SC CE Ferulic--should it be clear?
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free skin care · Wed Apr 12, 2006 6:52 pm

Hello,

I am new to this forum. I'm not sure why, but I suspect somehow that the samples of CE Ferulic that I purchased from a vendor on EBay are not actually full of this product. I have used many serums from SC and always the b5 gel, but in these little vials I just received, the liquid is a bit more viscous than usual and looks and smells exactly like the b5 gel--it is not watery and astringent like the other c serums I've used. Is the CE FErulic supposed to be clear, can anyone tell me? Maybe it is just super-fresh product, but maybe not!

Also, can someone give me an incontrovertible reason to switch to IS Clinical--what would replace the antioxidant and preventative power of CE Ferulic in the ISC line?

Thank you all immensely for your help!

Yours,
ava lange

free skin care · Wed Apr 12, 2006 9:49 pm

I tried a full size bottle it when SC first introduced CE Ferulic, and mine was pale yellow. It also was kind of oily and definitely not watery.

-Cheri

free skin care · Wed Apr 12, 2006 11:03 pm

Hi avalange - I use SC CE+Ferulic and the color starts out fairly clear (maybe with just a very very very slight tinge of yellow), then over time it turns yellow and then orange. To keep it from turning too fast, I've started storing it in the refrigerator. This seems to be helping!

The consistency is runny, but not watery, and certainly not astringent. It leaves an oily film on my skin, apparently due to the Vit.E. SC B-5 Gel seems at first sticky/oily on my skin but very quickly dries matte without leaving any film at all.

Before I switched to Ferulic, I used ISC Super Serum. The color was basically the same. It's a little bit less oily, though. But it first turned yellow, and finally orange about 2/3 of the way through the bottle, and I was using it quite liberally. I've been sticking with the Ferulic because of the claim of added photo-protection, but there's a lot of debate about topical Vit.C and which types are more stable, more effective, etc. I've been thinking of giving SkinMedica Vit.C Complex a try, but have decided to wait until next autumn because... I think it was marina who reported recently that a SC C+Ferulic serum is coming out soon, and that by eliminating Vit.E, it'll be less oily. I don't mind oiliness AT ALL in the winter, but I may try the new serum during the summer months.

I hope this helps answer your questions!!!

free skin care · Thu Apr 13, 2006 5:43 am

I use the SkinCeuticals CE Ferulic and the serum has always been a very pale yellow.

free skin care · Thu Apr 13, 2006 5:57 am

The SC + ferulic is already available at dermadoctor, along side the old versions so be careful & click on new arrivals-they're still carrying the old stock. SC will be replacing all serums with the new + ferulic version. I post this because there are a lot of people to like the 20% strong vit.c of SC & the addition of ferulic makes it even better for photo-protection. Stability is a whole other issue, but I found my sample of CE + ferulic took A LOT longer to change to even pale yellow. Again, I just didn't like the oily feel. Texture wise, ISC SS is wonderful for oily skin.Still want to try the pro-heal though.

free skin care · Thu Apr 13, 2006 8:07 am

Hi Marina - How was the result of SC CE Ferulic vs. ISC Super Serum? How quickly did the ISC SS change color, did it change much faster than Ferulic?

Thanks.

free skin care · Thu Apr 13, 2006 8:30 am

I also got some samples of this off of Ebay. My samples are all clear in color and are runny (not watery) but definitely thicker than say Skinceuticals serums (the 10, 15, or 20).
Hope that helps.

free skin care · Thu Apr 13, 2006 8:44 am

tidieu wrote:

Hi Marina - How was the result of SC CE Ferulic vs. ISC Super Serum? How quickly did the ISC SS change color, did it change much faster than Ferulic?

Thanks.

Hi Tidieu,

I only had a small sample of CE so as for results...it depends on what you're looking for. I love the texture of SS because I like watery serums & my skin is oily. Over the time I've been using SS, I have found my skin is clearer & pigmentation issues have improved. That being said, from all the research, SC & ferulic MAY provide better antioxidant protection-due entirely to the added ferulic. Some research also shows that vit e added to the mix is also helpful as antioxidant protection. That's where the IS pro-heal is great. It also helps c remain stable longer so,theoretically, pro-heal should be stable for a longer period of time. I haven't tried pro-heal, so maybe someone who's tried both pro-heal & SS can chime in.

