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Sat Jun 23, 2012 8:52 am |
Renata wrote: |
Thank you all for your ReLuma reviews! For months I've been considering trying it, and your comments helped me make the decision to give it a go. FYI, at the moment, Truth in Aging is selling the cleanser, serum, and moisturizer trio for $164. As I understand it, their combo includes the original version (which some users apparently prefer) of the moisturizer--the Skin Illuminating Anti-Aging Moisturizer--instead of the new formulation of the moisturizer--the Advanced Facial Moisturizer. There is a comparison review of the two moisturizers on their site, as well as a review of the Skin Illuminating Anti-Aging Moisturizer only and a review of the Advanced Facial Moisturizer only.
Also, the other day I contacted http://www.cellvitals.com to ask how to use ReLuma in combination with retinol, alpha or beta hydroxy acids, or vitamin C. I heard back from them today and they said they asked the manufacturer and: "According to them, you can use retinol, alpha or beta hydroxy acids, or vitamin C with ReLuma. Just apply them first, and then use ReLuma. You should wait for the first products to dry first, usually 3 to 5 minutes."
I haven't received the product yet so I haven't had the chance to experiment with usage, but it seems a little counterintuitive to not put ReLuma on first in a couple of cases. But I will follow those instructions to begin with, and maybe switch it up later. I plan to use ReLuma alone for the first two or three weeks, anyway, before I add other products. By the way, Cell Vitals is currently offering 20% off on bundles and the eye cream. |
Thanks for the info and for finding out the other product usage! I agree re luma first. |
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Sat Jun 23, 2012 9:31 am |
You're welcome for the info, loopylori and Tiny. I hope it works, too. It'll be hard for me to be patient and wait for full results. I'm prone to switching up products if I'm not seeing any effects in three or four weeks, but I'm going to stick with ReLuma for at least three months, or whenever the bottles run out! |
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Sat Jun 23, 2012 9:35 am |
Renata wrote: |
You're welcome for the info, loopylori and Tiny. I hope it works, too. It'll be hard for me to be patient and wait for full results. I'm prone to switching up products if I'm not seeing any effects in three or four weeks, but I'm going to stick with ReLuma for at least three months, or whenever the bottles run out! |
Thats what I felt at first. I am seeing results, so if they continue, this is what I will be stick with!
I think you will know within first 3-4 weeks! |
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Sat Jun 23, 2012 9:37 am |
Renata wrote: |
You're welcome for the info, loopylori and Tiny. I hope it works, too. It'll be hard for me to be patient and wait for full results. I'm prone to switching up products if I'm not seeing any effects in three or four weeks, but I'm going to stick with ReLuma for at least three months, or whenever the bottles run out! |
Allow me to add my thanks Renata!
I thought I would try and be underwhelmed, I bought a second Trio way before I need to I am loving this and seeing lines fade in a short time!
I am just loving what this is doing for my skin!
I hope you have the same great results!!!! |
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Sat Jun 23, 2012 9:38 am |
Renata wrote: |
You're welcome for the info, loopylori and Tiny. I hope it works, too. It'll be hard for me to be patient and wait for full results. I'm prone to switching up products if I'm not seeing any effects in three or four weeks, but I'm going to stick with ReLuma for at least three months, or whenever the bottles run out! |
Can you tell me what the differences in the creams are? I will go read, but curious what your thoughts on this are. I know they both contain the good stuff, but other than that, clueless |
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Sat Jun 23, 2012 10:35 am |
Renata,
thanks soo much for that I really wasnt sure of the order, although I have to say I am a bit like you, my gut says reluma first. But I guess they should know |
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Sat Jun 23, 2012 10:38 am |
10Sylvia5 wrote: |
Renata,
thanks soo much for that I really wasnt sure of the order, although I have to say I am a bit like you, my gut says reluma first. But I guess they should know |
The only other thing I am using at night now is my Retin A and it is the cream, I am hesitant to use that first????? |
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Sat Jun 23, 2012 11:01 am |
DarkMoon wrote: |
10Sylvia5 wrote: |
Renata,
thanks soo much for that I really wasnt sure of the order, although I have to say I am a bit like you, my gut says reluma first. But I guess they should know |
The only other thing I am using at night now is my Retin A and it is the cream, I am hesitant to use that first????? |
I wouldn't assume whoever answered the question REALLY knows, unless they are one of the creators or formulators.
