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Sat Feb 14, 2004 9:36 pm  |
It was a frustrating struggle learning to apply this stuff, but thanks to all the tips from EDS forum members, I found methods that worked for me: Start at the outside edge of the face and work towards the nose. Only apply a thin layer; wait a few minutes (while doing eyemakeup); then apply another layer. The flocked sponge works great and unlike brushes, doesn't annoy my sensitive skin.
JANE IREDALE'S AMAZING BASE (loose) gives the best coverage and the prettiest dewy look. The color matching was easy, and I got it right on the second try. (50/50 mixture of Amber and Warm Silk) Unfortunately I can't use this anymore because I'm one of those people whose dry skin looks incredibly greasy a couple hours after applying it. No breakouts though.
JANE IREDALE PRESSED FOUNDATION: The coverage on this one isn't as good, and it's more matte, so there's not much of a dewy look. I found this to be much easier to apply, whether I used a brush or a flocked sponge. (Probably because pressed powder makes it hard to pick up too much at once.) Unfortunately, even though it started out quite matte, I still got the mid-morning "greasy pizza" look.
COLORS OF PARADISE HAWAII: This loose powder has a finer/silkier texture, and color matching was easy because their website says which shades are comparable to JI and BE. This one goes on totally matte and never turned greasy. Because the ingredients are the same as the others except for Bismuth, I now know that's what caused the problem. (You were right, Thoughtcrime;))
AROMALEIGH: This one doesn't contain Bismuth either, but there are so many color choices, I never made it through the ordering process. And you have to buy two different kinds of powder and mix them to get the coverage you want. Their forum is filled with wanna-be users who buy lots of samples and still can't get it right, so I just gave up.
LA BELLA DONNA: This one's a winner for me. Last week I visited a salon that sold this line, and it was love at first sight. This is the only brand I've found that makes a pressed mineral compact without Bismuth. I like pressed because I travel a lot and loose powders can get really messy. There are enough colors to suit every skin tone, but not so many you get confused. Their loose powder is also good, about equal in texture and coverage to COPH. (And I just have to rave about the eyeshadows--the most beautiful pigment-saturated colors I've ever seen. If you like brown eyeshadow, "Brownie" and "Bronze" are to die for!) I found a problem with this line, though: Both the website and catalog color swatches are way off. I'm so lucky to have encountered a display!
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Sat Feb 14, 2004 11:30 pm |
Alohagirl, I've been wondering how la bella donna minerals are. I can't tell much from the website except that the packaging looks really classy and elegant. :P
Do you know what the ingredients are? |
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Sun Feb 15, 2004 6:06 am |
Hi Alohagirl,
Thanks for the very concise information on loose minerals and pressed powder foundations !
I've always been a lover of the fresh dewy finishes that liquid foundation gives me but have been reading up on the wonders of loose mineral foundation as well... I work well with brushes and I have a fair idea of how it's to be applied but I do have a question.... Is loose foundation meant to be applied to a relatively 'dry' face?? I am trying to envisage how this is possible when you think the toner, moisturizer, the sunblock....with these layers it would be impossible to apply mineral make-up no?? OR do you skip the sunblock altogether as the loose mineral has it built into the product?
Summertimegirl x |
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Sun Feb 15, 2004 8:04 am |
Hi, all:
I have a stupid question .. what do you all mean when you talk about the dewy look? I always have problem understanding the descriptive words in the cosmetics, like the matte, dewy, sheer, porcelain, etc. I mean I am not quite sure about the exact looks the words describe. I appreciate if anyone could give me some hints!
Thanks~ |
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Sun Feb 15, 2004 3:27 pm |
THOUGHTCRIME:
I also found the website to be vague and less than helpful. And you're right, the packaging is very classy and elegant. The pressed compact I bought is plastic but completely silver toned, and it's so flat it can easily slip into a pocket. But it contains more product (12.7 grams as opposed to Jane Iredale's 10 grams) I bought a lip gloss too, a beautiful red so sheer anyone could wear it, and its silver packaging is the classiest I've ever owned!
I only have the ingredients for the Bella Donna pressed m/u: Micronized Titanium Dioxide, Mica, Silica, Silicon Polymer, Vitamin E Acetate. May contain Iron Oxide and Blue Ultramarine.