I'm starting to ramble so let's see if I can make sense out of this. SC + ferulic should remain stable longer because of the E & ferulic. But, I don't like the texture & smell. I been having great results with SS but it does change color quicker. What I do is wrap the bottle in alumunum foil & this seems to help-my bottle is 2 months old & still clearish-slight light yellow tone.

Now because I have MAJOR melasma problems & summer is coming, I would like to try the new SC 20% with ferulic-no vit e. for antioxidant protection alone.Plus I love 20% serums. Otherwise, I'd apply prevage under my SS, but that's getting too $$$. I would certainly go back to ISC SS in the fall.

Either everything's clear as a bell or you're completely baffled. Rolling Eyes

Let me know which one. Very Happy

free skin care · Thu Apr 13, 2006 8:57 am

Hi, the full size bottle I have is a pale yellow. hths.

free skin care · Thu Apr 13, 2006 9:07 am

Hi Marina- It's clear enough. I understand what you are trying to say. Just one more question, do you also put it in the fridge with the aluminum wrapping?

Thanks again!

free skin care · Thu Apr 13, 2006 9:18 am

nope-no energy to run up & down stairs!!! Embarassed

free skin care · Thu Apr 13, 2006 10:38 am

marina wrote:

SC will be replacing all serums with the new + ferulic version. I post this because there are a lot of people to like the 20% strong vit.c of SC & the addition of ferulic makes it even better for photo-protection.

Hi Marina:

I am confused, so is SkinCeuticals making a different formula from the CE + Ferulic (15%)? I just ordered another bottle today (from DermaDoctor where I usually get it). So are you saying there is a CE + Ferulic (20%)? Thanks!

free skin care · Thu Apr 13, 2006 10:44 am

I can understand the confusion. The regular 20% & 15% (also the 10 I guess) will all have ferulic now-not vit. e. The Vit C +E & ferulic remains the same. They're just adding the ferulic to their regular C formulas. They are still selling both versions (till they run out). To get the new one from dermadoctor, click on new arrivals & scroll down.

To make a long ramble short (must be my migraine) -there is no CE ferulic 20%, there is a C + ferulic 20%.
whew! Rolling Eyes

free skin care · Thu Apr 13, 2006 10:48 am

Marina, thanks for the clarification.

Of course my next question would be I wonder if the C + Ferulic (20%) is better for the skin than the CE + Ferulic (15%)? What do you think, does the Vit. E play a significant role?

free skin care · Thu Apr 13, 2006 11:32 am

When I first started looking into C serums as antioxidants, I did learn the the C & E work very well together -E is in itself an antioxidant. Of course, having oily skin I couldn't use a serum with E-even today, my skin isn't as oily but I find the E makes the serum heavier somehow. If your skin can handle it, you're very lucky & I would definitely continue. What I'm looking into now (pray for samples) is the IS pro-heal with does have E & apparently has a pleasing texture. We'll see. As for %, I think the maximum skin can absorb is 17-20%. I don't think 5% either way is going to have much effect, esp. if it means giving up the added benefits of E & ferulic. Also, many people (except for tough mediterranean types like me Wink

find 20% irritating-not for sensitive skin.

Hope this helps-if not-keep 'em coming Very Happy

free skin care · Thu Apr 13, 2006 12:37 pm

Thanks Marina. I think I will stick with the CE + Ferulic (15%) for now. I am always looking for the new and improved "fountain of youth." he he he.

free skin care · Sat Apr 15, 2006 10:53 am

I got some samples of it from Ebay. My samples are all clear in color and are not watery but also not too thick.

free skin care · Tue Apr 18, 2006 9:49 pm

Update:

After a week of use, my little vial of CE FErulic turned light yellow, so I guess it really is the real thing, just an ultra fresh batch! And I performed an experiment that a wise commenter recommended here (where or who I don't remember), which was to cut an apple and apply C serum to one side in order to ascertain its effectivity, and guess what? After 12 hours, the apple is just about rotten, with the amazing exception of where I rubbed in the CE Ferulic (a brand new vial)! It is pure white!
Fabulous stuff--I'm *definitely* going to keep putting this on my face every day!

Best,
avalange

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