Big difference with and without makeup?
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free skin care · Wed Jan 25, 2006 5:03 pm

I'm sure many of you wear makeup most days. It can be a full makeup or just some lipgloss and concealer. But does any of you notice much difference in yourself with and without makeup? Or does anyone else notice anything at all? cuz sometimes, u might think that u look better with makeup but to others, it might be just the same when you're without. And what about if u have to stay overnight with ur bf? What do u girls usually do cuz u don't want to look bad when u don't have your makeup on? For me, my eye circles are quite dark without concealer as well as my pimple marks. I also need to dust some powder to even out my skintone as well as lipgloss to add color to my lips. But it would be strange to wear makeup and go to sleep...anyways, sorry for those questions, but I just want to know what do u girls usually do to make urself look nice before going to bed and after u woke up cuz i don't wanna scare the heck out of my bf..haha Thank you so much!! Very Happy

free skin care · Thu Jan 26, 2006 2:18 am

For me the days of applying make-up first thing before my SO rises out of bed in the morning are long gone but he seems happy enough with the smelly, grouchy little monster he wakes up next to Very Happy

As long as I get up first and bring him a nice hot beverage in bed I could have 3 heads and he would be content!!

For the dark circles drinking lots of water and taking some supplements to boost your system as well as cutting back on the caffiene and refined foods and most importantly alcohol would help a lot.
I also found that by following the Dr Hauschka regime my complexion actually does look good first thing in the morning.

If I feel the need to moisturise at night then a few drops of Jojoba Oil or a little of the Rejuvenating mask normally works.

As for wearing make-up all the time, I have noticed I and other people look better on the 'less in more' approach. I only wear foundation now for when I am going on a night out.
A bit of concealer, blush, eye liner and mascara is all I wear during the day.
I think males also prefer the more natural look.
I guess it is all down to whatever makes you feel more confident.

Thu Jan 26, 2006 4:31 am

I also follow the "less is more" approach and usually just opt for tinted moisturiser (if that), maybe some concealer if I had a late night. There are three things that I almost always do before going to work nowadays, and if I don't do them I often get asked if I'm tired or if I lost weight.

1. Use a bit of blush (I'm super pale and look healthier when I look like I have some blood circulation in my face)

2. Use lip gloss (because I like it and it also seems to wake up my face)

3. Curl my lashes - it opens up the eyes and makes me look less tired.

And, like in rosebud's case, my "makeup applying purely for the benefit of my other half" days are also over for quite some time now. However, I always find that simply washing your face in the morning with a warm face washer can make you look miles better.

free skin care · Thu Jan 26, 2006 8:49 am

I agree with rosebud - the Dr H routine definitely helps my skin look better in the morning. I usually wear minimal makeup anyway - just some mascara and lipstick, if anything. You're so young you shouldn't be so worried about these things! Believe me - guys don't notice much, I doubt your boyfriend will notice a slightly uneven skintone.

free skin care · Thu Jan 26, 2006 12:26 pm

i have rosacea redness so i always apply my MMU everyday no matter what...after that makeup is optional although most of the time i'll add some mascara. Other than that, my eyemakeup and other stuff is very natural/neutral looking so i'm not sure it makes much difference whether i wear it or not....

free skin care · Thu Jan 26, 2006 1:18 pm

If you are very concerned with this. I think the safest way to wear makeup to bed would be to wear mineral makeup like jane iredale. I know my facialist once told me that it was ok to wear to bed. Also for your lips, the lip fusion colored lip gloss plumpers not only plump up your lips but they keep your lips moist for hours. I put mine on before I sleep so that I wake up with beautiful lips. And keep a lavendar hydrosol bottle in you bag next to the bed to spray on your face when you wake up. You will look like a million bucks. You can even just mix some lavendar eo with some distilled water if you cant get a hold of the hydrosol. My 2 cents Cool

free skin care · Thu Jan 26, 2006 1:24 pm

Hi Stardustdy!