I would go with the typical "thinner stuff first" application to ensure it doesn't just sit on top of the Retin A. |
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Sat Jun 23, 2012 11:33 am |
bethany wrote: |
DarkMoon wrote: |
10Sylvia5 wrote: |
Renata,
thanks soo much for that I really wasnt sure of the order, although I have to say I am a bit like you, my gut says reluma first. But I guess they should know |
The only other thing I am using at night now is my Retin A and it is the cream, I am hesitant to use that first????? |
I wouldn't assume whoever answered the question REALLY knows, unless they are one of the creators or formulators.
I would go with the typical "thinner stuff first" application to ensure it doesn't just sit on top of the Retin A. |
I know it is best to never assume or take unknown people as an authority, I have been using my RA last thing. |
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Sat Jun 23, 2012 11:44 am |
Since ReLuma serum is very thin, and it contains the ingredient I want most on my skin, I am using it first, wait a min or till absorbed then I'd add any other product, thin to thickests as Bethany said!
ok thats my 2 cents |
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Sat Jun 23, 2012 11:46 am |
Tiny wrote: |
Since ReLuma serum is very thin, and it contains the ingredient I want most on my skin, I am using it first, wait a min or till absorbed then I'd add any other product, thin to thickests as Bethany said!
ok thats my 2 cents |
Totally agree Tiny, I have always applied my products with that rule in mind and stick to that!
I want the goodies in the serum and "cream/serum" first and foremost! |
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Sat Jun 23, 2012 12:38 pm |
Thanks, DarkMoon! You're welcome, 10Sylvia5.
Tiny wrote: |
Can you tell me what the differences in the creams are? I will go read, but curious what your thoughts on this are. I know they both contain the good stuff, but other than that, clueless |
Tiny, I haven't used either moisturizer yet so I can only go by the comparison in the reviews. It seems that the new formulation is more moisturizing and contains antioxidants and is in a larger sized bottle but it lacks the amino acids that were found in the original moisturizer. I ordered the trio with the original moisturizer. If I like ReLuma, I will probably also test the new formula because my skin is on the dry side.
I agree with you guys. It doesn't sound right that ReLuma would be applied last, after those other products (doesn't make sense to me and I probably won't use as directed), but as I mentioned those application instructions supposedly come from the manufacturer. The person who responded to my inquiry at Cell Vitals apologized for the delay in getting back to me and said that "Since I did not have the answer to your question, I had to contact the manufacturer."
The same day that I contacted Cell Vitals, I also asked the question at http://www.buyrelumanow.com/contact.php. The next day, before I heard back from Cell Vitals, I messaged http://invitrxtherapeutics.squarespace.com/contact-us/. If I get a response from the other two sites, I'll let you all know. |
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Sat Jun 23, 2012 1:00 pm |
Renata wrote: |
Thanks, DarkMoon! You're welcome, 10Sylvia5.
Tiny wrote: |
Can you tell me what the differences in the creams are? I will go read, but curious what your thoughts on this are. I know they both contain the good stuff, but other than that, clueless |
Tiny, I haven't used either moisturizer yet so I can only go by the comparison in the reviews. It seems that the new formulation is more moisturizing and contains antioxidants and is in a larger sized bottle but it lacks the amino acids that were found in the original moisturizer. I ordered the trio with the original moisturizer. If I like ReLuma, I will probably also test the new formula because my skin is on the dry side.
I agree with you guys. It doesn't sound right that ReLuma would be applied last, after those other products (doesn't make sense to me and I probably won't use as directed), but as I mentioned those application instructions supposedly come from the manufacturer. The person who responded to my inquiry at Cell Vitals apologized for the delay in getting back to me and said that "Since I did not have the answer to your question, I had to contact the manufacturer."
