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Thu Jan 12, 2006 4:05 am |
Hi
Have been reading about this new cream that's supposed to be fab for your skin and anti-aging, 'Prevage' (made by the Elizabeth Arden co). Now it's hit the UK (only in Harrods) have been doing a bit of research but I can't find out what's in it. Does anyone know it's ingredients and if it's been tested on animals? I'm guessing it has been because if it hadn't it would he hugely publicised.
Anyone know what's in it and does it work?
thanks in advance
Sarah |
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Thu Jan 12, 2006 6:12 am |
Hi Sarah,
I started PrevageMD on Jan.1 at the recommendation of my derm. The first week I used it every other night and now I am using it nightly. It is touted as a great antioxidant and perhaps even better than Vit. C (so the peer reviewed journals state). It is manufactured by Allergan--same makers as Botox. If you go to their website you will find alot of info and I believe pictures. The active ingredient is "Idebenone" and has a 1% concentration in the MD formula and .05% in the department store formula. I believe all research was complied using the .05%. Supposedly this cream/gel is great for fine line reduction, evening skintone and hyperpigmentation. It's to soon to tell for me as I have used it for only a short while. I have reactive/slightly dry skin (winter only) and hate say it, but I'm experience miner breakouts with this product. My feeling is that it's from all the silicones. I'm hoping my skin will adjust and counteracting the breakouts with a BP cream. If you do a board search you will find some other posts and also CareKate I believe uses this product with much success. Hope I've helped answer your questions! |
_________________ Early 40's, normal/dry, Oily T zone (summer) fine lines, hyperpigmentation |
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Thu Jan 12, 2006 7:45 am |
Hi
Thanks for the reply. Can you tell me what the ingredients are please?
Thanks
Sarah |
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Thu Jan 12, 2006 7:52 am |
There have been lots and lots of posts and threads on Prevage. If you use the search function, you can read alllllllll about it without having everyone repeat their for and and against experience. |
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Thu Jan 12, 2006 7:54 am |
Hi
Thanks I have read the reviews. I don't actually want to know what it does, I have done the research, I just want to know what's in it, which I cannot seem to find out on-line.
Anyone know?
Cheers |
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Thu Jan 12, 2006 1:29 pm |
Sarah,
Try emailing Allergan for a complete ingredient listing. Another options is to try and find a local dermatologist office and ask them to make a copy of the packgage insert and mail/fax it to you. Is there a particular ingredient your allergic to?? The listing is long and at the moment I don't have the time to type it out. If the above suggestions don't work, I'll try and type it out for you. |
_________________ Early 40's, normal/dry, Oily T zone (summer) fine lines, hyperpigmentation |
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Thu Jan 12, 2006 1:37 pm |
Here's the ingredients and usage instructions:
Ingredients:
Purified water (aqua), glycerin, cetyl ricinoleate, isohexadecane, ceresin, glyceryl stearate, water (and) titanium dioxide (C177891) (and) propylene glycol (and) styrene acrylates copolymer (and) hydrolyzed corn starch (and) ammonium hydroxide (and) phenoxyethanol (and) methylparaben (and) ethyl-paraben (and) butylparaben (and) propylparaben, isopropyl lauroyl sarcosinate, sericin, hydroxydecyl ubiquinone (idebenone), sodium PCA, steareth-2, PEG-60 hydrogenated castor oil, PEG-100 stearate, glycosaminoglycans, linoleic acid (and) linolenic acid (and) tocopherol, millet (panicum miliaceum) extract, cholesterol, ceramide III, dimethicone, PEG-50 dipolyhydroxystearate, magnesium aluminum silicate, xanthan gum, cetyl hydroxy-ethylcellulose, disodium EDTA, BHT, diazolidinyl urea, methylparaben, propylparaben.
Usage:
Dosing instructions: Push the pump down once or twice to dispense a pea-size amount. Thoroughly massage PREVAGE antioxidant cream into your clean, dry face and neck 2 times daily, or as instructed by your physician, Using in combination with other products: PREVAGE™ antioxidant cream is compatible with other products such as moisturizers, retinoids, or any other products you may be using. Be sure to apply PREVAGE directly after cleansing your skin and before any other products.