I totally understand how you feel and I spent most of my dating life running for the bathroom to put on contacts (heaven forbid anyone see my coke-bottle glasses), doing my hair, and putting on some make up! Then, the funniest thing happened. My friend came to visit one weekend and since I had known him for a couple of years and I did not think I would ever date him, I did not worry about all those things. I wore my glasses and did not bother with any make-up…I think I even just threw on jeans and a casual top. Well, we have been happily married for 2 ½ years now and we dated for 1 ½ years after that weekend he came to visit! So, IMO the person you want to marry and spend the rest of your days with should be someone that loves seeing you in the morning when you are a “smelly, grouchy little monster” (love that Rosebud. Me too!!) and then seeing you all dressed up looking your best!

That being said, I do know how you feel! I am also in the opinion that less is best. Some days I do not wear make up to work because….well, I stare at a computer all day so I just figure no one really cares….but when I do put something on it is just cover-up under the eyes, light layer of power, mascara, blush, and lip gloss. Wow, it actually seems like a lot!!

Best wishes for you and the BF!!!

free skin care · Thu Jan 26, 2006 1:36 pm

This is a good topic. I totally agree the less is more approach to applying makeup.

My eyebrows and lashes are so blonde, it doesn't look like I have any, except back in the days when I was ignorant to the effects of the sun and had a tan. Then my brows and lashes were white. Without a touch of brow powder and mascara, I look 12. (a life-long personal irratation of mine)
My husband and I have been married for 22 years, and he still says I look just as great without makeup as I do with it. (Such a sweetie...I'm very blessed. I married an older man, who is aging fabulously and looks 10 years younger than his real age! One of the reasons I'm obessed with my skin....I don't want to "age" more than him! Is that neurotic?)

So, when I'm not at work, it's very little makeup for me, but I still spend as much time applying my skincare products! For work, I do feel the need to be more polished. And I spend time applying makeup so that it looks natural....a little brown liner in the top lashes, a neutral eye shadow, and a bit of my fav Stila cream blush. I'm out in front of clients, meeting new people every day. Some of my Fortune 500 clients hire image consultants to meet their own high-level employees as a mandatory requirement when they're hired.

It's sad but true....when I feel more "put together," I have more self-confidence when presenting, pursuading and negotiating. Hmmmm....is it potentially possible to write off skincare products and makeup on taxes as a business expense??? Laughing

free skin care · Thu Jan 26, 2006 1:41 pm

Shelley01 wrote:

Hi Stardustdy!

So, IMO the person you want to marry and spend the rest of your days with should be someone that loves seeing you in the morning when you are a “smelly, grouchy little monster” (love that Rosebud. Me too!!) and then seeing you all dressed up looking your best!

Yes I definitly agree with you on that one. When I first met my husband I didn't see him as a potential mate in the least, so I never went out of my to try and look good when I saw him. (I worked with him) But then one day it all changed and I suddenly found him irresistable. I started wearing make up to work, and doing my hair really nice. Then I noticed that I didn't get the attention from him that I used to. And it dawned on me "could it be that this man is more attracted to me without makeup?". Well he was, and that made me even more head over heels. And the rest is history my friend. But I still love make up, and all the good stuff that makes ME feel pretty, and it's nice to do these things for fun and not feel obligated into wearing it for someone else.

free skin care · Thu Jan 26, 2006 2:38 pm

Madeline: your story made me smile! Love when that happens.

And totally agree with you on doing things, such as putting on makeup, that makes me feel good. I am totally a "girlie-girl" so on the weekends when we go out I wear make-up.....just started to play around with grey and black eye-shadow...does anyone have any tips (sorry to change subject) on how to apply so as to make the eyes look smoky but not scary? Remember Jessica Simpson when she goes crazy with the black...not looking for that...softer.

free skin care · Thu Jan 26, 2006 2:39 pm

I agree with less is better. I'm sure that if your BF loves you, he loves you no matter how you look like. Yes, we all want to look our best, that is why one of my friends doesn't go to bed without mascara, and lipgloss. I think this is very sad... May be it would be a good test for BF, to see you without make up. Do you want to spend your life with someone who doesn't accept you for who you are? I think we all want to find someone who will don't mind if you did your hair and so on... just sometimes... when we are don't feel like doing it... Ideally, yes we have to do everything to look our best, but...we also want to have a home stress-free. How can you be stress-free if you worry about your make up? And what about those days when you are sick, or have a cold? No matter how much make up you put on, you not going to look as good as you want. If you put make up do it for yourself, not your BF!
Good luck Smile