The same day that I contacted Cell Vitals, I also asked the question at http://www.buyrelumanow.com/contact.php. The next day, before I heard back from Cell Vitals, I messaged http://invitrxtherapeutics.squarespace.com/contact-us/. If I get a response from the other two sites, I'll let you all know. |
Thanks for all the information Renata, now I wonder if my second set (purchased from Cell Vitals shop on Amazon) which has the larger serum and cream is the new or older formula? I don't want to open it until I am ready to use it.
It just goes against all we have always read to apply a heaver cream based product first!
I call the cream a serum/cream because while nice and moisturizing it has a light serum like consistency!
We are the rule breakers!
Please report what you think once you use the "moisturizer" and what you hear back from invitrxtherapeutics! |
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Sat Jun 23, 2012 1:24 pm |
DM,
I just looked, the set you ordered from Cellvitals will have the New cream in it! the serum and such is all the same! So you can let us know which you prefer It appears only TIA is carrying the older version (by older this is new within last few months). It seems they requested to keep it and Re Luma agreed to continue making it for them.
From what I can tell, both creams have the same first ingredient, the stem cells! so thats the most important to me.
but I am very curious as to the difference |
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Sat Jun 23, 2012 1:34 pm |
Tiny wrote: |
DM,
I just looked, the set you ordered from Cellvitals will have the New cream in it! the serum and such is all the same! So you can let us know which you prefer It appears only TIA is carrying the older version (by older this is new within last few months). It seems they requested to keep it and Re Luma agreed to continue making it for them.
From what I can tell, both creams have the same first ingredient, the stem cells! so thats the most important to me.
but I am very curious as to the difference |
Thanks for checking that out Tiny!
I will let you know what if any differences I notice once I start the new batch! |
_________________ I'LL SEE YOU ON THE DARKSIDE OF THE MOON.... |
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Sat Jun 23, 2012 1:40 pm |
DarkMoon wrote: |
Tiny wrote: |
DM,
I just looked, the set you ordered from Cellvitals will have the New cream in it! the serum and such is all the same! So you can let us know which you prefer It appears only TIA is carrying the older version (by older this is new within last few months). It seems they requested to keep it and Re Luma agreed to continue making it for them.
From what I can tell, both creams have the same first ingredient, the stem cells! so thats the most important to me.
but I am very curious as to the difference |
Thanks for checking that out Tiny!
I will let you know what if any differences I notice once I start the new batch! |
or maybe we could all scream enough to twist your arm into trying it and letting us know, how it feels, ect............. mumbles ladiessssssssssssssssssss help |
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Sat Jun 23, 2012 1:49 pm |
Tiny wrote: |
DarkMoon wrote: |
Tiny wrote: |
DM,
I just looked, the set you ordered from Cellvitals will have the New cream in it! the serum and such is all the same! So you can let us know which you prefer It appears only TIA is carrying the older version (by older this is new within last few months). It seems they requested to keep it and Re Luma agreed to continue making it for them.
From what I can tell, both creams have the same first ingredient, the stem cells! so thats the most important to me.
but I am very curious as to the difference |
Thanks for checking that out Tiny!
I will let you know what if any differences I notice once I start the new batch! |
or maybe we could all scream enough to twist your arm into trying it and letting us know, how it feels, ect............. mumbles ladiessssssssssssssssssss help |
For you I may just compare a squirt on the back of my hand of each and let you know!