SUMMERTIMEGIRL:
Powdered mineral makeup is like powdered eyeshadows and blushers. You must have a dry surface or they'll "grab" and apply unevenly. I find that some moisturizers dry faster than others, and some never really dry at all. Some mineral websites recommend using their "rice" powder or "cornstarch-based" mineral veil on top of the moisturizer to provide a dry surface before applying minerals.
As for sunblock, if I'm going to the beach or something, I'll use DDF physical sunblock. For everyday, I think the mineral makeup provides enough sunblock protection. (But I recently ordered an eyecream with SPF--just in case)
IZ:
"Dewy" means your skin appears moist and fresh, almost like freshly-washed skin. "Matte" means there is no shine or visible moisture at all. "Sheer" means the makeup provides only a little coverage so your actual skin is visible through it. I don't know what porcelain means.
--Alohagirl:P |
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Mon Feb 16, 2004 4:02 pm |
Hi Alohagirl,
Thank you for making that clearer for me  , you've demystified a lot of questions that I had !.... reading through the posts (where everyone is used to the sequence of minerals application) was a bit confusing-- intriguing ! but confusing for me. :P I was baffled as to how everyone applied powered minerals over their layers of moisturiser and sunblock:P The only moisturizers I've used in the past that absorbed rapidly were lotions, emulsion formulas so I might have to go light if I'm looking into wearing minerals.
Now I know what the Mineral Veil does-- it's like a 'blotter' that goes on top of your moisturiser before the mineral foundation !! Is that right.. ?? 
Iz,
You usually get the 'DEWY' finish with mostly liquid foundations. A 'MATTE' look can be achieved with matte finish liquid foundations, pressed compact foundations or by finishing with loose powder over your foundation. My fav thing to do is to get dewy cheeks, and less shine on the nose, forehead and chin so that's where my loose powder goes ! The 'SHEER' look uses liquid foundations that have less coverage, and I think this is where mineral foundations fits in, or where I'd like it to fit in ! This is when you want to show off your great skin underneath with just a hint of colour to even it out ....and PORCELAIN to me describes someone with a fine, clear, fair complexion-- maybe someone like our Mabsy ! I think that's because I've read Nicole Kidman's skin being described as porcelain.
Summertimegirl x |
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Mon Feb 16, 2004 4:17 pm |
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Originally posted by summertimegirl
Now I know what the Mineral Veil does-- it's like a 'blotter' that goes on top of your moisturiser before the mineral foundation !! Is that right.. ?? |
Summertimegirl,
Mostly the Mineral Veil is used as a finishing powder to lessen some of that mineral "glow" and provide a more matte finish. I've never tried it, but during my searches for application advice, I came across several recommendations to use it as a "primer" (over the moisturizer) before applying the minerals.
--Alohagirl:P |
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Mon Feb 16, 2004 5:44 pm |
Summertimegirl,
I use B.E. mineral veil over my foundation like a finishing powder. I am still using Paula Dorf perfect Glo, because thus far I haven't found any loose minerals that work with me. There are some mineral powders like Youngblood mineral rice powder that you put on before the loose foundation like a primer for canvas. |
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Mon Feb 16, 2004 5:45 pm |
Alohagirl,
thanks for the ingredients BTW |
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Mon Feb 16, 2004 9:18 pm |
hey, summertimegirl:
Thanks for your information. I have one more question, did you mean that you had different products putting on your face at one time? I cannot handle to do that, I know that some ppl like to use different shades at different regions of the face to contour, but I can never do that!! I just feel that ppl who can manage to do this are real experts!!! How can you practice that nothing go wrong? It's real difficult to get it fixed and balanced.. : ) Does it take a long time to make it? where you usually start?
Iz,
You usually get the 'DEWY' finish with mostly liquid foundations. A 'MATTE' look can be achieved with matte finish liquid foundations, pressed compact foundations or by finishing with loose powder over your foundation. My fav thing to do is to get dewy cheeks, and less shine on the nose, forehead and chin so that's where my loose powder goes ! The 'SHEER' look uses liquid foundations that have less coverage, and I think this is where mineral foundations fits in, or where I'd like it to fit in ! This is when you want to show off your great skin underneath with just a hint of colour to even it out ....and PORCELAIN to me describes someone with a fine, clear, fair complexion-- maybe someone like our Mabsy ! I think that's because I've read Nicole Kidman's skin being described as porcelain.