Thu Jan 26, 2006 3:41 pm

I'm facing a similar problem since i've been hiding under makeup for so long and i feel hideous without it, but now that im going to college soon and will have a roommate and early classes and such, i can't really hide anymore, so here's a few things i plan on trying:

-i want to tint my albino-like lashes with the 1000 hour recommended here
-i've been using and alpha hydroxy lotion to fade scars & freckles
-i bought a microdermabrasion kit to soften and even out my skin, maybe help with the scars and freckles too
-i use the aspirin mask every other day & it seems to shrink my pores & fade reddish scars
-make sure i drink lots of water & eat right/take vitamins and it is helping my skin overall and my circles too
-im trying different eye creams to help fade my dark circles
-i sleep with a plumping lip gloss on so that my lips look good when i wake up
-i want to try HA supplements to plump my lips more
-make sure to wear sunscreen everyday to prevent further damage
-i apply a gradual sunless tanner to my face regulary so i don't look so freakishly pale when i wake up

So once my skin is a little more even, and i have my eyelashes tinted, i think i will feel more confident to go bare-faced, the sunless tanner and lip plumpers are already helping, maybe you could try something like that

free skin care · Thu Jan 26, 2006 4:12 pm

OMG Mildlyobsessive!!

I understand wanting to look, feel, and do your best but GirlFriend!! You are young! college is going to be great! Please, promise me to have fun, don't stress, and hit the books hard! I bet you are beautiful.....and if you don't mind I would like to give you a some words of wisdom a good girlfriend, who was 10 years older than I was, gave me:

You are beautiful now and you don’t realize it but you should not beat yourself up and not enjoy yourself because in a few, or maybe, several years from now you are going to look at pictures of yourself and think, “God, I was so good looking, I was so young! I was so thin!! Why didn’t I enjoy it? Why didn’t I spend my time flirting, having fun, and not stressing so much?"

If only we could all get back those moments!! I love my life now….but every once and a while I remember being 18 and I get a bit melancholy.

Good luck with college!!

free skin care · Thu Jan 26, 2006 4:46 pm

I notice a difference when i wear makeup. Just gives that extra glow that somedays my skin does not have.

I carry with me, sample of eye makeup remover and my night creams, lash curler, lip gloss, and a pale pink shadow that i will highlight around my eyes. bring tooth brush and paste (brush my lips too). If i look pale, i will pinch my cheeks... And i will pull my hair back to aviod the stuck finger in a socket look in the morning. This is if i know i will be staying out somewheres... I dont always carry all this stuff.

free skin care · Thu Jan 26, 2006 5:42 pm

Shelley01--you are so right when you say looking back at pictures of when you were younger and thinking, only then, that you were good-looking! I'm in my early 40's now, but I remember when I was in my 20's being afraid I was going to scare the heck out of my bf the first time he woke up next to me. And I never wore much makeup, just never thought I looked good, particularly first thing in the morning! Back then, it was the 80's and people used to tell me I looked like the lead singer of the band The Bangles...don't remember her name and I thought they were crazy..but looking back at pics now, I think I really did look pretty good and wished I spent less time worrying that I wasn't pretty enough! I guess alot of self-acceptance comes with age and why they say youth is wasted on the young!

Fri Jan 27, 2006 11:42 am

Yeah, I struggle with accepting myself as "beautiful", though I'm told constantly that I do with and without makeup.

It's hard! I used to hate the way my eyes were, they kind of droop and I was putting on so much waterproof mascara that my poor eyelashes were rotting away. I inherited *slight* undereye circles as well, and when I don't get enough time to tan in the summer, they look awful. I hated the fact that my mom was so "beautiful" with her almond eyes and no undereye circles, and I had inherited these dominant traits from my father who is darker than me, making his circles barely noticeable. Plus he's a male, so his eyes don't look odd or anything.

I'm beginning to learn to accept it. I've stopped wearing a ton of mascara, causing me to realize what long, lush eyelashes I have...which have also shown me that my eyes are beautiful. They have a sparkle to them. I figure now that if I try to get into the habit of wearing less makeup, then maybe my natural beauty (though I thought I was severely ugly) will shine through.