The things I will do for you ladies! |
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Sat Jun 23, 2012 1:51 pm |
lmao!! ty DM
ok the difference in ingredients that I can see are: the new version has
acetyl hexapeptide8 and luephasyl 16, a few other tweaks but not much |
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Sat Jun 23, 2012 2:25 pm |
Tiny wrote: |
lmao!! ty DM
ok the difference in ingredients that I can see are: the new version has
acetyl hexapeptide8 and luephasyl 16, a few other tweaks but not much |
I will compare the two when I do my skincare tonight and report the difference in their feel! |
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Sat Jun 23, 2012 3:35 pm |
Tiny wrote: |
lmao!! ty DM
ok the difference in ingredients that I can see are: the new version has
acetyl hexapeptide8 and luephasyl 16, a few other tweaks but not much |
From what I found, the formulations are very different:
ReLuma Advanced Facial Moisturizer: Human Adipose Derived Stem Cell Conditioned Media, DI-Water, Glycerin, Cetearyl Olivate/Sorbitant Olivate, Jojoba Oil, Sorbitant Olivate, Caprilic/Capric Triglycerides, Polysorbate-20, Shea Butter, Aloe Barbabensis Leaf Juice, Alpha-Toco[heryl Acetate, Dimethicone, Squalane, Phenoxyethanol, Xanthan Gum, Arabidopsis Thaliana extract/lecithin, Citrus Gradis Extract, Camellia Sinesis extract, Tetrahexyldecyl Ascorbate, Niacinamide, Sodium Hyaluronate, Acetyl Hexapeptide-8, Pentapeptide-18/Caprylyl Glycol, Co-Enzyme Q10, DL-Panthenol, Allantoin.
Original Formula ReLuma Anti-Aging Moisturizer: Human Adipose Derived Stem Cell Conditioned Media, Cetearyl Olivate, Sodium Olivate, Caprilic Capric Triglycerides, Vegetable Glycerin, Jojoba Oil, Jojoba Ester, Sodium L-Pyrrolidone Carboxylate, Sodium Lactate, L-Arginine, L-Aspartic Acid, Glycine, L-Alanine, L-Serine, L-Valine, L-Proline, L-Threonine, L-Leucine, L-Phenylamine, Silica, Vitamin E Tocopherol, Xanthan Gum, Hyaluronic Acid, Coenzyme Q-10, Methylisothiazolinone and Caprylyl Glycol, Water.
http://shop.invitrx.com/products.asp?criteria=39307
http://www.truthinaging.com/reluma-moisturizer |
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Sat Jun 23, 2012 7:10 pm |
I believe what Tiny is referring to mainly is that the first ingredient and most important is Human Adipose Derived Stem Cell Conditioned Media in both.
So ladies here is the story on consistency, the new one is a little thicker than the older formula we got at TIA, but it is still not what I would consider heavy at all more lotion like than anything. It sinks in just as nicely as the older formula so feel wise not a huge difference.
Lacy53 wrote: |
Tiny wrote: |
lmao!! ty DM
ok the difference in ingredients that I can see are: the new version has
acetyl hexapeptide8 and luephasyl 16, a few other tweaks but not much |
From what I found, the formulations are very different:
ReLuma Advanced Facial Moisturizer: Human Adipose Derived Stem Cell Conditioned Media, DI-Water, Glycerin, Cetearyl Olivate/Sorbitant Olivate, Jojoba Oil, Sorbitant Olivate, Caprilic/Capric Triglycerides, Polysorbate-20, Shea Butter, Aloe Barbabensis Leaf Juice, Alpha-Toco[heryl Acetate, Dimethicone, Squalane, Phenoxyethanol, Xanthan Gum, Arabidopsis Thaliana extract/lecithin, Citrus Gradis Extract, Camellia Sinesis extract, Tetrahexyldecyl Ascorbate, Niacinamide, Sodium Hyaluronate, Acetyl Hexapeptide-8, Pentapeptide-18/Caprylyl Glycol, Co-Enzyme Q10, DL-Panthenol, Allantoin.
Original Formula ReLuma Anti-Aging Moisturizer: Human Adipose Derived Stem Cell Conditioned Media, Cetearyl Olivate, Sodium Olivate, Caprilic Capric Triglycerides, Vegetable Glycerin, Jojoba Oil, Jojoba Ester, Sodium L-Pyrrolidone Carboxylate, Sodium Lactate, L-Arginine, L-Aspartic Acid, Glycine, L-Alanine, L-Serine, L-Valine, L-Proline, L-Threonine, L-Leucine, L-Phenylamine, Silica, Vitamin E Tocopherol, Xanthan Gum, Hyaluronic Acid, Coenzyme Q-10, Methylisothiazolinone and Caprylyl Glycol, Water.
