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Tue Mar 07, 2006 1:19 am  |
Hi girls...
As I was looking at my face in the mirror just now, I noticed that I have some dry patches on my face. The patches also looks like thickened skin.
I am worried it is eczema, but .... it does not itch.
Hm... I am worried.... I am gonna see the derm asap, but it is prob not til a couple of days from tomorrow (got to see my doctor first and get a referral, etc). til then, can any of you tell me what may cause this?. could it be i use too much castor oil percentage in my OCM..... or could it be my MMU containing bismuth???
oh... i am so confused... Any insight will be greatly appreciated.  |
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Tue Mar 07, 2006 5:22 am |
I don't think it would be the bismuth if you've been using your MMU for a while now. My bismuth reaction was within a few hours... and it was more rash-like... little bumps of irritation, not dry patches. I wonder if my reaction was typical?
I don't use OCM, but that might be the cause if there's no other possible culprit.
My only other thought is a drastic weather change or change in your water... i.e. the horrendous water in most hotels that feels like chlorinated pool water?
When I had dry patches on my hands this winter, I had immediate relief from a hand cream that contained lavender.
Hopefully, someone here can give you a quick fix until you see the doctor. In the meantime, I would just moisturize liberally on those areas.
Please let us know your progress. |
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36, skin in a "new" phase? Oil/break-out free but now having bouts of sensitivity and surface dehydration. |
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Tue Mar 07, 2006 6:24 am |
Hi Roadtonowhere,
Sorry you've got this problem.
This isn't a reaction to OCM that I've heard of before, or had happen to me ... but that doesn't mean that it isn't the culprit.
I've never used MMU with bismuth ... so I can't comment there.
It sounds like it could be eczema or psoriasis ... but it's odd that it doesn't itch.
What I would suggest is to stop using OCM for a day or two. Cleanse in the most gentle way possible, and see if it clears up. If it does, then it could be the OCM ... although it could also be that it needed a couple of days to clear up.
Have you been under any unusual stress lately? I ask because my father got a similar "thing" on his face whenever the stress of his job was greater than normal. The doctors never could put a name to it ... but that was the only thing they could come up with.
Also, if it's been colder outside lately, it could be that it's drier than usual in your house ... which can also result in this sort of thing.
What else have you been putting on your face lately? What type of moisturizer? Any new masks or treatments? Could there be a hormonal component to this?
These things are so annoying ... and often very difficult to pinpoint. However, if I suspect a reaction to something ... I simply back away from everything for a bit ... and re-introduce stuff one at a time ... slowly ... to see if the condition reappears.
HTH
Mary |
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Tue Mar 07, 2006 9:03 am |
hi girls... thanks for the reply. if it is an allergic reaction, is it possible that it is in the same spot everytime?
Now I remeber having a bump where one of the dry paches are a couple of months ago. And I thought it was a pimple.
Also, does anyone know if LandB's reaction to bismuth is typical? I would like to think it is the bismuth that cause this, since I love what OCM does to my face(so far). I ususally use my MMU that is bismuth-free, but this particular one that has bismuth (also has spf), I only use it every once in a while whenever I think I need sun protection. |
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Tue Mar 07, 2006 12:01 pm |
Hi roadtonowhere,
I just read recently (wish I could remember where) that itching is the telltale sign that helps doctors diagnose a dermitis as eczema as opposed to the many other things it could be, so it doesn't sound like it is eczema because the itch would be driving you crazy by now. |
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Tue Mar 07, 2006 1:34 pm |
Hi again Roadtonowhere,
You don't have to use your bismuth brand to get sun protection. Mineral Makeups usually contain titanium dioxide and zinc oxide ... both of which are sunscreens.
As far as I know, most mineral makeups have an SPF of approximately 15 per layer. Because of the nature of mineral makeup, and it's "blocking" attributes, when you put on additional layers, you're increasing the SPF.
Most don't advertise it, probably because of FDA regulations or labelling technicalities etc ... but as far as I know, all mineral makeups are sunblocks as well.
This is just one more reason why MMU is, in my humble opinion, better than other sorts. I think it's important to protect your skin from the sun ... every day. If you spend a lot of time out in the sun, you may want to use additional sun block ... but MMU at least gives you some protection.
Mary |
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Tue Mar 07, 2006 7:19 pm |
hi mary..... yeah, thats what i heard about MMU, but the reason why I used the advertised spf MMU was because I went skiing that day, And I feel more comfy using the advertised one (sort of a guarantee that my skin will be shielded by sunsreen)
but yeah, about the dry patches, I will be seeing a doctor tomorrow.
