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Sat Mar 18, 2006 9:37 am  |
So I'm always tempted to buy the little trinkets at the register when checking out of a store, and recently did so at the Gap after a splurge on pants. I bought their Favorite Lip Balm SPF 18 in Citrus Frost and it's horrendous! Not like any of the rest of you would be tempted to buy a cosmetic product in a clothing store... but in case you are like me and do such crazy things, DON'T!
It reminds me of Carmex (banned at one point, I think, by the FDA for addictive properties). It provides instant moisturizing relief, then wears away quickly and leaves you craving more... then more... then more... until you realize that it's actually DRYING OUT your lips, not keeping them protected. I had to exfoliate my lips one morning, in fact, this week because they were so cracked. Didn't put the connection together until now.
I'm gonna keep the little tube in my purse anyway... so that I NEVER buy a lip balm with too many of the same ingredients. They're so many ingredients, however, who the heck could figure out which one.
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Sat Mar 18, 2006 7:00 pm |
[quote="LandB"]Carmex (banned at one point, I think, by the FDA for addictive properties). [/quote]
WOW how van you just say that for a product?
Is that really so? Banned by the Fda?? |
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Sat Mar 18, 2006 9:00 pm |
Hi atalbest. Not sure I understand your question but wanted to reply.
I had a Carmex * spam alert * in college and when I tried to get a fix at the local drugstore one day, the clerk told me it had been pulled from the shelves and they were not allowed to sell it. I couldn't find it for a while thereafter and moved my * spam alert * over to Cherry Chapstick (then Vaseline, then Blistex, and so on and so on....) 
Carmex denies that it is addictive and many derms apparently agree. The lip balm * spam alert * is psychological, they say - it feels good so we apply more and more and more... and can't live without it.
Other derms contend that there is something to the * spam alert * theory - that lips become dependent on the product to keep themselves moist.
Common sense tells me that the salicyclic acid in Carmex could promote exfoliation, which would be good for restoring the lips, but it could also encourage drying if that's the way a person reacts to salicyclic acid. Maybe that's why Carmex is generally recommended for cold sores and not lip conditioning. I use salicylic acid to regulate my oily skin areas, so I sure AIN'T puttin' it on my lips to moisturize! |
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Sun Mar 19, 2006 3:17 am |
I'm not sure about it being banned by the FDA in the past (it is approved by the FDA), however, for a while now there has been talk of people being addicted to it or the possibility of * spam alert *. As LandB pointed out, this is generally a psychological * spam alert * where it tingles and makes your lips feel nice and fresh, so when it wears off (and it does quite quickly) you want to reapply. Now, there is defintiely some hisotry there because when you look at some online sites that sell carmex, they explicitly state that it contains no addictive ingredients (which is a strange statement to make for a lipbalm...).
Btw, have a look at the "Lipbalm Annonymous" site (people who are addicted to lipbalm and want to break free ) http://www.kevdo.com/lipbalm/ |
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Sun Mar 19, 2006 3:43 am |
Well suspecting it could be addicting becuase you want to apply it all the time is one thing, but writing down rumors about a product being banned by the FDA is a bit out of limits.
The reason I asked is because I think we should be a bit more careful. You dont have the right to claim such serious things that are not true. |
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Sun Mar 19, 2006 5:48 am |
Atalbest, sorry if I offended.
Let me clear the record - there's no doubt that Carmex is presently in compliance with the FDA, which they tell us at least 3 times on their website.
http://www.carma-labs.com/CarmaMyths.htm |
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Sun Mar 19, 2006 7:02 am |
Isn't Carmex meant to be for cold sores? Do they have two products?
I cannot understand why anyone would use a cold-sore ointment as a lip balm (other than if they had cold sores on their lips)... am I missing something? |
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Tue Mar 21, 2006 2:02 am |
| tiger_tim wrote: |
Isn't Carmex meant to be for cold sores? Do they have two products?
I cannot understand why anyone would use a cold-sore ointment as a lip balm (other than if they had cold sores on their lips)... am I missing something? |
I haven't seen a cold sore Carmex cream, I've only seen lip balms....  |
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Tue Mar 21, 2006 5:06 am |
| Mabsy wrote: |
| tiger_tim wrote: |
Isn't Carmex meant to be for cold sores? Do they have two products?
I cannot understand why anyone would use a cold-sore ointment as a lip balm (other than if they had cold sores on their lips)... am I missing something? |
I haven't seen a cold sore Carmex cream, I've only seen lip balms.... |
It used to come only in a little jar. Then they added a tube and a stick. The main ingredients are the same in all - menthol, camphor, salicylic acid, phenol and fragrance. The stick adds SPF. They market all of the products as cold sore treatments and anticeptics, but also as
having a "cooling effect" to "relieve rough, chapped lips." http://www.carma-labs.com/CarmaFAQs.htm |
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Fri Mar 24, 2006 2:47 pm |
| I use carmex everynight to keep my lips moist (and because of the salicylic acid for exfoliation). I have for years and don't feel 'dependent' on it any more than my Dr. Pepper lip smacker. Actually the lip smacker causes a rebound effect of dryness and the carmex doesn't (for me). Carmex does have some great ingredients for skin (lanolin and cocoa butter). Sorry, I am just a big carmex fan and had to put my 2 cents in! |
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Fri Mar 24, 2006 4:00 pm |
| Thank you for the informatiom! Very useful. |
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Wed Mar 29, 2006 7:44 pm |
| My favourite lip balm is Burts Bees. Not the new Honey lip balm. That one smells so foul. The original one and the lip glosses. So good. |
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Wed Mar 29, 2006 8:34 pm |
My favorite daily balm is Dr. Hauschka (either the pot or stick). It works well to keep a nice level of hydration, and my lips look pretty when I use it. However, if my lips are really dry as happens in the winter, I need something more.
I actually liked the Gap favorite lipbalm that I bought--I think it was vanilla, but what I use when I really need it is Aquaphor at night.
I just used the recipe for Avocado lip balm in the DIY thread, and I LOVE it. I used lavender and sweet orange as recommended, and I think it's great--though I might try cinammon oil or something else next time. |
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