Summertimegirl x [/quote] |
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robinp
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Tue Feb 17, 2004 7:54 am |
LA BELLA DONNA: This one's a winner for me. Last week I visited a salon that sold this line, and it was love at first sight. This is the only brand I've found that makes a pressed mineral compact without Bismuth
Alohagirl, I visited the La Bella Donna website and Bismuth Oxychloride is listed as a key ingredient in the La Bella Donna products. Is there another pressed mineral compact made by LBD with no Bismuth? If Bismuth causes that oily look I definitely want to stay away from it because my face is a grease pit! Thanks!! |
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Tue Feb 17, 2004 1:18 pm |
Hi robinp,
I noticed Bismuth is listed on the website, but it doesn't say specifically which products contain it. Perhaps only the loose minerals have it?
It's not listed on the back of my compact (color "Umbria") and I know it's not in there because I don't get that greasy look two hours after applying.
I'm going to call the company soon to place an eyeshadow order. I'll ask about it then and let you know.
--Alohagirl:P |
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robinp
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Tue Feb 17, 2004 1:55 pm |
| Thanks, Aloha! Where did you find the product? I am in Florida and I called the company and was told that no retailers in FL carry it...I was so bummed! I'd really like to see the true colors and sample the pressed powder....if this is something that can curb the grease on my face they will have a client for life! Thanks again! |
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Wed Feb 18, 2004 3:49 pm |
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Originally posted by iz
.... I have one more question, did you mean that you had different products putting on your face at one time? I cannot handle to do that, I know that some ppl like to use different shades at different regions of the face to contour, but I can never do that!! I just feel that ppl who can manage to do this are real experts!!! How can you practice that nothing go wrong? It's real difficult to get it fixed and balanced.. : ) Does it take a long time to make it? where you usually start?
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Hello Iz,
I use my liquid foundation all over and then to keep the shine away, I just go over my forehead, nose and chin with a dusting of loose powder with a big powder brush. This gives me both the fresh, dewy look I want on my cheeks while the shine on my T-zone is taken care of....I don't like an all-over powdered look as this tends to 'flatten' my features. The secret is in getting the shade of your loose powder right. I make sure it matches my chest area and looks totally natural in natural light, so don't be afraid to ask for a mirror from the counter and go outside to check that it's the right colour. Artificial lighting inside shops aren't the best to judge under.
I haven't tried using contouring products, I know that they can be used to bring out your strongest features. I know that the Kevin Aucoin "Making Faces" make up book shows you how to do this, and I think he worked on his sister, who's the model in the photos. I really want to get my hands on that book as well, he was an amazingly gifted professional.
Summertimegirl x |
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Wed Feb 18, 2004 5:43 pm |
robinp,
I called Bella Donna today, and they confirmed that only the loose powder has Bismuth. The pressed version doesn't.
I found the display at a spa/salon on Maui. I found out that it's sold in Bergdorf-Goodman (spelling?) located in New York.
As for your comment about finding a product that can "curb the grease", I don't think mineral powders can actually do that. I have dry skin that only became greasy after using Bismuth. Perhaps you could post a question about which skincare products will help mattify your face?
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Thu Feb 19, 2004 10:45 am |
Hi, Summeritmegril:
I could never pick the right foundation color for myself, I dont know why .... it just doenst look matched with my skin color, even though I look it under the natural light.. I feel really frustrated to select the right color for myself.. and I cant do the mix and match thing : (
Some ppl say if you are unable to pick the right color b/w 2 or more, choose the lighter shade, I dont know, do you think this is ok? it's like a trail and error thing.
I also have the BE foundation arrived yesterday, but it was to my disappointment, I didnt feel that it looks good on me : ( I am not sure if it's my problem on the application technique or what, or it's the shades? I just keep dusting on layer by layer but it makes no difference at all, it doesnt give the look I expect .. it's really just like nothing .. but a little bit of shine that I dont really like !!
I am learning how to do the make up, I am really a beginer, but somehow, all those frustrations have really worn me out, I just think I am not suitable to do the make up at all !!!!! bare face would be a lot easier: ) Why ~~ I admire ppl who can do the make up in minutes! |
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