http://shop.invitrx.com/products.asp?criteria=39307
http://www.truthinaging.com/reluma-moisturizer |
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Sun Jun 24, 2012 8:11 am |
Lacy53 wrote: |
Tiny wrote: |
lmao!! ty DM
ok the difference in ingredients that I can see are: the new version has
acetyl hexapeptide8 and luephasyl 16, a few other tweaks but not much |
From what I found, the formulations are very different:
ReLuma Advanced Facial Moisturizer: Human Adipose Derived Stem Cell Conditioned Media, DI-Water, Glycerin, Cetearyl Olivate/Sorbitant Olivate, Jojoba Oil, Sorbitant Olivate, Caprilic/Capric Triglycerides, Polysorbate-20, Shea Butter, Aloe Barbabensis Leaf Juice, Alpha-Toco[heryl Acetate, Dimethicone, Squalane, Phenoxyethanol, Xanthan Gum, Arabidopsis Thaliana extract/lecithin, Citrus Gradis Extract, Camellia Sinesis extract, Tetrahexyldecyl Ascorbate, Niacinamide, Sodium Hyaluronate, Acetyl Hexapeptide-8, Pentapeptide-18/Caprylyl Glycol, Co-Enzyme Q10, DL-Panthenol, Allantoin.
Original Formula ReLuma Anti-Aging Moisturizer: Human Adipose Derived Stem Cell Conditioned Media, Cetearyl Olivate, Sodium Olivate, Caprilic Capric Triglycerides, Vegetable Glycerin, Jojoba Oil, Jojoba Ester, Sodium L-Pyrrolidone Carboxylate, Sodium Lactate, L-Arginine, L-Aspartic Acid, Glycine, L-Alanine, L-Serine, L-Valine, L-Proline, L-Threonine, L-Leucine, L-Phenylamine, Silica, Vitamin E Tocopherol, Xanthan Gum, Hyaluronic Acid, Coenzyme Q-10, Methylisothiazolinone and Caprylyl Glycol, Water.
http://shop.invitrx.com/products.asp?criteria=39307
http://www.truthinaging.com/reluma-moisturizer |
Thanks Lacy, I was reading and trying to get out of the house, I had a big function to attend. What I was pointing out was the adition of ayctel hexapeptide, its what I could see fast, and the biggest change that I noticed. Also the first ingredient is the same, its the important one to me.
The important thing for me is the serum is the same. But I might want to try the other cream later, obviously they think they've improved it, others seem to still like the older version. So I am clueless. |
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Sun Jun 24, 2012 8:13 am |
DarkMoon wrote: |
I believe what Tiny is referring to mainly is that the first ingredient and most important is Human Adipose Derived Stem Cell Conditioned Media in both.
So ladies here is the story on consistency, the new one is a little thicker than the older formula we got at TIA, but it is still not what I would consider heavy at all more lotion like than anything. It sinks in just as nicely as the older formula so feel wise not a huge difference.
Lacy53 wrote: |
Tiny wrote: |
lmao!! ty DM
ok the difference in ingredients that I can see are: the new version has
acetyl hexapeptide8 and luephasyl 16, a few other tweaks but not much |
From what I found, the formulations are very different:
ReLuma Advanced Facial Moisturizer: Human Adipose Derived Stem Cell Conditioned Media, DI-Water, Glycerin, Cetearyl Olivate/Sorbitant Olivate, Jojoba Oil, Sorbitant Olivate, Caprilic/Capric Triglycerides, Polysorbate-20, Shea Butter, Aloe Barbabensis Leaf Juice, Alpha-Toco[heryl Acetate, Dimethicone, Squalane, Phenoxyethanol, Xanthan Gum, Arabidopsis Thaliana extract/lecithin, Citrus Gradis Extract, Camellia Sinesis extract, Tetrahexyldecyl Ascorbate, Niacinamide, Sodium Hyaluronate, Acetyl Hexapeptide-8, Pentapeptide-18/Caprylyl Glycol, Co-Enzyme Q10, DL-Panthenol, Allantoin.
