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monamuk
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Joined: 28 Mar 2006
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Wed Mar 29, 2006 11:51 am |
hello,
I just started using Vivier Vit C Serum, both the ones for eyes and face, and have two questions:
1. Is it better to use in the AM or PM? I have been using in PM but do want to start Retin A and have heard Retin A is better in PM. Don't think I should be layering them as someone told me in a different post - that I should wait till vit c is fully absorbed (20 min) and I don't have that much time to go back and forth with my beauty routine
2. Do I have to purchase both the eye serum which is lower % and the face serum or can I start using the face serum on both my eye area and face after I run out of the eye serum?
Thanks in advance! |
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Wed Mar 29, 2006 12:03 pm |
I have always heard to use Vitamin C in the AM.
Lori |
_________________ Normal/Dry~slightly sensitive~usually clear~fine lines on forehead and neck~Age 36 |
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Wed Mar 29, 2006 12:32 pm |
I use Vit C at night....my skin needs the full effect. I have a tendency to correct makeup and think I wipe the Vit C off when I correct my MU application. |
_________________ 46 yrs old, I live at the beach and love being out in the sun. |
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Wed Mar 29, 2006 12:37 pm |
AMis better because it helps protect against damaging UVA/UVB rays. |
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Wed Mar 29, 2006 12:40 pm |
lithia wrote: |
AMis better because it helps protect against damaging UVA/UVB rays. |
but the effect is good for 3 days correct??? |
_________________ 46 yrs old, I live at the beach and love being out in the sun. |
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Wed Mar 29, 2006 1:15 pm |
I'm confused too. I thought we should use Vitamin C at AM but Re'Vive and MDSkincare suggested to use their Vit-C at night. |
_________________ 53, DermaQuest, NCN Products, PMD, Dermarolling |
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Wed Mar 29, 2006 1:30 pm |
I remember from past discussions that it doesn't really matter whether you put it on day or night, but most people seem to prefer to do it in the morning. |
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Wed Mar 29, 2006 1:30 pm |
I would use it in the AM because can benefit more from its sun protection. Its a great idea to use Vit-C in the morning and Retin-A at night. |
_________________ Simple but No Simplier...Approaching late 20s, Normal/Combination Skin, Rarely Breakout now but have some old acne marks, sunspots, & broken caps |
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Wed Mar 29, 2006 2:26 pm |
I was just reading about this on some Dermatologist site (looking up Retinol) and from what they said topical Vit C can be used anytime, it's just a matter of preference, as the effects will last up to 48 hrs. Retin A products on the other hand must be used at nite as they can cause photosensitivity and skin discolorations if used during the day, esp. in sunlight. It also said that retin a should not be used with other actives because it can lose its efficacy as it needs to absorb into the deeper epideral layers to work. Vit. C is an active. Hope this helps! |
_________________ 51 years old/brunette/normal- oily medium skin. |
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Wed Mar 29, 2006 2:30 pm |
Sportygirl is right. It really doesn't matter when you use vitamin C. HOWEVER, retin A, retinol, etc. - any product with heavy actives, should be used at night. Using Retin A in the morning is just insane. As it is, when you are using it, you have to really use a good sunscreen - even stronger than you might use otherwise - since it really increases your skin's sensitivity to the sun... |
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Wed Mar 29, 2006 5:32 pm |
katee wrote: |
Sportygirl is right. It really doesn't matter when you use vitamin C. HOWEVER, retin A, retinol, etc. - any product with heavy actives, should be used at night. Using Retin A in the morning is just insane. As it is, when you are using it, you have to really use a good sunscreen - even stronger than you might use otherwise - since it really increases your skin's sensitivity to the sun... |
this help!!!! Thanks!
Chrissie |
_________________ 46 yrs old, I live at the beach and love being out in the sun. |
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Wed Mar 29, 2006 6:38 pm |
I use Vit. C Serum in the morning. |
_________________ 56, Very Fair Skin, Oily with Mild Breakouts, Blonde, Blue Eyes, Irish/German Descent |
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Wed Mar 29, 2006 7:18 pm |
I use Cellex-C and I prefer using it at night. |
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Wed Mar 29, 2006 7:57 pm |
I use Vitamin C at night. |
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Thu Mar 30, 2006 9:17 am |
I use mine in the a.m. |
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Thu Mar 30, 2006 9:23 pm |
It should be used in the AM to reap the biggest benefits. C absorbs free radicals caused by exposure to UV light, cigarette smoke and other pollution. You are more likely to encounter these during the day than at night. Free radicals are unstable oxygen molecules that hook up with the giant collagen molecules in your skin to stabilize themselves. When they do that, they make your collagen layer become thin and brittle. Thus your skin loses firmness and elasticity prematurely. Sooooo, I'd use it every AM to stop this from happening.
If I didn't already use other stuff at night, I'd use it then, too. C is necessary for collagen synthesis. So night-time use would seem to be a good time for this to occur. (Totally unscientific statement there.
About the 48 hours - this is not correct. C stays present in your skin actually for 72 hours! BUT, the plasma level in your skin drops precipitously over the first 24 hours and only trace amounts are left at 72 hours. That's not enough protection for me so I use it every day. I also take internal antioxidants (C and E, Selenium)to up the antioxidant plasma levels in my skin to as high as they can get. |
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Thu Mar 30, 2006 9:32 pm |
As far as using the same serum for your face and eyes, that is totally an individual thing. I use IS Clinical proheal and I apply it under my eyes when I am applying it to my face. Some people who have more sensitive skin may need a lower % under their eyes. I would try it if I were you. Go slow. Start maybe every other day under eye application to make sure you don't have any adverse reaction. If you do notice extra dryness, you may need to use a lower % vit C. If you don't feel and dryness, then you should be fine. Just remember to go slow and don't rush it. |
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Thu Mar 30, 2006 10:57 pm |
I'v heard recently that you can't use toner right before Vitamin C b/c it can degrade it somehow.
Anyone hear this? I went through an entire bottle before I heard this.
Just in case I don't have toner in my AM regimen. |
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