break me out. Besides, I don't see any in the list.
| DarkMoon wrote: |
Nimue,
Hi, I haven't tried Natural Instinct but here are the ingredients for the SPF 30.
Purified Water, Capryl/Caprylyl Triglyceride (vergetable/palm derivative), Cyclomethicone (natural mineral derived), Cetyl Alcohol (vegetable/palm derivative), Cetomacrogol (plant derived), Polymeric Alcohol hydroxy fatty ester (derived from cane alcolhol and palm oil), Dimethicone (natural mineral derived), Glyceryl Distearate (vegetable/palm derivative), Vitamin E, Carbomer, Germall Plus (preservative) Active ingredient: Zinc Oxide 150mg/g (derived from natural minerals) |
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Mon Sep 20, 2010 2:32 pm |
| I'm confused now. Is Natural Instinct another SS made by Burnout like the clear or kid or ocean tested version? |
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Mon Sep 20, 2010 2:45 pm |
| m1rox wrote: |
| Those of us who live in equatorial tropical climates find the Burnout suncreens remain tacky on the skin even after hours. I presume those who live in temperate climates have less of a problem with the tackiness. |
Agree. I think this is also something people may want to include in reviews - what part of the country/world they live in. It does make a difference! |
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Mon Sep 20, 2010 2:56 pm |
| Natalyn wrote: |
| I'm confused now. Is Natural Instinct another SS made by Burnout like the clear or kid or ocean tested version? |
No, it's a different mineral suncreen that I comparing Burnout with. |
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Mon Sep 20, 2010 4:25 pm |
| RussianSunshine wrote: |
Nimue, I don't think there are silicones in the Natural Instinct sunscreen. I know what it feels like to have silicones in the cream
(like ZO Oclipse sunscreen). They feel horrible and break me out. Besides, I don't see any in the list.
| DarkMoon wrote: |
Nimue,
Hi, I haven't tried Natural Instinct but here are the ingredients for the SPF 30.
Purified Water, Capryl/Caprylyl Triglyceride (vergetable/palm derivative), Cyclomethicone (natural mineral derived), Cetyl Alcohol (vegetable/palm derivative), Cetomacrogol (plant derived), Polymeric Alcohol hydroxy fatty ester (derived from cane alcolhol and palm oil), Dimethicone (natural mineral derived), Glyceryl Distearate (vegetable/palm derivative), Vitamin E, Carbomer, Germall Plus (preservative) Active ingredient: Zinc Oxide 150mg/g (derived from natural minerals) |
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It looks like there are a few silicones in this sunscreen. An easy way to spot them is to look for ingredients that end in -cone. However it looks like the kind that are derived from silica or sand. That and the way the sunscreen might be formulated could explain why it might not act like the typical silicones for you. |
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Mon Sep 20, 2010 5:16 pm |
Amarise,
Apparently that's an older ingredient list, the NI formula has since been changed and they haven't disclosed the full ingredients yet, only the actives. |
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Mon Sep 20, 2010 5:39 pm |
| Oh I see. Well hopefully there isn't any, especially if it works well for RussianSunshine. |
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Mon Sep 20, 2010 7:56 pm |
| Amarise wrote: |
| Oh I see. Well hopefully there isn't any, especially if it works well for RussianSunshine. |
My bad, I posted the ingredients as I found them listed online!
I am not particularly thrilled with non disclosure of all ingredients. |
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Tue Sep 21, 2010 12:43 pm |
| DarkMoon wrote: |
| Amarise wrote: |
| Oh I see. Well hopefully there isn't any, especially if it works well for RussianSunshine. |
My bad, I posted the ingredients as I found them listed online!
I am not particularly thrilled with non disclosure of all ingredients. |
I don't like it either, that's why I'm trying different sunscreens now. Have just ordered Devita and perhaps will try what Rileygirl recommends. The saga continues  |
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Tue Sep 21, 2010 12:52 pm |
| RussianSunshine wrote: |
I don't like it either, that's why I'm trying different sunscreens now. Have just ordered Devita and perhaps will try what Rileygirl recommends. The saga continues |
Do you want to try the new reformulated body block with 19% zinc oxide? Be wary of getting devita anywhere near your eyes. If you want to use it on your face, I recommend still using a different physical sunscreen in the eye area. I haven't tried the new version, but based on my experience of the old version, devita may not be moisturizing enough for you... It's the lightest sunscreen ever.
Based on your preferences, I think you'll like trukid sunscreen. It's thicker and richer than burnout. Initially, it's a little white but that goes away when you massage it in.
Trukid sunnydays:
Ingredients: Active: ZINC OXIDE 20%
PURIFIED WATER, ALOE BARBADENSIS LEAF JUICE, CAPRIC CAPRYLIC, TRIGLYCERIDES, SORBITAN STEARATE, POLYGLYCERYL-4 IDOSTEARATE, HEXYL LAURATE , CETYL DIMETHICONE, DIMETHICONE, CASTOR OIL, MAGNESIUM SULFATE (EPSOM SALT), SUNFLOWER OIL, JOJOBA OIL, CUCUMBER EXTRACT, GREEN TEA EXTRACT, TOCOPHEROLS (soy) POMEGRANATE JUICE, HYALURONIC ACID, PHENOXYETHANOL, ETHYL HEXYL GLYCERIN, Citrus Grandis (grapefruit) Oil, Citrus Junos (yuzu), Citrus Aurantifolia Dulcis (sweet orange) Oil |
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Tue Sep 21, 2010 2:50 pm |
I ordered Devita moisturizer with SPF.