Even though PREVAGE antioxidant cream protects your skin against environmental stresses, it should not be used as a substitute for sunscreen. You should always use a sunscreen with a minimum of SPF 15 every day.
HTH's!
-Cheri |
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Thu Jan 12, 2006 4:15 pm |
Hi
Thanks very much for the info, hope you didn't have to type it all out?
No wonder so many people have had allergic reactions when it's so full of chemicals, I wouldn't put that on a rat let alone my face.
Thanks again, muchly appreciated.
Sarah |
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trishjarrett
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Thu Jan 12, 2006 4:39 pm |
I've been using the same ingredient (idbenone) in my skincare that's in prevage. I got it from skinactives.com. It's just been about a week, but I'll keep ya'all posted just the same. |
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Thu Jan 12, 2006 9:04 pm |
sarahb wrote: |
Hi
Thanks very much for the info, hope you didn't have to type it all out?
No wonder so many people have had allergic reactions when it's so full of chemicals, I wouldn't put that on a rat let alone my face.
Thanks again, muchly appreciated.
Sarah |
I didn't have to type it all out. Google did it all for me.
I know some of the ingredients sound so chemical, but alot are actually used in many cosmetics and are either natural extracts or emulsifiers. I was curious and looked up some of the ingredient names and was surprised to find the same in organic and natural skin care (Earth Science and Dr. Hauschka to name a couple).
You can read a bit about Allergan's animal testing policies here:
http://www.allergan.com/site/about/animal_response.asp
-Cheri |
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Fri Jan 13, 2006 3:45 am |
Hi
It was the amount of possibly carcinogenic parabens and urea that put me off, not even mentioning the many other chemicals listed too.
Sarah |
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Fri Jan 13, 2006 4:43 am |
Wow! I am shocked at how high on the ingredient list the chemical preservatives are! This product has more parabens in it than actives! |
_________________ Pure Skin Formulations, LLC | http://www.psfskincare.com |
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Fri Jan 13, 2006 1:31 pm |
Hi Sarah,
I am still really new to all this stuff and was wondering if you could help explain what carcinogenic parabens are and how I can read up on them, learn to spot them, and understand why I don't want to put them on my face.
I know I can google all this stuff but you may have links already saved that could help in my search plus I like to hear opinions from this forum.
Also, what are emulsifiers?
Thanks!! |
_________________ Moderately fair, dry, prone to break outs on chin, sun damage, 30s. |
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Fri Jan 13, 2006 3:10 pm |
trishjarrett wrote: |
I've been using the same ingredient (idbenone) in my skincare that's in prevage. I got it from skinactives.com. It's just been about a week, but I'll keep ya'all posted just the same. |
What do you mix it with? This is way cheaper than buying Prevage, but I'm wondering how you keep it fresh-since we're not adding preservatives here. |
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Fri Jan 13, 2006 3:18 pm |
Not to start a debate here, but parabens are very useful in proper concentrations. I would rather a product contain preservatives than not. I trust Allergan in that they are following standards and not placing too high an amount of the different parabens in this product. All of this is just my two cents. I'm not a purist by any means, so the chemical ingredients do not bother me. Of course I too would like to see less parabens and something other than diazolidinyl urea, but nonetheless I'm ok with it for a trial bases. For long term use I would have to see "great results". Again too soon for me to tell. I hate the mini breakouts though!!
*edited to remove and change content. |
_________________ Early 40's, normal/dry, Oily T zone (summer) fine lines, hyperpigmentation |
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Fri Jan 13, 2006 4:08 pm |
I've said it before, but I'll say it again -- Prevage didn't do anything good for my skin. Wanting to find feedback about it is what led me to this forum in the first place! I didn't like the sticky feel of it and it clogged my pores, causing acne (which I rarely get). But some others seem to like it.
