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Tue Dec 20, 2005 8:55 am |
I am prone to milia and lately I have about 20 on my face! They are driving me nuts and the other night I did pick...now I look like I have chicken pox. I'm not sure what I'm using that is causing this so I am going back to the basics....proactive and cetephil.
1. Has anyone noticed Dr. H products causing milia? Rose Day cream or toner or cleansing cream?
2. Has anyone noticed the OCM causing milia?
3. Has anyone noticed Jojoba oil (used as moisturize) causing this?
4. Anyone prone to milia...can you share what products trigger outbreaks so I can stay away.
5. Last time this happened my dermo suggested microderm abrasion...I went a couple of times but didnt notice much of a difference...does anyone use this method to control milia?
I thought I was doing so good by using these natural products but my face looks terrible (i know I shouldnt have picked so I do accept some of the blame). I have used the oil of olay micro/resurf kit but I thought it was helping.... |
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Tue Dec 20, 2005 11:13 am |
I don't think that the microdermabrasion will rid the milia. I think a microdermabrasion followed by a laser facial is the way to secure long-term, if not permanent, results. |
_________________ 36, skin in a "new" phase? Oil/break-out free but now having bouts of sensitivity and surface dehydration. |
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Tue Dec 20, 2005 11:19 am |
my mom is a lot like you with all the milia. Her dermatologist said they can laser them..and that's the only way he claims you can get rid of them.
Try not to pick..my mom has gotten a lot of pot holes in her face from picking at them.
I've gotten the occassional one and I use a sterilized needle to prick it, then I lightly scape the goop out with my nail, and immediately put on neosporin.
You might want to try the asprin mask too. Some people have had results from it. Unfortunately not my mom |
_________________ Combination - dehyrdated, acne, sensitive, late 20's. |
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Tue Dec 20, 2005 1:22 pm |
Olivia-
I am also prone to milia and it irritates me to death! It's not good to pick because they are so resilent to it and leave red patches when I do so. The milia is due to use of too heavy products under the eye in most cases and there are a few products out there that help. I liked MD Formulations Vit A Eye Cream, you have to be proactive in applying it daily.
The asprin mask didn't really help for me. |
_________________ Usually normal skin, can get dry due to eczema, prone to freckles. Mid 20's. |
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Wed Dec 21, 2005 1:11 pm |
Thank you all for the feedback. I am a product junkie but have been pretty loyal to the Dr.H line of products (OCM too!) so I'm not sure exactly what product is doing it. I am cutting them all out and using only cetephil and proactive until it clears up. I am trying so hard not to pick because I already have a scar from one that I just couldnt leave alone. They are mostly on my cheeks....rarely on my eyes so it must be one of my creams. Ugh! I'll check out that MD formulations eyecream anyway...i'm on the hunt for a good one. Thanks. |
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Wed Dec 21, 2005 3:18 pm |
Milia will not go away without manual extraction. They form when dead skin grows over the pore and the pores become clogged with oil. An opening has to be made in the pore before it can be extracted. If you've never done this, then you should got to a derm where they will use electrodessication to remove them. |
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Wed Dec 21, 2005 5:08 pm |
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Milia will not go away without manual extraction. They form when dead skin grows over the pore and the pores become clogged with oil. An opening has to be made in the pore before it can be extracted. |
This is what I've always been told too, that they come from products that are too rich.
They are also impossible to squeeze out - they are hard little white spheres with no redness around them (picture below).
[img]http://www.dartmouth.edu/~thabif/weeklyclinic102802/pictures/07milia1028.jpg [/img]
If the white spheres are viscous and can be removed by just squeezing, I think those are just a form of acne.
My anestitican used to extract them by making a minute incision with a scapel and they would come right out without all the redness from squeezing. Also, a small, fine scapel cut is going to heal much faster and with much less scaring then you would think. My little incisions would usually gone the next day.
I have done my own milia extractions but never in the orbital area and using a fresh disposible scapel each time but you really need a steady hand. |
_________________ fair-skinned redhead with sensitive skin, moderate Erythematotelangiectatic Rosacea, and sun damage - Early 40s. |
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Wed Dec 21, 2005 5:45 pm |
I have had my dermatologist extract them before...it was quick and painless and they were healed the next day....I just keep getting them so I dont want to go every week. I have extracted them by poking them with a needle and then pressing....I just get carried away somethimes and then I get a big red mark. Where do you find disposable scapels? |
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Wed Jan 18, 2006 5:10 pm |
Sorry I took so long to get back to you. I had a long lovely vacation over the holidays
I got my scapels from where I work. I wonder if you could find a medical supply house near you that sells them.
I'd certainly suggest going the extra mile to use scapels instead a pin since you have to use extra force on the skin with the small puncture opening. |
_________________ fair-skinned redhead with sensitive skin, moderate Erythematotelangiectatic Rosacea, and sun damage - Early 40s. |
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Fri Jan 20, 2006 3:16 am |
I have found that products with AHAs work well to remove millia. After some days of spot treating, the millia soften up and you can gently coax them out (or they disappear). You might find that you peel slightly where the millia is (assuming that you spot treat) - I guess this also makes it easier for the millia to come out.
I have not had any problems with Dr Hauschka products but I cannot use the Rose Day Cream because it'd be too rich for me. I have also used different oil cleansers and have not had any problems either. |
_________________ 45, NW20, combination skin |
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Thu Jan 26, 2006 4:12 pm |
Sorry, I can not find the original post but it's milia related.
Somebody had a post here some where mentioned her dermatologist told her to use DHS clear shampoo to solve the milia problem and it worked for her in 2 weeks. I've been faithfully using it washing my whole face for 3 weeks now. (I have about 7 to 10 very small milias all over my face) and the result is................................
IT DID NOT WORK FOR ME!!! All of them are still there, same size!! |
_________________ 53, DermaQuest, NCN Products, PMD, Dermarolling |
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Thu Jan 26, 2006 4:59 pm |
Estheticians usually use lancets to help with extracting milia. This varies by state because not all states allow estheticians to use lancets. Lancets can be found usually at your local drugstore in the diabetic area. Diabetics use these to prick their finger to check blood sugar levels. Medical supply catalogues/stores may sell them as well. Hope this helps and please be careful if you choose to use these. |
_________________ Early 40's, normal/dry, Oily T zone (summer) fine lines, hyperpigmentation |
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