| Nimue wrote: |
Trukid sunnydays:
Ingredients: Active: ZINC OXIDE 20%
PURIFIED WATER, ALOE BARBADENSIS LEAF JUICE, CAPRIC CAPRYLIC, TRIGLYCERIDES, SORBITAN STEARATE, POLYGLYCERYL-4 IDOSTEARATE, HEXYL LAURATE , CETYL DIMETHICONE, DIMETHICONE, CASTOR OIL, MAGNESIUM SULFATE (EPSOM SALT), SUNFLOWER OIL, JOJOBA OIL, CUCUMBER EXTRACT, GREEN TEA EXTRACT, TOCOPHEROLS (soy) POMEGRANATE JUICE, HYALURONIC ACID, PHENOXYETHANOL, ETHYL HEXYL GLYCERIN, Citrus Grandis (grapefruit) Oil, Citrus Junos (yuzu), Citrus Aurantifolia Dulcis (sweet orange) Oil |
One more to the list |
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Tue Sep 21, 2010 3:23 pm |
| Nimue wrote: |
Trukid sunnydays:
Ingredients: Active: ZINC OXIDE 20%
PURIFIED WATER, ALOE BARBADENSIS LEAF JUICE, CAPRIC CAPRYLIC, TRIGLYCERIDES, SORBITAN STEARATE, POLYGLYCERYL-4 IDOSTEARATE, HEXYL LAURATE , CETYL DIMETHICONE, DIMETHICONE, CASTOR OIL, MAGNESIUM SULFATE (EPSOM SALT), SUNFLOWER OIL, JOJOBA OIL, CUCUMBER EXTRACT, GREEN TEA EXTRACT, TOCOPHEROLS (soy) POMEGRANATE JUICE, HYALURONIC ACID, PHENOXYETHANOL, ETHYL HEXYL GLYCERIN, Citrus Grandis (grapefruit) Oil, Citrus Junos (yuzu), Citrus Aurantifolia Dulcis (sweet orange) Oil |
Don't citrus oils increase photo-sensitivity? Or is this just too small an amount to worry about? |
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Tue Sep 21, 2010 4:13 pm |
YES, Sorry but it drives me crazy how many daytime skin care products and sunscreens add in citrus EO's! I realize that they are low on the list, but as concentrated as they are you only use drops per oz. of product! GRRR
| ShastaGirl wrote: |
| Nimue wrote: |
Trukid sunnydays:
Ingredients: Active: ZINC OXIDE 20%
PURIFIED WATER, ALOE BARBADENSIS LEAF JUICE, CAPRIC CAPRYLIC, TRIGLYCERIDES, SORBITAN STEARATE, POLYGLYCERYL-4 IDOSTEARATE, HEXYL LAURATE , CETYL DIMETHICONE, DIMETHICONE, CASTOR OIL, MAGNESIUM SULFATE (EPSOM SALT), SUNFLOWER OIL, JOJOBA OIL, CUCUMBER EXTRACT, GREEN TEA EXTRACT, TOCOPHEROLS (soy) POMEGRANATE JUICE, HYALURONIC ACID, PHENOXYETHANOL, ETHYL HEXYL GLYCERIN, Citrus Grandis (grapefruit) Oil, Citrus Junos (yuzu), Citrus Aurantifolia Dulcis (sweet orange) Oil |
Don't citrus oils increase photo-sensitivity? Or is this just too small an amount to worry about? |
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Tue Sep 21, 2010 7:45 pm |
| ShastaGirl wrote: |
Don't citrus oils increase photo-sensitivity? Or is this just too small an amount to worry about? |
I'm not worried about it. It would be more of a concern if trukid didn't also have 20% zinc oxide... And it's probably a very small amount, jusy to give it a nicer scent. |
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Mon Oct 04, 2010 9:13 am |
| Another caution, is that Burnout not the best choice of sunscreen to apply on a red very sensitive skin after an intensive peel. I don't know why, but it burned like hell. |
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Mon Oct 04, 2010 9:51 am |
| RussianSunshine wrote: |
| Another caution, is that Burnout not the best choice of sunscreen to apply on a red very sensitive skin after an intensive peel. I don't know why, but it burned like hell. |
I'm sorry, RussianSunshine. I also had that happen with the Burnout, as well, when I was going through a very sensitive skin phase. |
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Mon Oct 04, 2010 1:05 pm |
| rileygirl wrote: |
| RussianSunshine wrote: |
| Another caution, is that Burnout not the best choice of sunscreen to apply on a red very sensitive skin after an intensive peel. I don't know why, but it burned like hell. |
I'm sorry, RussianSunshine. I also had that happen with the Burnout, as well, when I was going through a very sensitive skin phase. |
Really? Wow. Which burnout was that? That's so interesting because for me it's the opposite, it calms my skin. Like after a shower if my skin's a little pink putting on the burnout kids calms it down, gets rid of any hint of redness and feels great. Burnout is my number 1 choice for sensitive skin (as opposed to say, devita, trukid, keys, etc which all have those pesky essential oils) I apply burnout super generously around my eyes and it's never irritated my eyes. |
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Mon Oct 04, 2010 2:15 pm |
| Nimue wrote: |
Really? Wow. Which burnout was that? |
It was the Kids version for me, Nimue. This was when my skin was really flaring up badly. Not sure why, as I normally don't have issues, but then again when my skin was really acting up I had trouble with all of my normal products burning. |
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