Also, do you know whether it is too harsh to use OCM twice/day?
thanks for the reply guys.... |
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Tue Mar 07, 2006 9:41 pm |
| Maybe just windburn from skiing?.... |
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Wed Mar 08, 2006 2:59 am |
| Dry patches are caused by either reactions to products that are either irritating (causing the skin to become red or inflamed), or too drying for the skin, or from the environment such as heat, wind, cold, etc. (extreme temps). My aunt had this happen to her because she didn't exfoliate her skin, if your skin does not feel dry all over, and you aren't using products that are drying to the skin, you might need to exfoliate with an AHA. If the products you are using don't leave your skin feeling tight and dry all over, you might just need to exfoliate the dead skin off, but the best thing is to see a derm to rule out any allergic reactions. It might be that you are over-doing it with a product that is just too drying for you skin. |
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Wed Mar 08, 2006 6:04 am |
Hi Roadtonowhere,
I have used OCM twice a day since August of last year. I can't imagine using any other cleanser at this point! 
Now, that said, jehjahlu has a good point about exfoliation. I exfoliate almost daily ... because I use Retin-A at night ... which helps to exfoliate, thus encouraging cell turnover, thus increasing collagen production.
I have also added salicylic acid to my OCM mixture ... which also encourages a superficial peel of any dead/loose skin ... and helps with all the things that Retin-A does ... a nice compliment.
My skin seems to tolerate salicylic acid well ... but that's not the case for everyone. My girlfriend can't tolerate it nearly as well, so adding it to OCM isn't something I would recommend unless you know that you can tolerate it.
However, I do think that exfolilation becomes more important as you age, because your body's cell turnover rate becomes sluggish as you age. The closer you can get to encouraging a youthful cell turnover rate the better.
There are lots of great masks that encourage exfoliation ... the aspirin mask being top on my list. It's cheap ... it's effective ... and it's safe providing you don't have an allergy to aspirin.
I've totally backed away from scrub type exfoliating products ... but that's just a personal preference. I feel that they do more damage to my skin. [There's no scientific basis for my thinking that, by the way. ]
However, a good exfoliation once a week is probably a terrific idea for everyone ... that and making sure you protect your skin from the sun and any nasty pollution that might be in the air.
HTH
Mary |
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Wed Mar 08, 2006 10:21 am |
hi guys....
thank you for the reply. I exfoliate twice a week with dr brandt microdermabrasion. i also get professional peel/facial once a month. Do you think I should go to facial more often? I avoid using any type of homemade chemical peel because I am kinda scared..... 
<sigh> i am so tempted to put petroleum jelly on the dry patch but i am afraid I will breakout....
hpjrt: do you use OCM twice, in the morning and in the evening? the day I discovered my dry patches, I used OCM twice, once around 6 pm and once around midnight. could it be because the interval between then is too short?
hm.... i am seeing the doctor today, we'll see what she has to say |
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Wed Mar 08, 2006 10:24 am |
ooh... forgot to ask something.
hpjrt, jehjahlu: any suggestion on good (natural brand) exfoliating mask?
thanks.... |
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Wed Mar 08, 2006 10:50 am |
I actually use a lot of natural ingerdients to gently exfoliate my skin, like using whole fat milk powder with a little bit of coconut oil, which seems to work ok, and some crushed oatmeal powder also helps to slough of dead skin. I like to put on some retinol cream once a week, Skinceuticals is my favorite retinol, and then put emu oil over the top of it, or a heavy moisturizer, so that way the retinol helps exfoliate while the cream helps along with the process by loosening and softening the dead skin cells so that when I wash with the milk/oatmeal and coconut mix, it sloughs off without pulling the skin. The moister you keep your skin, such as using emu oil and my new favorite, some Balmex zinc cream mixed with emu oil , the easier time the dead skin and dry patches will be able to slough off.  |
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Wed Mar 08, 2006 11:10 am |
whole fat milk powder?
hm... can i use it with olive oil or grapeseed oil instead of coconut oil? |
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Fri Mar 10, 2006 5:53 pm |
so... i went to the derm today...
and he said my rash might have started out as pimples, but then it got some sort of infection. He said it is superficial(you really cannot see it, unless you are like 2 inches from my face).
so, it got me thinking... what can cause this infection?
I came to the conclusion that yes... this happened because I always touch my pimples.....
no more I am gonna touch any pimples whatsoever....
read this girls.... DO NOT TOUCH your pimples.....
anyways.... the derm gave me this oinment. Lets see if this oinment works. |
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Fri Mar 17, 2006 1:19 pm |
| Absolutely, I started using olive oil this week with the milk powder and mixing it with water as a cleanser and it seems to be more hydrating than the coconut oil, I also add a little bit of emu oil in it too, as well as a little bit of oatmeal powder with the milk. If you have oily skin, I would go with the grapeseed or emu oil. |
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Sun Mar 19, 2006 6:16 am |
I did not read this whole thread, but I wanted to say that maybe your dermo will give you prescription Vitamin A Acid cream. I fills out/smooth out your wrinkles and builds on collegon (sp?) and exfoliates your skin.
Moisterize with Cellex-C Sea Silk oil-free moisterizer because it does not irritate your skin (it has omega 3 in it) or if you don't want as much moisterizing, use Sonya Dakar Omega 3 oil and apply your own moisterizer. |
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