Original Formula ReLuma Anti-Aging Moisturizer: Human Adipose Derived Stem Cell Conditioned Media, Cetearyl Olivate, Sodium Olivate, Caprilic Capric Triglycerides, Vegetable Glycerin, Jojoba Oil, Jojoba Ester, Sodium L-Pyrrolidone Carboxylate, Sodium Lactate, L-Arginine, L-Aspartic Acid, Glycine, L-Alanine, L-Serine, L-Valine, L-Proline, L-Threonine, L-Leucine, L-Phenylamine, Silica, Vitamin E Tocopherol, Xanthan Gum, Hyaluronic Acid, Coenzyme Q-10, Methylisothiazolinone and Caprylyl Glycol, Water.
http://shop.invitrx.com/products.asp?criteria=39307
http://www.truthinaging.com/reluma-moisturizer |
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Thanks DM!!! I just wonder which is better, seems those at TIA love the old. |
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Sun Jun 24, 2012 8:19 am |
Tiny wrote: |
DarkMoon wrote: |
I believe what Tiny is referring to mainly is that the first ingredient and most important is Human Adipose Derived Stem Cell Conditioned Media in both.
So ladies here is the story on consistency, the new one is a little thicker than the older formula we got at TIA, but it is still not what I would consider heavy at all more lotion like than anything. It sinks in just as nicely as the older formula so feel wise not a huge difference.
Lacy53 wrote: |
Tiny wrote: |
lmao!! ty DM
ok the difference in ingredients that I can see are: the new version has
acetyl hexapeptide8 and luephasyl 16, a few other tweaks but not much |
From what I found, the formulations are very different:
ReLuma Advanced Facial Moisturizer: Human Adipose Derived Stem Cell Conditioned Media, DI-Water, Glycerin, Cetearyl Olivate/Sorbitant Olivate, Jojoba Oil, Sorbitant Olivate, Caprilic/Capric Triglycerides, Polysorbate-20, Shea Butter, Aloe Barbabensis Leaf Juice, Alpha-Toco[heryl Acetate, Dimethicone, Squalane, Phenoxyethanol, Xanthan Gum, Arabidopsis Thaliana extract/lecithin, Citrus Gradis Extract, Camellia Sinesis extract, Tetrahexyldecyl Ascorbate, Niacinamide, Sodium Hyaluronate, Acetyl Hexapeptide-8, Pentapeptide-18/Caprylyl Glycol, Co-Enzyme Q10, DL-Panthenol, Allantoin.
Original Formula ReLuma Anti-Aging Moisturizer: Human Adipose Derived Stem Cell Conditioned Media, Cetearyl Olivate, Sodium Olivate, Caprilic Capric Triglycerides, Vegetable Glycerin, Jojoba Oil, Jojoba Ester, Sodium L-Pyrrolidone Carboxylate, Sodium Lactate, L-Arginine, L-Aspartic Acid, Glycine, L-Alanine, L-Serine, L-Valine, L-Proline, L-Threonine, L-Leucine, L-Phenylamine, Silica, Vitamin E Tocopherol, Xanthan Gum, Hyaluronic Acid, Coenzyme Q-10, Methylisothiazolinone and Caprylyl Glycol, Water.
http://shop.invitrx.com/products.asp?criteria=39307
http://www.truthinaging.com/reluma-moisturizer |
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Thanks DM!!! I just wonder which is better, seems those at TIA love the old. |
You are welcome,
I might try the new one on my face tonight so we have a better idea as I said the consistency of the newer formula is a bit thicker, if one is more effective would be difficult to say until using it for a few weeks my feeling is the most important ingredient is the same and probably most concentrated in the serum.
How was your function?? |
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Sun Jun 24, 2012 9:23 am |
Oh it was a beautiful night!! I am curious on which I'd prefer to use, I'll prob get the other cream to see! I feel fine using old, since I really want other ingredient, but I also think the new has Vit C, or did you tell me the old did too! Ok someone disect this, I am def not that gal to do that! Lacy was kind enough to list the diff, now someon point them out LMAO! and Thanks in advance
also if anyone is thinking of ordering heres the deal.
Old version of cream is at TIA in the combo
New versino of cream is in the combo at Cellvitals.
you chooose |
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