And recently (I know I'm only 15 and kind of young, but...) I've gotten into a relationship with a wonderful guy, though he lives far away, so we've promised to date after we graduate (aww, he even bought me a promise ring. I nearly choked on tears.) I decided that if he says he loves me so much, then he must love me with or without makeup. And when I showed him myself without makeup, he said I was still beautiful and always will be---that's what you want in a guy! He says that I am beautiful for who I am, inside and out.
waaah. I love him so much. Crying or Very sad

I've had a few guys ask me out over my highschool years, but I don't think they'd ever accept me for just who I am! (Plus they were jerks...perverts...blech...)

You need someone to understand every aspect and love everything about you...even the imperfections.

Embrace yourself for who you are!
My theory now is that everyone has natural beauty in some feature of their face.

Don't hide it!

free skin care · Sat Jan 28, 2006 3:45 am

This all brought a smile to my face too! I have always been a "cant go out the front door" without makeup type...ever since mid/late teens and can't imagine life any different! Shock

Shelley's story rang so true with me .... I remember the day after I got married more than 22 years ago...my hubby had not seen me without makeup before we got married ( was he in for a shock!) That morning ( we were going to the Airport off on our honeymoon) I can still remember the sheer panic of trying to get my face on REALLLLLY quickly before he finished in the shower, so he wouldnt see me! Looking back... how ridiculous is that!? Very shortly after I was coming down the hallway and hadnt gotten my "face on" and he looked at me from the kitchen and broke into a big smile... which made me say "What!!!??" and of course I realised it was a whole new thing for him.... he said at the time... it was like 2 me's ...one like that and the other like he normally saw me and that they were both as beautiful ( bless his little diplomatic heart).
Of course I thought ... SUREEEEEEEEEEE.. Rolling Eyes

Now of course..after many years and a son who is going to be 21 tomorrow actually ( big party too...getting excited and worn out organising it)..... I dont give a damn who sees me at home and can't believe I was so silly! We actually knew each other really, really well before we married...hehe...just always in the war paint! Very Happy

free skin care · Sat Jan 28, 2006 9:19 am

I grew up in the middle of nowhere, and it was my dad that raised me until I was 12. Then, I came to live with mom here in the city. The first thing she did was taught me to put makeup on. And I do mean every kind of makeup--foundation, powder, eyeliner, mascara, 3 shades of eyeshadow at once, and blush. I looked like Mimi from the Drew Carey show. But she thought that's the way I should look. Once I came to visit her at work without any MU on, and she said " you shouldn't go out of the house without MU on". That hurt me so badly. It is now 21 years later and I am just beginning to be able to go to the grocery store without any on if I choose. My daughter is now nearing 12 and she has been interested in MU for a bit now. But I always tell her how beautiful she is, with or without makeup. With my first marriage (to the kids' dad) I put makeup on before even my AM coffee. Now, with my new hubbie I don't even worry about it. He always said to me--you don't even need that stuff and I don't even know why you bother! LOL...It's weird how other people put ideas into our heads, negative or positive....
Oh BTW....I wish my mom had taught me about skin care instead of MU!!!!!!!!! Embarassed

free skin care · Sat Jan 28, 2006 4:00 pm

Thanks everyone for sharing your stories! I can't believe how many replies there were!! Very Happy

Well, I did took many of your advices saying that if your bf loves you, then he should love everything about you, no matter if they're good or bad. I slept over at my bf's place last night and I didn't really put on any makeup, just some moisturizing lipgloss. He didn't say anything when he looks at me but I don't usually put much makeup on anyways, just some concealer to cover my marks. And the most funniest thing is, he's afraid that I think he looks horrible when he has no hair gel on and when he wakes up first thing in the morning too. I guess sometimes guys will worry how we think of them too. So we shouldn't spend so much time worrying about how they think of us =) Laughing

free skin care · Sat Jan 28, 2006 6:33 pm

I usually wear eye make-up because I have been told that I have long lashes and some say I have nice eye colour.

Now, I am going through a stage that I am leaving the house with out make-up but in the car, I end up putting a light touch of lip pencil and Rosebud Lip Salve.

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