I like other Allergan products, including Botox and MD Forte skincare, but this one was a disappointment. Like Lifeplyr01, I'm not a chemophobe (afterall, arsenic and cyanide are "natural") and the ingredient list didn't bother me. Prevage just didn't deliver any noticeable improvement in the look of my skin! |
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Fri Jan 13, 2006 9:22 pm |
m.April, I'm with you on the pore clogging bit. In fact I told myself that if tomorrow I wake up with ANOTHER small zit, I'm returning the Prevage!
I got to thinking about all the parabens in the ingredient list posted above. I didn't recall the new reformulated version having the parabens so high up on the ingredient list. So I pulled mine out and sure enough it is different. The listing of ingredients for the "new" reformulated MD version is: (she stretches her fingers),
water,cyclopentasiloxone,dimethicone/vinyl dimethicone,crosspolymer,pentylene glycol,peg-8,glycerin,phospholipids,isopropyl lauroyl sarcosinate,algae extract,ammonium acryloyldimethyl taurate/vp copolymer,hydroxdecyl ubiquinone,camellia sinensis leaf extract,sodium hyaluronate,ppg-2 isoceteth-20 acetate,propylene glycol, sodium pca, trehalose,urea,polyphosphorylcholine glycol acrylate,deoxyarbutin,ammonium acryloyldimethyltaurate/beheneth-25, methacrylate crossploymer,caprylyl/capryl glucoside,sodium acrylate/acryloyldimethyl taurate copolymer,polyquarternium-51,polyisobutene,butylene glycol,sodium hydoxide,dimethylmethoxy chromanol,mica,benzoic acid,methylparaben,phenoxyethanol,proplyparaben,sorbic acid,chlorphenesin,red 4,titanium dioxide PHEWWWW
At least the parabens are at the bottom and it's the good kind of urea (water retaining). But hey I'm looking for results! Hope this helps. |
_________________ Early 40's, normal/dry, Oily T zone (summer) fine lines, hyperpigmentation |
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Fri Jan 13, 2006 9:34 pm |
You know, katee likes Prevage and has had success with it. I wonder if, since she faithfully uses ISC Active Serum which I think contains BHA, it's drying enough to counteract the characteristics of Prevage that I don't like. This could be key. |
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Sat Jan 14, 2006 7:23 am |
Does katee use IS Clinical Active Serum faithfully?????? Ahhhhh come on....katee is an IS Clinical fanatic
I apply Active Serum every night and have since about February. I used to follow it with HydraCool but lately I've been using Active Serum followed by the Firming Complex and I'm really loving it.
I had stopped using Prevage for a little while and, as I've said before, after a couple of weeks with Prevage OUT of my routine, my skin just didn't look quite as good, so I started using it again.
An awful lot of people I know have tried Prevage and been terribly disappointed with the results. I like it, although I can't put my finger on exactly what it does. My skin just looks healthier with it than it does without it. With that said, I think Allergan's original claims that this product was the best thing since white bread just don't hold. The results are noticeable, but in no way dramatic... |
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Fri Jan 20, 2006 6:48 am |
Well I'm over Prevage. The whiteheads/bumps were occuring faster every day. No it wasn't a reaction, but nonetheless not nice to look at. I returned it to the derms office and darn if they only would give me account credit.
Thought for sure they said I could get my $$ back. Oh well guess I'll use it towards getting my spider veins taken care of on my legs. Goodbye Prevage Uggh. |
_________________ Early 40's, normal/dry, Oily T zone (summer) fine lines, hyperpigmentation |
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Fri Jan 20, 2006 12:06 pm |
Totally hyped product from Allergan trying to ride on their Botox coat-tails success. C is a better antioxidant and doesn't cause all the weird reactions that it seems so many people have when using Prevage. PLUS, the cost is absolutely ridiculous. And the nice orange tint - that's a keeper, eh? |
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Fri Jan 20, 2006 5:14 pm |
Yes I have and did not notice anything. I think Vivier vit. C was more noticable even though it took at least three weeks to notice some changes. |
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